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Why are we being lectured by a guy with $400 billion

The guy with 400m (400bn) in OP is way more disconnected from an average person then the man with 12 dollars. Everyone on this site is probably way closer to being peers with the 12 dollar man and much more likely to give relatable advice.
Relatable and good are teo different things.
 
getting advice? sure...I'll go to the $400B guy

but informing public policy...especially as it relates to slashing govt funding for people that have paid into and now count on SS?

that's an entirely different question, and frankly I don't think "how much money you've earned" plays much of a role in how qualified I'd consider you in answering that question

But what advice could the 400b dollar man who was born as an emerald fortune heir even offer? If you walked up to him and was like "hey, I would like you advice on something..." I honestly can't think of a single thing I would ask him. He essentially exists in a different planet then me.
 
I like Dave at the record store, Dave has good buds and likes the music I like, Dave is 43 and wears car shirts, Dave will not be giving my daughter advice on being a successful human.

What advice do you believe Elon could give to your daughter? How to solo pump and dump a crypto with obscene amounts of money? How to by a president?

Dave (who may or may not like his job) could offer advice on records, music gear, or maybe give some missteps he made that landed him in a record store.

I'm just not seeing it.
 
What advice do you believe Elon could give to your daughter? How to solo pump and dump a crypto with obscene amounts of money? How to by a president?

Dave (who may or may not like his job) could offer advice on records, music gear, or maybe give some missteps he made that landed him in a record store.

I'm just not seeing it.
Well.... small business ownership, people management, time management, positive activities outside such a demanding work load to minimize stress...





I would like to take this big pitcher for just one second.


It isn't "eloon", the left doesn't like wealthy people, yet they ran on being the voice of fortune 500 ceos.



There seems to be this
 
The guy with 400m (400bn) in OP is way more disconnected from an average person then the man with 12 dollars. Everyone on this site is probably way closer to being peers with the 12 dollar man and much more likely to give relatable advice.
Sorry but this is a garbage take. What's someone worth $12 gonna tell me, "don't do what I did"? Cool thanks. That's not what we need. Unfortunately that's what we've been getting from the feds for 25+ years which is why we're 36 trillion in debt with no end in sight. It's time for people that actually understand success have some influence again.
 
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What advice do you believe Elon could give to your daughter? How to solo pump and dump a crypto with obscene amounts of money? How to by a president?

Dave (who may or may not like his job) could offer advice on records, music gear, or maybe give some missteps he made that landed him in a record store.

I'm just not seeing it.
Dave might, in fact, be leading a happy life - earning enough, enjoying what he does, intact moral values....
 
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Well.... small business ownership, people management, time management, positive activities outside such a demanding work load to minimize stress...





I would like to take this big pitcher for just one second.


It isn't "eloon", the left doesn't like wealthy people, yet they ran on being the voice of fortune 500 ceos.



There seems to be this

I dislike Elon. I also dislike Peter Thiel. I also dislike wealthy people that take SCOTUS people on fancy trips. I dislike billionaires having the only real representation in the government as it applies to beneficial laws passed for.

Sorry but this is a garbage take. What's someone worth $12 gonna tell me, "don't do what I did"? Cool thanks. That's not what we need. Unfortunately that's what we've been getting from the feds for 25+ years which is why we're 36 trillion in debt with no end in sight. It's time for people that actually understand success have some influence again.

Elon understands......how to enrich himself. He will use his position to do more of that. Hell, him getting into the meme named DOGE position has already enriched him.
 
What advice do you believe Elon could give to your daughter? How to solo pump and dump a crypto with obscene amounts of money? How to by a president?

Dave (who may or may not like his job) could offer advice on records, music gear, or maybe give some missteps he made that landed him in a record store.

I'm just not seeing it.
If you have a vision and a dream, no matter how big, chase it with all you have and be prepared to work your ass off.
If and when you get to the point of being in charge or running your own company, surround yourself with great people then let them roll.
Don't give up when you get resistance or hit road blocks.
No one that doesn't have a completely politically broken brain can argue Elon hasn't accomplished incredible things with tesla, space x, starlink... that wasn't all by accident.
 
He lies too much about important things.

Can you give us three examples?

He also says opposite and misleading stuff about the same topic.

Can you give us three examples?

It's why he can get away with saying awful things

Can you give us three examples?

The problem for folks like me is that it's so often the case that his original and most spontaneous statements are the worst - and we take them to be the more honest reflections of his actual views.

Do you ever react, rather than respond?

Have you ever changed your mind on a topic after being informed of better or different information?
 
