Honest Question: What's the Point of Bringing Back All our Studs on Defense?
- Thread starter IowasLaw
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I'm sure Covid Kim has some extra money stowed away to help us out.
Honest question, what's the point of your posts? I get it bad offense and good defense. And Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead. Try adding in something of value, like maybe Chryst or whoever can breathe life into the running game. This will help the passing game. But complaining about the same thing all the time grows tiring, like you not really understanding what "objective" means in half your posts.
If he is a lawyer his posts would indicate he would be a prosecutor. He defiantly is not a lawyer for the “defense” with this post.
So your strategy is to not have a potential top 3 defense in 2024?
We have good pieces returning on offense, and the portal will allow for more (spring) adds once the coordinator is named and in place.
Your thinking on this one is very scattered and there is a bitter tone to it in terms of the offense these past few years.
You were wrong in your November Nervous Nelly post that panicked about not having an OC in place by the portal opening and signing days, and you're wrong now.
Gotta move on Law.
It's difficult to even have a rational discussion with most mouth-breathing Hawk fans who take any observation or critique of their deity, Kirk Ferentz, as an assault against their online girlfriends.
As stated in the OP, Iowa already had a top 3 defense LAST YEAR. It was meaningless, as the team barely finished .500 in the Big 10 behind that defense. Sadly, games are not won or lost by defensive stats or number of guys placed in the NFL.
If you don't score points you aren't going to beat anyone halfway decent...or even Minnesota. That is not a difficult concept. It is also not even remotely controversial to believe Iowa should already have the new OC in place coaching up the underclassmen and recruiting key offensive pieces for next year's team.
It was "wrong" in November to panic about not having an OC in place by the portal opening? Did your drinkin buddies confirm this or is it so because you deem it so? Because last I checked Iowa has not signed a single transfer portal prospect on offense to help improve upon the nation's 130th rated offense. Plugging in a new offensive coordinator long after the season ends isn't going to magically solve things either...as the OL and WR groups have been poorly coached and poorly recruited for so long that they aren't suddenly going to become talented overnight.
Sticking your head in the sand and smugly feeling "Iowa did enough to improve the offense because Kirk is in charge" isn't going to improve the offense either.
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You do get that this is a moot point, because we don't have scholarship openings at the moment to bring transfers in, right?
I'm in the camp of believing that the coaching change/scheme will have a far greater impact - at least in the short term, than any infusion of talent. How much of struggles by receivers were due to poor passing concepts/play calls vs a talent deficit? would OL perform better if they were constantly blocking 9 man fronts?
I would argue the answer to both is yes.
Nothing proved the OP to be correct better than Iowa's bowl game performance vs. Tennessee. I don't care how good the defense is, you can't beat ANYONE when you don't score any points.
Iowa's ENTIRE offensive line needs to be replaced, as their only decent player, Feth (a grad transfer) is gone.
Iowa's ENTIRE WR corp needs to be replaced, as there may be 1 division 1 WR in the entire group of 8 scholarship players...and he came from the portal.
Have we seen enough to cut Hill loose and reserve his scholarship for some actual offensive talent?
Iowa's ENTIRE offensive line needs to be replaced, as their only decent player, Feth (a grad transfer) is gone.
Iowa's ENTIRE WR corp needs to be replaced, as there may be 1 division 1 WR in the entire group of 8 scholarship players...and he came from the portal.
Have we seen enough to cut Hill loose and reserve his scholarship for some actual offensive talent?
I 100% agree here. While the defense has been a top 10 unit now for awhile these last years of getting blown out by every ranked team we play tells us it’s time for not only a change in philosophy but talent. Unfortunately we probably have who we have for next year. We’ll see if the new coordinator changes scheme, play calling, etc. If not we’re just not good enough even with a healthy Cade, etc on offense. A complete overhaul is needed but how many 70 year old men can adapt to that?
Well, it looks like we have confirmation that we are getting nearly our entire defense back.
Given that we've made absolutely zero upgrades on offense (and no OC can come in and wave a magic wand to turn Iowa's OL, QBs, WRs, or RBs into all-Big 10 type players), what could possibly make anyone think that next year's team will be any different than this year's horribly unentertaining team?
The QBs are still going to be pressured, the RBs are still going to be met in the backfield when teams load the box, and the WRs still aren't D1 level play makers.
