The only saint I know I my life is my mom. She deserves everlasting forgiveness and life for what she has been through and fought through.
Much as she would disagree, I don’t, for a second, think god had anything to do with her godliness.
What was god purpose for creating humans?
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Much as she would disagree, I don’t, for a second, think god had anything to do with her godliness.
No. Robots don't get cancer at the age of 5. Robots don't get killed because the adults around them are arguing over which God is real. Robots don't kill for pleasure or treasure. Robots don't abuse altar boys.
Humans are definitely not robots, and if it is all according to God's plan, he's a pretty shitty planner.
Same here. I really feel bad for anyone that did not have a great mom. Dad's are great too. But mom's are the best. I married into a family with stepkids, and I knew I would be second fiddle to the kids. It totally makes sense to me.
God can make up for human suffering with an eternity of bliss...do the math, wouldn't that be more than fair?
It’s a philosophical thought exercise at this point.
“If it was gods plan”.
Today police used a siege ladder to break in to an Ivy League university. That’s part of gods plan right?
It all is.
So did all the Jewish people that died horrible deaths during the holocaust get an eternity of bliss or were they denied because they didn't accept Jesus as their savior?God can make up for human suffering with an eternity of bliss...do the math, wouldn't that be more than fair?
I’ve read plenty on Hitler. I agree with most of your assessment, but Hitler was not a full-fledged atheist. He was definitely not in favor any of the Abrahamic religions after being raised Catholic (IIRC), but he often invoked a belief in a higher being, publicly and privately, that favored the Aryan race and gave providence to him to create a master race that ruled the world.
So, no, he was not a born-again Christian, but he wasn’t a complete atheist either. Regardless, none of what Hitler did was in service to atheism.
This is from Nazi Germany expert Professor Richard Overy:
"I think there is no doubt that Hitler was an atheist in any meaningful sense of the term. His various references to God were rhetorical. His comments on religion make it evident that he was quite unable to take the claims of Christianity at face value. He had a moral sense, but it was the morality of racial survival - what was moral was what served the survival of the Volk."
Right, but the greater point is your claim that religion in a two-parent home would greatly remedy a lot of societal ills is not correct IMO.
It’s not up to you? You don’t choose your path?
You relinquish your free will?
Man. Make up your mind.
You have it or you don’t.
I'm asking what you believe. I thought in order to go to heaven, you have to ask for forgiveness for your sins and accept Jesus as your lord and savior. Does Catholic scripture say something different?
Ahhh, because I specifically was talking a truly spiritually led family. Hard to find.
I know there are historians who will claim Hitler was an atheist. There are also historians who will claim otherwise.
I agree with those who say it’s unclear what Hitler’s beliefs actually were, but I do reject the idea Hitler was an atheist. There is little doubt in my mind, based on Hitler’s own statements and those statements recorded by members of his inner circle, that Hitler believed his path was carved out by the Almighty with a destiny of world dominance and Aryan superiority.
I understand the distinction you are drawing. The same principles of love, encouragement, discipline, guidance, etc. can also be found in atheist homes. That’s what matters—not religion per se.
“A truly spiritually lead family”.
So just no one that is up to your standards. Good to know.
I, Personally, don’t think I uphold to your personal standards.
Apparently you must now hate me.
You are correct. It’s just, then Bible tells us how to live. Like a code for living a pleasing, fulfilling life that benefits your offspring and community. I enjoy your approach here Ragnar.
There's something called "invincible ignorance" which means people that don't know Jesus is the Messiah can be saved.
I hope all the Holocaust victims were saved.
I agree.
One can still believe in providence and the Almighty without believing in heaven or hell.
IMO, Hitler was not atheist.
I don’t hate you, and I’m sure you do your best with what you have. Bro, I don’t live up to my standards. It’s about trying to do better. I have a great great disdain for Islam, and it comes across here. I also have a great disdain for the Spanish Inquisition, the treatment of Native Americans, and the Salem witch trials. We are here on this earth, whether that is a benefit to others is up to us . Charity and government help should be given to those who help themselves and use that help to rise up. Those who waste charity and assistance have stolen from others who would have used it to better themselves and communities.
If you're offering me 2 in the bush vs the one life I know I have today, I'm going with one I'm sure of today, especially for my family.God can make up for human suffering with an eternity of bliss...do the math, wouldn't that be more than fair?
Interesting question. If your child had cancer and you were told that you could procure a life saving medicine for them, but that you would have to denounce your religion and it would cost you your soul, which option would you take?
I respect you, too.
FTR, I don’t claim to be 100% correct. I don’t think anyone can honestly claim to be 100% correct when it comes to this topic.
Again, I respect your views and have no issues with core Christian values of love, forgiveness, seeking a moral life, etc.
Interesting. How old are you?
I don't have any children so I'm going to pass on the question.
63. Why do you ask?Interesting. How old are you?
I don't have any children so I'm going to pass on the question.
Lots of atheists claim Hitler was Christian.
"The Führer is deeply religious, though completely anti-Christian. He views Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race. This can be seen in the similarity of their religious rites. Both (Judaism and Christianity) have no point of contact to the animal element, and thus, in the end they will be destroyed."
— Goebbels Diaries, 29 December 1939
Your statement would be true if He created us a mindless robots who were programmed to do exactly as He wanted. Instead, He gave us free will and we “chose” sin. We have created the mess we have.
Personally, I’m glad we don’t have a puppet master controlling our every move, but it comes with a downside of many people following their own “truth” and and doing what thou wilt.
My understanding is that God made Adam to tend his garden. But then things went sideways. Mistakes were made. There was a hard reset. And so it goes.
I lost my twin brother at age 20. My heart failed at age 59. I've thought about my own mortality for as long as I can remember. How old are you?
Just turned 41.
What do you think is the purpose to life? I've been pondering that qiestion for 20+ years.
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