Right now, who is Bama's best win? Why does Bama and their #54 SoS get a pass?
Who will be the 4th playoff team? (Assuming LSU/ OSU/ Clemson are locks)
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In that case, how do you really make a case for Bama over LSU, when LSU won head to head, AT Bama?
Let me count the ways:
- They've housed everyone they've played except #1 LSU, to which they played a 46-41 game.
- Their QB is a heisman candidate, and they have blistering speed at wide out.
- Relatedly, they have a highest weighted 4-year recruiting average (https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...llege-football-recruiting-rankings-2019-class)
- They have one of the best if not the best coaching staffs in the country.
- History is on their side in that they have played liked they belonged in the college playoffs (last year's championship game notwithstanding)
That's why I said it comes down to margin of victory. If GA houses LSU, then people will think LSU has taken a step back in the weeks since the game was played, especially if Bama takes it to Auburn. If it is a close game, they might give the nod to LSU.
I don't think LSU will make it if GA runs the table so since you chose the top 3 for me, i'll go with Alabama running the table and getting the courtesy pick.
Victories over Bama (at Bama), Auburn, UF and Texas....with a blowout loss to UGA (in Atlanta), still trumps an Alabama blowout over Auburn (away), IMO.
Still much football left to be played.
My thoughts are Georgia would be sole SEC rep unless the one loss Big 12 and Pac 12 teams also go down. So if Oregon/Utah and Oklahoma keep winning and win their championship game, no way a LSU losing last Saturday or a Bama not even playing last Saturday jumps over Oregon and Oklahoma conference champs, especially with the SEC already represented by UGA. Of course, then the debate is who do you pick PAC 12 or BIG 12 champ to be in the last spot.
There is no doubt that Minnesota would be left out. My original question is how? I think the answer is... they're Minnesota. Which is BS.
The playoffs are not a lifetime achievement award. It's a reflection of the play for that particular year. Bama has zero top 25 wins. Their best win right now would be 6-3 aTm. Otherwise in conference they've beaten 4-6 South Carolina, 4-6 Ole Miss, 5-5 Tenn and 2-8 Arkansas. Their OOC opponents have been Duke, New Mexico State and Southern Mississippi. They don't deserve the love being thrown their way.
To quote the great American Dennis Green,
"If you want to crown them, crown their ass!"
No kidding, when your best argument is losing to a team by a few points, and not about how good your wins are, then you should not be in.
And to be clear I am not a Bama fan, or a fan of any of you effs in the south. I am a Hawkeye homer first and foremost. Then my loyalties go to the Big 10. After that I will loosely root for various teams from the midwest, other than Notre Dame and Iowa State. With that said Minny does not belong in the conversation I mean Jesus, look at who they've played. Oregon lost to Auburn, who isn't that great, and almost lost to Washington, who isn't that great. Utah got their ass pounded by Washington. Penn State just lost to Minny and the hawkeyes could have beaten them. Oklahoma lost to KSU and should have lost to ISU. Florida? Nope. Baylor? they are the Minnesota of the B12. Auburn? Nope. And on it goes.
Who should be then? Sorry if I missed the case you made for a more deserving team.
Because they're only getting the benefit of being Alabama. They had their shot to take down LSU. Especially if LSU gets into the playoff. Like I said earlier, if their best win right now is a loss, then no.
If Minnesota or Baylor win out they should go in over Alabama.
Also, no one in the country gets the benefit Alabama has. Alabama takes an L, doesn't even play in their conference championship game and still gets in. So then LSU has to beat Alabama twice to win the National championship. If Alabama had won, LSU wouldn't be in the talks to make the CFP, so Alabama only has to win once because they're Alabama.
F*** em. They had their shot.
F*** em. They had their shot.
If Baylor wins out, no. By your analysis they will not have beaten anyone of a playoff caliber. If Minnesota wins out, that means they will have beaten Iowa, which should indeed qualify them for the playoffs on that basis alone. If they follow that up with wins over Wisky and tO$U, they would certainly bolster their case. But they will lose to Iowa this weekend and for sure against OSU.
Neither did Alabama, but people say Alabama should get in even though they have an L right now and Minnesota does not. Duke, New Mexico State, and Western Carolina.
So, Penn State loses to a ranked team on the road and falls 6 places and Bama loses at home and falls only two. Yeah, that seems about right. 
If Oregon wins out then they deserve to be in over Bama. Their only loss was in the closing seconds in the season opener against Auburn. Winning the Pac-12 with a 12-1 record should count for more than finishing second in the SEC West.
Auburn will finish maybe be 3rd in said western division. The pac12 is dog crap this year.
This whole system blows. This “eye-ball test” beauty pageant sh*t is garbage. Why do we even play the games. Just assign the best 4 teams on paper a spot in the playoffs and screw the regular season. It shouldn’t be the 4 “best” teams, it should be the 4 most deserving teams based on resume. I f*cking hate Minnesota but they should absolutely be #4 right now.
If both keep winning, then the B1G Championship is essentially a College Football Playoff play-in game, like Iowa vs. Michigan State was. As should Oregon-Utah if the winner doesn’t lose any more.
That seems to work in every conference but the SEC.
Why?
Their schedule overall it pretty damn salty.
It is no worse than the vast majority of D-1 teams...and a damn sight better than most year in and year out.
The season is 12 weeks long, plus “play-offs”.....Pretty much, the best 4 teams will qualify themselves by season’s end.
Non-conference schedules are really overrated as far as the final 4 team selections are concerned, in my opinion.
It is not. Outside of LSU (which they last...at home) they have not played a team that is currently in the top-25. If Auburn loses to UGA and Bama, they may not be ranked, either. Only playing one top-25 team in 12 games is not normal for a power-5 school. But it can happen if you have a shitty OOC schedule, which Bama clearly has.
They have no resume.
But there is still a lot of football left to be played. It's way too early for people to freak out.
In that scenario, how bad would Oregon’s loss to auburn look? And yet, there is clamoring for Oregon?
If they don’t win the SEC Championship this year, they ain’t making it. It’s not their fault their conference opponents are below par this year. Generally speaking, Power 5 teams will play several solid teams annually...I really don’t blame them for not loading up their schedules with top flight intersectional games. Maybe once every 4-5 years......
Yes they will. The committee pretty much set it up for them to get the #4 spot without them even qualifying for their conference Championship game much less winning it.
If Georgia loses at Auburn or in the SEC Championship game, Bama will slide up from 5th to 4th. Had the committee dropped them to the 7-8 range, that scenario would not be as feasible.