Thank goodness Kirk loaded up on 9 scholarship running backs (about the same number of scholarship DL on the roster)...there's definitely no need to bring in offensive playmakers from the portal when you have a great defense, right? "Complimentary football."
Given that we've made absolutely zero upgrades on offense (and no OC can come in and wave a magic wand to turn Iowa's OL, QBs, WRs, or RBs into all-Big 10 type players), what could possibly make anyone think that next year's team will be any different than this year's horribly unentertaining team?
The QBs are still going to be pressured, the RBs are still going to be met in the backfield when teams load the box, and the WRs still aren't D1 level play makers.
Thank goodness Kirk loaded up on 9 scholarship running backs (about the same number of scholarship DL on the roster)...there's definitely no need to bring in offensive playmakers from the portal when you have a great defense, right? "Complimentary football."
Well still fair to expect at least some players leave regardless since we’re over the scholarship limit, and who knows how many leave after spring ball.
Obviously we also need to wait and see on what changes the new OC makes as well.
Ah, the old "You know we won ten games" gambit! Like we shouldn't be concerned about the three, who beat us 92-0.
Honestly, I'd much rather watch USC football. No, they didn't win 10 games by limping over mighty Northwestern 10-7 and sneaking past powerhouse Nebraska 13-10.
Instead, USC won 8 games while scoring 56 points, 66 points, and 56 points in their first 3 games then put up 42 points while beating #11th ranked Arizona. They lost close games to Top 5 Oregon and Washington, but managed to score 42 and 27 points in the process.
I'm sorry, but Iowa's 10 wins were solely a product of the softest schedule in school history (had they played USC's schedule, Iowa likely would have won 6 games). Of Iowa's 10 wins, all were as poorly played by both teams and boring to watch as Big 10 football has been played.
Nothing changes next year without better offensive players.
Agree. Said in another post based on the 2024 schedule Iowa can absolutely repeat 2021 & 2023 performance of turn every game into garbage and rely on defense and punts
The toughest games will be same as the last five -10 years…..get blown out or feel helpless/hopeless once a team goes up one to two scores (depends on who’s on punt return or if defense that year are ball hawks)
Iowa needs to change their passing scheme badly. If we still see the same 3-8 yard out passes, then the offense is ****ed.
I think the running game improves immediately if Iowa can hit passes further than 5 yards and allows WR chance to YAC
The toughest games will be same as the last five -10 years…..get blown out or feel helpless/hopeless once a team goes up one to two scores (depends on who’s on punt return or if defense that year are ball hawks)
Iowa needs to change their passing scheme badly. If we still see the same 3-8 yard out passes, then the offense is ****ed.
I think the running game improves immediately if Iowa can hit passes further than 5 yards and allows WR chance to YAC
Some are placing quite a bit of faith in whoever the new OC is making dramatic improvements. I'm not one of them.
It's unwarranted speculation to think that Kirk will turn the offense over to a progressive, independent minded OC to do what he wants. More likely, it will be mostly the same stuff we've seen for the past decade with hopefully at least enough changes to make a difference and at least some recognizable in game adjustments.
The other big issue is that it's mostly the same players. Now, getting the injured TEs back is huge. Getting back a qb who was already hobbled and is now likely even more fragile is still a significant plus over what they had. But, it's an improvement with caveats and the very real potential to fall apart quickly. As for other important personnel, O-line > wrs, I don't think it's a valid assumption to say that they'll be better simply by being in the program longer. I might have a decade ago, but as it stands sticking around Iowa as an offensive lineman doesn't seem to result in improved play.
This translates to a low confidence level that the offense will have a monster turnaround in which they go from the worst to average. More likely they go from the worst to just bad (e.g. 95th). That's still a significant improvement. Still not enough to be competitive against top teams. But maybe enough that we can at least tell the difference watching.
It's unwarranted speculation to think that Kirk will turn the offense over to a progressive, independent minded OC to do what he wants. More likely, it will be mostly the same stuff we've seen for the past decade with hopefully at least enough changes to make a difference and at least some recognizable in game adjustments.
