I don’t agree with how the couple handled their guns, but they were on their property. In most of the USA, if you don’t want a gun in your face, don’t break down gates to enter someone’s private property. Pretty simple really.
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So, because you've decided these people were wealthy to the extreme? What's the criteria and can you share a chart?Not likely to happen. This is just getting started. This is what happens when wealth redistributes towards extreme concentration and consolidation. Every facet of the current unrest is rooted in this.
However deadly force can only be used when
Neither of which exists.
- Reasonable believe that the force is necessary for self-defense or defense of others (including unborn children) to prevent death, serious physical injury, or a forcible felony.
- The force is used against a person who unlawfully enters a dwelling, residence or vehicle.
Remember the claim was "Anders Walker, a constitutional law professor at St. Louis University, said that although it's "very dangerous" to engage protesters with guns, the homeowners broke no laws by brandishing or pointing weapons at them because Portland Place is a private street. He said they are legally protected by Missouri's Castle Doctrine, which allows people to use deadly force to defend private property."
But that link says they can use physical force but not deadly force to defend private property. Firing one of those guns would have been deadly force.
If the mob had started advancing on them they would have had all the right in the world to use deadly force.
If the mob had started advancing on them they would have had all the right in the world to use deadly force.
Which would give legal authority for the protesters to respond in kind.
Sweet. Where do you live? I’ll be over with about 500 people tonight, some armed, and have a protest in your back yard while you’re eating then. I’m sure you won’t mind or feel threatened.Guess we'll find out when it hits the courts...
But, yes, people do it on University property all the time.
Which would give legal authority for the protesters to respond in kind.
Which would give legal authority for the protesters to respond in kind.
Maybe, depends upon if they had reason to believe the mob was going to hurt them. I would in general say if the entire mob advanced than yes. But they didn't.
But again why bring the guns into it. Conceal one on your person and inform them that this is a private road and if they don't leave you will have to call police. Or quite frankly if it's a mob I would just stay in my home and call police. Keep my life and other's lives in the place where I can exercise the most control over the situation.
Maybe, depends upon if they had reason to believe the mob was going to hurt them. I would in general say if the entire mob advanced than yes. But they didn't.
But again why bring the guns into it. Conceal one on your person and inform them that this is a private road and if they don't leave you will have to call police. Or quite frankly if it's a mob I would just stay in my home and call police. Keep my life and other's lives in the place where I can exercise the most control over the situation.
The couple didn't bring guns into it...the protestors did.
People are scared because these terrorists continue to destroy property and in Seattle shooting at lord knows who in Chop. So instilling terror would be what they are dong.
Again, link showing the conservatives doing this.
The left is the one fueling this, not the right.
Boogaloo Bois & Proud Boys say hello you hypocrite.
Their left wing what?So you are going to continue to support the domestic terrorists as long as their left wing?
So you are going to continue to support the domestic terrorists as long as their left wing?
It's intellectually lazy to claim I said that, if not an outright lie. It should be expected from someone who ignores true domestic terrorists and tries to paint fringe protesters who damage property in the same light.Sure sure. Burning buildings and stealing from people are ok?
I was pretty clear there are domestic terrorists on both sides. Unlike the lefties.
These are left wing domestic terrorists plain and simple. Do what we say or we destroy.
Lol. Come on, Goldie. I'm speaking to the larger context of everything that is going on. We've gone down a bad path over the last forty or fifty years. And now we're starting to see the comeuppance, so to speak.So, because you've decided these people were wealthy to the extreme? What's the criteria and can you share a chart?
I hope all those property owners who are told the cops don't need to protect their property send their tax bills unpaid back to city hall with a big FU city hall...Considering that the brandishing of a lethal weapon is an implicit threat to take another person's life I would say the only good reasons are defense of lives. Not property.
Gated communities...don’t they have their standing armies to protect them?Oh no! She's doing it wrong...good thing! I wouldn't know that because I don't own a gun...
Interesting that the fact that these people crashed the gate to get in and were trespassing is ignored. Given recent events I can't imagine why they felt the need to be pro-active in defending their property.
Do you think it's okay for the mayor to read the names and addresses of protesters out loud on a live Facebook feed? Do you think those protesters might receive threats of their own from those against their cause?
No charges filed.I hope those homeowners get what is coming to them. You don't recklessly point a weapon at unarmed people.
Lot of people know who they are and where they live now.
So, because you've decided these people were wealthy to the extreme? What's the criteria and can you share a chart?
I'll always support peaceful protesters, and always will. I do not support riots, looting and vandalism. Quit co-mingling and equating the spectrum of behaviors. The vast majority of the St. Louis group yesterday didn't riot, loot or vandalize property so quit acting like they did.
I even support having rich, cow-like women to stand on their lawn holding a pistol like they do their husband's perpetually limp and shriveled penis. And if she hurts or kills someone with her horrendous gun skills, I also support throwing her enormous ass into a very wide jail cell.
It's intellectually lazy to claim I said that, if not an outright lie. It should be expected from someone who ignores true domestic terrorists and tries to paint fringe protesters who damage property in the same light.
"Do what we say?" That might be a valid objection if what "they" are saying was unreasonable. However most of us think eliminating police brutality is a good thing. As opposed to the the real terrorists you conveniently ignore who kill to promote white supremacy or other neo-conservative platforms.
Sometimes it's just better to sit out a thread...Lol. Come on, Goldie. I'm speaking to the larger context of everything that is going on. We've gone down a bad path over the last forty or fifty years. And now we're starting to see the comeuppance, so to speak.
$550,000,000 damage in Minneapolis alone is a few things? I guess to Pelosi and crew it is.Man I remember back when the qualifications to be a terrorist involved killing someone. Now apparently breaking a few things makes you a terrorist today. Next thing you know I will be a terrorist cause of that ticket I got for going 51 in a 50.
Come on man. These guys need to go to jail I get that. Property destruction isn't cool with me either. But stop calling people terrorists, at least until they have killed someone.
.sorry, you are supporting domestic terrorism. They are on private property terrorizing the neighborhood.
Nothing has been peaceful about any of this.
Wow, you're easily triggered if some drums and shouting equates to terrorism. Get a focking grip brochacho!
Not only mayors, Minneapolis city council members paying over $4k a day for protection. Over $60k for three members out of the city budget.How so? Has there been a rash of death threats against mayors in US cities? Can you link a few?
If you haven't noticed, they burned Minneapolis, that was terrorism.
These "protestors" were asked to be off the streets at 8 pm. They didn't comply and broke the law, and at that point became terrorists.
Peaceful protests is a joke. They terrorized the good citizens of mnpls.
Sorry, but they are domestic terrorists.
I think those names were available through public records, if not then Castro's outing was wrong.Were you ok when Joaquin Castro gave names and addresses of Trump donors?
Yes or no?
The St. Louis group did? Wow, they sure covered a lot of ground yesterday. Did the rich gun-toting wackos trail them up there the whole way?