Get a job and stay out of dirty bathhouses. A billionaire didn’t cause your problems. It’s his money not yours. Just because someone is a billionaire doesn’t mean they are a awful person.

Piece of shit humans like you are the cause of most problems
 
He knows how to bilk the government for subsidies, which is why he wants to get closer. His wealth is propped up on the backs of the masses as he slings both parties snake oil. Guy gets paid billions to make holes to nowhere, fly rockets, and make a tiny number of cars compared to his competition. It is actually quite hilarious. I know he is a genius, but he’d be broke if not for state money, having spent all his money doing dumb shit and making outrageous claims like “I can dig a tunnel from New York to London for under $1T”

FVCKING FACT, but these morons are too stupid to understand that
 
The guy with 400m (400bn) in OP is way more disconnected from an average person then the man with 12 dollars. Everyone on this site is probably way closer to being peers with the 12 dollar man and much more likely to give relatable advice.

Sir I think you are on the wrong site. Everyone here is a multi-millionaire with a summer home in Aspen.
 
getting advice? sure...I'll go to the $400B guy

but informing public policy...especially as it relates to slashing govt funding for people that have paid into and now count on SS?

that's an entirely different question, and frankly I don't think "how much money you've earned" plays much of a role in how qualified I'd consider you in answering that question

I think you are asking the wrong questions.

We should be asking, does this person have the relevant experience and sound judgement in identifying problems and creating solutions for programs that have trended in the wrong direction for decades?

If the answer to that is yes. Then let him go to work and stay out of his way.

He had a hand in PayPal, then handled SpaceX’s finances, then Tesla’s finances, then Twitter/X’s finances.

He has a three decade track record of excellence. Let him do his thing and enjoy the results.
 
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But what advice could the 400b dollar man who was born as an emerald fortune heir even offer? If you walked up to him and was like "hey, I would like you advice on something..." I honestly can't think of a single thing I would ask him. He essentially exists in a different planet then me
 
He does? X is a fraction of what it was. Probably only worth a 1/4 of what he paid for it.
X itself may not look prosperous, but Musk has used it to elect a president and increase his own worth by over $100 billion. That's a pretty decent ROI. No, not all due to X, but a good chunk of it is.
 
SIAP-Fair or over the top?

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They want to cut $2 trillion. They plan on doing this without snipping one bit from the military budget. The only way $2 trillion is even on the radar is if they essentially wipe out social security and medicare. Cutting a few research programs and the Department of Education isn't even going to get you to a billion dollars. Have fun with that.
Where have you heard that the military budget is off the table?
 
i have no problem with trying to improve operations and increase efficiencies in the federal government

i just think you need to actually know things about how these organizations and bureaucracies function to do that effectively

and it seems like the people being chosen to lead these efforts (including but not limited to elon) don't have that knowledge

note that i haven't heard a single thing about any legislative fixes...everything is just slashing administrative capacity and then just assuming everything will turn out well. i'd say that's a shitty plan for improving something
So, getting rid of some unnecessary gov’t regulations isn’t a “legislative fix”?
 
Musk hired a bunch of people he didn’t need to sell a story to Wall Street to keep the money flowing. When the roadblocks came, he was able to unload a lot of weight he knew he didn’t need. All these tech companies do this. That’s why Twitter was fine when he fired everyone.

Problem here is that these guys don’t know what they’re going to break when they start cutting shit. The interwoven mess of the federal government is not a large cap tech company. Much it runs on antiquated systems and processes. Cutting a trillion is a nothing burger. They need new revenues, and those aren’t coming.
Aren’t increased tariffs a new revenue source?
 
100+ different contracts across 17 different federal agencies totaling over $3,000,000,000+ from a guy who bought his reputation as a genius, sadly a genius who’s never invented anything he’s associated with. But yeah, he’ll surely save us all.
Can we give him a chance b4 bashing him?
 
I'm guessing his net worth of $447 billion has something to do with him being smart and willing to cut costs.
i'm not sure how you're confused about this...i said it pretty clearly.

i prefer an approach similar to simpson bowles (a bipartisan group of elected legislators with an actual proposal) over the elon/vivek approach (turn 2 private investors loose and assume its going to turn out better)

also, like i already said...i think efforts to improve the operations and efficiency of the federal govt is good. but i don't think it should happen solely by the action of a newly created administrative "committee" (i don't even really know what to officially call "DOGE"). these kinds of changes should happen through legislation, subject to judicial review. this all part of that constitution thing you guys sometimes pretend to care about
I get what you’re saying, but America’s huge nat’l debt is at a crisis stage, where time is of the essence. Waiting for legislation, judicial review, etc just delays the inevitability of actually getting something done to hopefully correct the problem.
 
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