The other big issue is that it's mostly the same players. Now, getting the injured TEs back is huge. Getting back a qb who was already hobbled and is now likely even more fragile is still a significant plus over what they had. But, it's an improvement with caveats and the very real potential to fall apart quickly. As for other important personnel, O-line > wrs, I don't think it's a valid assumption to say that they'll be better simply by being in the program longer. I might have a decade ago, but as it stands sticking around Iowa as an offensive lineman doesn't seem to result in improved play.
This translates to a low confidence level that the offense will have a monster turnaround in which they go from the worst to average. More likely they go from the worst to just bad (e.g. 95th). That's still a significant improvement. Still not enough to be competitive against top teams. But maybe enough that we can at least tell the difference watching.
Good thing the OP doesn't claim to be a math teacher or actuary because he obviously really sucks at math.
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"As stated in the OP, Iowa already had a top 3 defense LAST YEAR. It was meaningless, as the team barely finished .500 in the Big 10 behind that defense."
7-2 Conference record is barely finishing .500? What the F?
2nd example
There are 85 scholarships to give. Iowa sits at something like 91 right now. You need at least 1 open scholarship to sign 1 player. You suck at math!
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Then your problem's solved, just watch USC football.
Is this moron serious? Honest question, cause when you come in hot criticizing someone’s intellect, you sure as hell better be right.
Iowa was 5-4 last year, with bad losses to Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska and even Illinois. Learn to count, watch some football, and shut your mouth.
Wow, thanks for the insight on the 85 scholarship rule that has been in existence for decades. News flash, and I’ll speak slowly for you, every football team in the country is over 85 scholarships right now and still signing guys from the portal. You don’t have to be at 85 scholarships until school starts in August, 8 months from now.
Any more brain busters, genius? @j0nnyhb_Prime
Ask law for his comments on whether LaPorta will make a good pro
Coming from the guy who created the thread titled "what's the point of bringing back all our studs on defense?"
Incredible self own.
Yeah I-mean if only that dumb opinion was proven when they go pro. Jfc get a clue.
People who think like this are what's wrong with sports these days. Absolutely disgusting take
Have to keep calling people out that call Nebraska a bad loss.
It's never a bad loss when you're forced to bring in your backup QB in the middle of the game.
LaPorta went down during the week. DeJean went down during the game. Fine. Every team has injuries.
But no injuries are the same as losing your QB during a game. An unrepped backup QB isn't even close to the same dynamic as starting a backup QB that's been practicing with the 1's all week. A guy enters in the middle of a game and it's quite common that the snap doesn't even get executed, for God's sake. You see fumbled snaps and false starts all the time.
When you call Nebraska a bad loss you lose all credibility. And it becomes clear your intent is to just be negative. Learn the game. Winning isn't easy. When a team does so for near the entirety of 20+ years, give that team some credit
Lets cut the schollies of our elite defensive players so we can suck equally on both sides of the ball.
I have to say, when I read Iowalaw's post they always leave me scratching my head.If we are not winning championships I'd rather have a few more losses and beat good teams
This guy's honest take is that losing to a 4-8 Nebraska team last year with a birth in the Big 10 title game on the line was NOT a bad loss, and he's willing to die on that cross? lol Dear lord, people.
That same Nebraska team even managed to lose to Georgia Southern, giving up 45 points...yet somehow they held Iowa to just 17 points!
But again, bringing things back to the OP...that Iowa team that lost to 4-8 Nebraska had one of the Top 3 defenses in all of college football, with 3 different first round draft picks in the starting lineup in addition to all-Americans Castro and Higgins as well.
But hey, blow your wad on having an elite defense and no offense and see where that gets you.
your posts are so bad generally that I didn’t think twice about you getting the big 10 record wrong for 2023 lol (I glossed over the “last year” meaning 2022, though last year was 2023 now that it is 2024, but I digress).
Your take on scholarships is still weak. Everyone knows Iowa wasn’t pursuing any transfers in this first cycle (until they knew what their current roster was doing). KF and staff have integrity, something you probably know little about. They aren’t going to run off guys on their roster. Try again.
Let me get this straight. You actually think that KF was going to tell all the defensive players off an another great defensive team (2023) that wanted to come back to forget it, we don’t need you? How long have you been watching Iowa football?
I would love to see how long you would last in coaching with your great ideas LOL, you are something else. Serious question, did you ever even play sports growing up? Do you understand anything about keeping a team together? Would love to hear your answers.
