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One of them is Petras, the others are not, currently, the injured Nico Ragaini.

Keep that in mind when formulating your expectations for this season...........................just sayin.

Great for the future, sure. But if we suck on offense (again).....there's a very distinct reason why.
 
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EvilMonkeyInTheCloset said:
One of them is Petras, the others are not, currently, the injured Nico Ragaini.

Keep that in mind when formulating your expectations for this season...........................just sayin.

Great for the future, sure. But if we suck on offense (again).....there's a very distinct reason why.
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Isn’t that f’ing Natty to you? To me it is
 
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EvilMonkeyInTheCloset said:
One of them is Petras, the others are not, currently, the injured Nico Ragaini.

Keep that in mind when formulating your expectations for this season...........................just sayin.

Great for the future, sure. But if we suck on offense (again).....there's a very distinct reason why.
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If we suck on offense again (which is probably more likely than not), the distinct reason is the same as it was last year: the OL is not good, the running game isn’t producing, and Petras is being relied upon to move the chains on 3rd and long.

Iowa has running back depth and talent. The OL is supposed to be Kirk’s bread and butter and yet we’ve been talking about the OL woes for multiple years now. The bottom line is running the football is the only way Kirk’s offense can work. If Iowa can’t produce on the ground this season, there is no chance of Petras being able to make up for that deficiency. And if the ground game is in fact pedestrian yet again, then it just might be time for Kirk to step down.
 
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Iowa has running back depth and talent. The OL is supposed to be Kirk’s bread and butter and yet we’ve been talking about the OL woes for multiple years now. The bottom line is running the football is the only way Kirk’s offense can work. If Iowa can’t produce on the ground this season, there is no chance of Petras being able to make up for that deficiency. And if the ground game is in fact pedestrian yet again, then it just might be time for Kirk to step down.
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You had me until the end. :rolleyes:
 
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BlackNGoldBleeder said:
If we suck on offense again (which is probably more likely than not), the distinct reason is the same as it was last year: the OL is not good, the running game isn’t producing, and Petras is being relied upon to move the chains on 3rd and long.

Iowa has running back depth and talent. The OL is supposed to be Kirk’s bread and butter and yet we’ve been talking about the OL woes for multiple years now. The bottom line is running the football is the only way Kirk’s offense can work. If Iowa can’t produce on the ground this season, there is no chance of Petras being able to make up for that deficiency. And if the ground game is in fact pedestrian yet again, then it just might be time for Kirk to step down.
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Just out of curiosity, why is that always off the table? I’m not advocating for the man to get fired, but Kirk has been HC since I was in high school. I’m now 41.

At some point, Kirk is going to have to retire.
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Well, he's 63-25 in the last 7 years. Two 10 win seasons in the last 3, and it could very well have been three 10 win seasons in a row if not for Covid.

In the meantime, recruiting keeps improving. Defense and special teams have been exceptional.

Just speaking for myself, I am in no hurry to move to the next chapter in Iowa Football.
 
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BlackNGoldBleeder said:
Just out of curiosity, why is that always off the table? I’m not advocating for the man to get fired, but Kirk has been HC since I was in high school. I’m now 41.

At some point, Kirk is going to have to retire.
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Didn't Iowa just win the West last year?

If you want to know why that is off the table, go to an Iowa alumni/booster event next year, then stand up during the event and state that out loud. After you get booed loudly and rudely escorted from the room, come back and post about how great of an idea it is.

My point is that Kirk Ferentz is still wildly popular among fans and especially among the contributors to the program. Your opinion is not.
 
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EvilMonkeyInTheCloset said:
One of them is Petras, the others are not, currently, the injured Nico Ragaini.

Keep that in mind when formulating your expectations for this season...........................just sayin.

Great for the future, sure. But if we suck on offense (again).....there's a very distinct reason why.
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Yes, there is a very distinct reason why and it has little to do with age.
 
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BlackNGoldBleeder said:
If we suck on offense again (which is probably more likely than not), the distinct reason is the same as it was last year: the OL is not good, the running game isn’t producing, and Petras is being relied upon to move the chains on 3rd and long.

Iowa has running back depth and talent. The OL is supposed to be Kirk’s bread and butter and yet we’ve been talking about the OL woes for multiple years now. The bottom line is running the football is the only way Kirk’s offense can work. If Iowa can’t produce on the ground this season, there is no chance of Petras being able to make up for that deficiency. And if the ground game is in fact pedestrian yet again, then it just might be time for Kirk to step down.
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Who has been talking OL woes for several years? How long is several?
 
