If you get cancer, God wanted you to have it so why would you go to a doctor for treatment? Serious question.
Why do believers go to doctors?
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Serious question, did you think this was clever?
Maybe you were an asshole to his people, perhaps mocking them on the internet. He gives you cancer to get your attention and then heals you so you can go on to start an online ministry and fleece people out of millions so you can buy the private jet he wants you to have?
For some reason, people have decided that they are separate from "God." They also feel the need to personify God as basically a super human parental figure that exists in some parallel plane of existence.
God does not want anyone to get cancer, a heart attack,
or any other fatal disease. However, due to sin we live
in an imperfect world and we are contaminated with sin
at our birth. Sin is the cause of disease, divorce, murder,
war, and every other malady in this world.
Christianity admits that we live in a fallen world and that
Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died on a cross and rose
from the grave to give forgiveness and eternal life in
heaven to all who believe in Him.
or any other fatal disease. However, due to sin we live
in an imperfect world and we are contaminated with sin
at our birth. Sin is the cause of disease, divorce, murder,
war, and every other malady in this world.
Christianity admits that we live in a fallen world and that
Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died on a cross and rose
from the grave to give forgiveness and eternal life in
heaven to all who believe in Him.
There is a difference in God allowing something bad to happen and God wanting something bad to happen.
I don't see this logic working for the type of all powerful super God concept most embrace in this country. It might work for a less powerful pagan like God.
If that were so, Jesus should have introduced medical teachings like germ theory rather then casting out demons to cure afflictions. Unless God doesn't know why people get sick? Either way it's yet another problem.
There are Christian doctors who perform surgery on folks
and say that God worked through them to save a person's
life during the operation. Some will even call it a miracle.
You will not find many surgeons who are atheists.
They see God at work every day in the surgery room.
and say that God worked through them to save a person's
life during the operation. Some will even call it a miracle.
You will not find many surgeons who are atheists.
They see God at work every day in the surgery room.
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That wouldn't be a problem for a super God. Only a limited God has these restraints.
As a Christian, I don't understand why the first impulse is to attack people with questions, even if you think they aren't being serious. Our silliness is the reason so many people don't believe anymore. We just assume people don't want to obey God without taking a look in the mirror. How many of us believe simply because we're afraid of death? How many of us believe just so we can tell somebody else they're wrong?
Because we're nice people who get to step in when God fails.
.... And now we wait.
.... And now we wait.
when somebody is in critical condition, family and friends always solicit thoughts and prayers for a full recovery.
When recovery happens, they praise god and celebrate the miracle that just happened. When the outcome isn't so good, it is chalked up to god having a plan.
If god has this plan, why would a believer want to solicit prayers for an outcome that goes against gods plan? Why doesn't god get any of the blame when an outcome doesn't go well, but gets all the credit if the outcome is desired?
When recovery happens, they praise god and celebrate the miracle that just happened. When the outcome isn't so good, it is chalked up to god having a plan.
If god has this plan, why would a believer want to solicit prayers for an outcome that goes against gods plan? Why doesn't god get any of the blame when an outcome doesn't go well, but gets all the credit if the outcome is desired?
That's still not a problem if you have all powers. I could go back in time and make the ignorant understand germ theory and other medical realities. But God told the people it was demons. God retarded people's development on purpose. That fact also blows away free will arguments. It's a very big problem.
so why solicit prayers for a specific outcome instead of just letting gods plan take place?
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When a Christian prays for a loved one who has serious
surgery, he or she prays that God's Will be done.
Sometimes it is God's Will that a person survive surgery
and sometimes it is God's Will that a person not survive
surgery and their soul goes to heaven.
When a Christian prays for a loved one who has serious
surgery, he or she prays that God's Will be done.
Sometimes it is God's Will that a person survive surgery
and sometimes it is God's Will that a person not survive
surgery and their soul goes to heaven.
So a child dies of SIDS when they're 2 weeks old because they were infected with sin at birth?
If a child dies at 2 weeks old, how do they make it into heaven if they haven't had time to understand who God is or whether they believe in him?
So you're telling me when I see all of these "send prayers for my loved one in the hospital" posts on Facebook, the author is implying I should pray their loved one die?
if you consider both outcomes a win, and christians also believing the idea of heaven being this peaceful utopia then that should be enough comfort to know that if the outcome isn't that the loved one will make it out alive that they will be at peace in the environment know as heaven. Otherwise if the plan is that the person passes, wont god be disappointed that you didn't trust in his plan?
I don't think that's true nor does it make sense. Why would you pray to an all powerful God that you want that God to get what it wants? It's all powerful, it's a given it will get what it wants. The point of prayer is to somehow convince God about what it should want. Which right there ought to tell you the God isn't all knowing. The super God is such a crushing problem for the modern faithful.
How about when somebody solicits prayers on social media for their loved one to pull through. that doesnt sound like an endorsement for gods will that their loved one doesnt survive.
