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Who won the Walz v Vance debate?

Who won?

  • Walz

    Votes: 47 25.0%
  • Vance

    Votes: 92 48.9%
  • Basically a tie

    Votes: 49 26.1%

  • Total voters
    188
According to the springfield city manager, the city has been receiving calls about hatians eating cats and geese since at least march, well before trump brought this to the national spot light. We also have recorded police calls from early August confirming this has been reported to the local authorities for MONTHS. This still doesn't hold a candle to the biggest problems the hatians brought with them..
Duped. Again.
 
Which post did you answer my question? I'm not seeing anything about the previous 5 VP actions you were impressed with.
I never said I was impressed with the previous 5 VP actions and you know that. 😉
 
After hearing JD Vance speak for 10 minutes, i thought Eddie Haskell meet JD Vance who watched you as a kid and now can copy you..
 
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I learned in 7th grade Civics class that the main constitutional duty of the VP is to break Senate ties and count (not delay) Electoral College votes. That's it. They can't write Executive Orders, they're not the head of state, they're not Commander in Chief. John Nance Garner was a VP of FDR. He famously described the vice presidency as being "not worth a bucket of warm piss"

Has Harris gained experience as VP? Absolutely. Is she qualified? Maybe not to the extent I would like but in comparison to...well, there is no comparison.
Your one good point is that the VP breaks Senate ties (which Kamala did in the misnomer of the Inflation Reduction Bill aka the Green New Deal), so that right there disqualifies her for a higher office.
 
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Walz whiffed on the China thing. Riding his bike around the neighborhood in Nebraska was humorously sad. And being friends with school shooters. Maybe they were pheasant hunting buddies?
Vance will have trouble defending his performance? You just telegraphed what the Dems have decided is their plan of attack.
Abortion shows up consistently as not in the Top 3-4 issues voters care about. 16-17%.

While I’m pro choice I’m like most voters who see high food prices, the state of the economy, global peace threatened, and domestic issues that divide us as larger issues.

Use a condom and reduce the need for abortions. Be part of the realization that your sperm and her egg don’t really need to meet up unless you want them to. Stop being influenced by emotion and take charge of your personal life.
Well said.
 
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I never said I was impressed with the previous 5 VP actions and you know that. 😉
I gather you must have believed Harris should had done more as Vice President, given your criticisms of her for not being particularly impressive in the role. But, if we're being honest, it seems you don't find any recent Vice President all that remarkable. I find it curious that people often point out Harris's lackluster performance as if it's an anomaly, when in reality, most VPs aren’t particularly impressive—and that's largely by design.
 
He's not a neophyte, but there is an obvious experience gap between the two when it comes to talking to a TV audience.
Yet, they’ve essentially kept Walz away from the media after he became VP candidate. 🤔
 
Historically, the VP debate has moved the needle very little in elections.

Not sure when they started, but they’ve always been a little weird to me. The candidates somehow have to look competent and relatively normal, but can’t really say everything they want because they have to align with the POTUS candidate, and then they can’t be so good that they outshine the POTUS candidate either.
I somewhat agree, but they are a heart beat away from the presidency, so the public needs to know that a VP candidate at least has a grasp of the bigger issues.
 
Vance went to college to be a lawyer. He can be smooth at times, then can be an absolute idiot at others. He has had more missteps than I can count. Right now what are the biggest issues for the Trump/Vance campaign - The dog/cats - that was pushed initially by Vance. Cat ladies, as those that don't have kids. Again issue pushed by Vance. That he cannot admit Trump lost the election. These are all on Vance. Then of course abortion and January 6th.

You can talk about missteps by Walz, but he has nothing compared to those by Vance. They didn't really go after his misstatements on his military record, seems like that was nothing they could really get him on. Now appears maybe they will go after China ties.

Of the 2, though the biggest hits will still be on the Trump/Vance side, especially with Trump unwilling to do another debate. Will be interesting if the polls begin to converge or continue to sway Kamala's way.
Regardless of all your above rhetoric, even left leaning media today is saying that Vance won last night’s VP debate.
 
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He has been pretty clear on that. That you want to go after it, honestly who cares. Is Vance still worried about the Cats and dogs? What about all the Cat ladies. What about total abortion ban? I can continue this banter if you wish.
Enlighten me…how was Walz “pretty clear” about fibbing on his final military rank?
 