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I admit that my greatest frustration over the past few years is that our OL guru head coach has had a number of years where the OL was not good. You would think we wouldn't EVER have a year like last year that was truly "Linderbaum and pray for rain". And now this year no Linderbaum. Maybe Tim Polasek being gone may wind up being a good thing.. or not.. I do like our young talent at OL and hope they grow up fast. I guess we'll start to know in 51 hours.
 
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BBHawk said:
Didn't Iowa just win the West last year?

If you want to know why that is off the table, go to an Iowa alumni/booster event next year, then stand up during the event and state that out loud. After you get booed loudly and rudely escorted from the room, come back and post about how great of an idea it is.

My point is that Kirk Ferentz is still wildly popular among fans and especially among the contributors to the program. Your opinion is not.
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So you think a lot of Iowans are happy with the guy who has perpetuated a pathetic offense that's a national embarrassment? That sounds more like projecting your view.
 
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EvilMonkeyInTheCloset said:
One of them is Petras, the others are not, currently, the injured Nico Ragaini.

Keep that in mind when formulating your expectations for this season...........................just sayin.

Great for the future, sure. But if we suck on offense (again).....there's a very distinct reason why.
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To me, it matters more about the particular "brand of suck" that we observe this year.

At a bare minimum, it better be an improvement on last year's "brand of suck."

My hopes are that the OL can be a shade better in pass-pro ... but, at least, good maulers in the run-game.

I hope that Lachey can emerge this season as a better complement to LaPorta.

I hope that we have a RB who can flex out wide, and can be productive doing so ... thereby giving our O a little more flexibility. In past years, I know that Brian has used 2-RB looks with some frequency ... sometimes having the guy line up wide.

I hope that Alec Wick (or some walk-on) can author a positive story for the O ... perhaps performing his best emulation of Nick Easley or Riley McCarron. Walk-on WRs have had luck at Iowa in the past.

If Iowa's top RBs can average 5+ yards per carry ... that can be huge for this young offense!

And lastly, if Spencer can do a better job of flushing bad plays ... and continue to improve his "processing time" when going through his progressions. I think that we could see improvement in the passing game, just by seeing him make the necessary improvements.
 
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pistachio1999 said:
And some day we will all die and eventually the sun will expand and consume the Earth.
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That blows the mind of some ... them not realizing that our sun's natural progression will be to enter its red-giant phase. Fortunately, given the mass of the sun ... that is still likely well over a billion years in the future. We have more than enough opportunity to drive ourselves to extinction first!
 
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ghostOfHomer777 said:
That blows the mind of some ... them not realizing that our sun's natural progression will be to enter its red-giant phase. Fortunately, given the mass of the sun ... that is still likely well over a billion years in the future. We have more than enough opportunity to drive ourselves to extinction first!
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We will all be star dust again someday. We came from star dust and we will return to star dust.
 
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F5n5 said:
tbe future is now
keep in my mind Iowa's offense was the 2nd best in 2020 averaging over 30 points a game.
I see a return to a great offense.. coupled with a great defense...
its going to be a great season.

so get your jabs in now... you only have 2 days left.
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"Great" offense might be an exaggeration (and I'm a homer).

However, that said ... I don't think enough Iowa fans recognize how anomalous the '21 offense was. One data point does not a pattern make!

Our offense dynamic? NEVER! (under Ferentz)
However, it can be efficient and it can be effective.
 
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I do believe the average Iowa fan is completely fed up with the offensive woes. But I also think the average Iowa fan is in love with the D and S/T.

the average fan understands KF’s style of ball control, field position, and not taking a lot of risk. It’s worked marvelously for 23 years now.

should the offense drag down a top defense YET AGAIN, there will be angry voices for sure. I suspect if that happens, BF will make a move back to the NFL. Lavar will be told to pick his OC and KF will coach one more year while every insider already knows it is Lavar’s future team.
 
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Pepperman said:
I do believe the average Iowa fan is completely fed up with the offensive woes. But I also think the average Iowa fan is in love with the D and S/T.

the average fan understands KF’s style of ball control, field position, and not taking a lot of risk. It’s worked marvelously for 23 years now.

should the offense drag down a top defense YET AGAIN, there will be angry voices for sure. I suspect if that happens, BF will make a move back to the NFL. Lavar will be told to pick his OC and KF will coach one more year while every insider already knows it is Lavar’s future team.
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Agreed. Honestly I would sign up right now for 20 more years just like the last 20, warts and all. I just worry that the list of non-blue blood CFB programs that took a step back following coaching changes is a lot longer than the list of programs that didn’t skip a beat or improved. Off the top of my head I think of schools like Wisconsin (and Iowa for that matter after JHF) that didn’t skip a beat and schools like Virginia Tech, Kansas St, Colorado, Tennessee, Nebraska, and many others that stumbled badly when their iconic coaches retired. Obviously there is no way to know ahead of time and it’s all hypothetical but count me among the fans that isn’t looking forward to the day KF retires.
 
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Pepperman said:
I do believe the average Iowa fan is completely fed up with the offensive woes. But I also think the average Iowa fan is in love with the D and S/T.

the average fan understands KF’s style of ball control, field position, and not taking a lot of risk. It’s worked marvelously for 23 years now.

should the offense drag down a top defense YET AGAIN, there will be angry voices for sure. I suspect if that happens, BF will make a move back to the NFL. Lavar will be told to pick his OC and KF will coach one more year while every insider already knows it is Lavar’s future team.
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Hmmm, that's why the season sold out. So many fans just fed up with Kirk and his style.
 
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The offensive line is no doubt the biggest issue for this football team. The WR position will be fine. The guys that play just need to catch the balls that are thrown to them. We can work out of two and three TE sets and with Bruce leading the way...we should be ok against the first three or four teams we play.

I'm optimistic about the OL. Richmond and Colby are going to be really good this year. Both are around 310-315 now...I know their roster weight is 308, but I saw an interview with Richmond saying he was 315 and Colby was similar. If we throw in a few young guys (Elsbury, Dunker, Stephens)...now you are getting four additional guys in that same range. I know Jones at center is only around 285-290, but he's a freak athlete and he'll be fine playing at that weight.

Will there be growing pains these first four games? Sure...but I like the fact that we have a young nucleus of players that have tremendous upside. Next year...you add a dude who is already 6'8" 335lbs. The competition next year is going to be intense.

The reason I'm optimistic is that all these guys, or most, were highly recruited 4 star players. They should be ready to contribute and have success after two years in the program. The other thing is that these guys have natural size...which Iowa traditionally hasn't had. Iowa typically builds them over time. I like our chances to get back to being able to pound the rock in late game situations with this group. It's been awhile since we had that ability.
 
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Hawk_4shur said:
Well, he's 63-25 in the last 7 years. Two 10 win seasons in the last 3, and it could very well have been three 10 win seasons in a row if not for Covid.

In the meantime, recruiting keeps improving. Defense and special teams have been exceptional.

Just speaking for myself, I am in no hurry to move to the next chapter in Iowa Football.
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I respect that. I don’t think it’s something to take lightly. Yes, there have been upticks in recruiting, etc., but we still have a very incompetent offense. On top of that, over the last three seasons you have referenced, who has Iowa really beaten? I see a lot of wins over Indiana, Nebraska, Minnesota, Illinois, and directional schools.

Look, I get it. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side, and Iowa could easily end up in a Nebraska situation. Still, the conversation is inevitable.
 
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Didn't Iowa just win the West last year?

If you want to know why that is off the table, go to an Iowa alumni/booster event next year, then stand up during the event and state that out loud. After you get booed loudly and rudely escorted from the room, come back and post about how great of an idea it is.

My point is that Kirk Ferentz is still wildly popular among fans and especially among the contributors to the program. Your opinion is not.
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Cool. I’m not asking anyone to like my opinion. Again, I’m not saying he should definitely step down. It’s a hypothetical, and, again, a conversation that is inevitable.
 
This is IOWA football. Scholarship WR will be hurt or missing. A walk on WR will emerge to be surprisingly effective. Everyones favorite pure athlete will be in Kirks doghouse. The defense will be suffocating. The backup quarterback is everyones favorite. We will win 9 or 10 games and people will complain.
 
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Hmmm, that's why the season sold out. So many fans just fed up with Kirk and his style.
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No complaints about the overall product especially on D\ST, and the character level of our head coach is second to none. With that being said, my guess is 90% of our fan base would be ecstatic if there was an announcement tomorrow that kirk was going to hand the reigns completely over to a new offense coordinator. Not to make wholesale changes but someone that would make our offense more consistent.
 
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No complaints about the overall product especially on D\ST, and the character level of our head coach is second to none. With that being said, my guess is 90% of our fan base would be ecstatic if there was an announcement tomorrow that kirk was going to hand the reigns completely over to a new offense coordinator. Not to make wholesale changes but someone that would make our offense more consistent.
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If Kirk hands over the reins then the new coach will start his reign.
 
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