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And that is the essence of Vance, being anti Trump wasn't advancing his career so he decided to go all in on Trump to further his political ambitions.
Or, as Vance said…he changed his mind on Trump after he saw how he did in his first term. 🤔
 
I’m not sure previous Veeps were specifically given a task and a designation as the Czar of Anything, so that’s a false “defense”. Kamala Harris was indeed given that task by the President.
Trump assigned Pence the task of curing cancer. How’d that work out?
 
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Vance won the bulk of the night maybe 60-40, but dropped the ball on the 2 going in for the TD with his non-answer on who won the 2020 election.

He also gave up the second best sound bite of the debate on fact checking.

For Vance not to have an answer for the election winner and Walz not to have an answer for China is debate prep malpractice.
The Walz thing from 30 years ago? Meh. Not the same as not answering if Trump lost the election.
 
Best description I saw was someone mentioned that Vance won the first half, while Walz looked nervous; but the second half of the debate was even, with Walz getting in his best jabs in that stretch.

Highly doubt there’s a big bump in polling from this.
Sounds like a Democrat “description”. 😉
 
I've seen several polls and usually Vance won by 1%. Vance is slick as someone said, but slick isn't necessarily a good description to have for someone running for political office. Vance on:
Climate change, no answer
Budget plans, no answer
Where they should seize lands to drill, no answer
Did trump lose the election, no answer
Their health care plans, no answer
Had to laugh when Vance complained that he got fact checked which was against the rules. lol

How a person looked or spoke doesn't mean crap. Walz won on substance and it wasn't even close.
It was kind of funny because the two ditzy moderators were actually wrong on the topic that they “fact checked” Vance on.
 
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Answer the question. Why didn’t the border bill get signed? And who won the 2020 election you freaking simpleton?
First…that so-called border bill was crap legislation. Secondly. Biden won the 2020 election. However, if the media would have reported on the Hunter laptop prior to the 2020 election, then those election results may have been different.
 
Do you agree that the Haitians are not here illegally?
Yes. Technically many of the border crossers are not here illegally. But they do not have permission to be here.

They aren't eligible for deportation as the country they came from isn't safe to send them back to. Now, in time, they may be approved to be here. Hence the word temporary.

I suspect you'd feel somewhat different if 10,000 people showed up to your small town of Dubuque within a very short period. Many of whom were not English speaking and were using all of the community resources designed for Dubuque.

Now America is a generous place that has historically taken in many of the worlds refugees. Which many of these people are no doubt. But they should be relocated in a much more intelligent manner in such a way as to minimize local impact and give the refugees the best chance of assimilation.
 
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First…that so-called border bill was crap legislation. Secondly. Biden won the 2020 election. However, if the media would have reported on the Hunter laptop prior to the 2020 election, then those election results may have been different.
Keep on trying Cletus... it's fun watching you try to defend the indefensible.
 
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Funny. I thought Vance came away as very strange. I didn't think he came across as the humble likeable guy at all. I looks like a sleazeball to me. Something about his eyes give me creepy vibes.
And Walz came across as a grumpy old man. While he is “only” 60, Timmy looks much older than that.
 
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Maybe a “respectable” woman who doesn’t need to get an abortion. 🤔
Or a respectable woman that just wants Bonespurs to grab her by the pussy. He can do it you know, and there's nothing they can do about it.
 
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Trump is an absolute joke as a politician/President. He has been ever since he decided to run in 2015. Much like the cast najoriry of his business empire, Trumo’s politics are a fraud.
Because Trump is NOT a politician; perhaps that’s his appeal. None of the “slick” politician BS.
 
There’s this weird notion cons have latched on to that there’s all things Harris could have or should have done…forgetting that VPs have very little formal power and can only act with whatever assignments provided by POTUS, who can overrule them at any moment.
Hummm…Biden assigned Kamala the border…which she failed on, so there’s that.
 
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Or a respectable woman that just wants Bonespurs to grab her by the pussy. He can do it you know, and there's nothing they can do about it.
If a woman can’t push his unwanted hand away and call him a jerk, then they’re not much of a strong, independent woman. 😉
 
Do you believe the Republicans tabled the bill because of Trump? Yes or no.
No, because once anyone of sound mind read that bill they knew it still allowed too many illegal migrants to enter this country b4 it kicked it.
 
You probably believe Haitians are eating cats and dogs in Springfield. It would be nice if you could actually find a link to Harris being appointed to Border Czar, that certainly isn't what my link said. Maybe reading comprehension isn't your strength.
While the term “czar” wasn’t used she was assigned to find the root cause of such large # of crossings and work to secure the border. She failed miserably.
 
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