Will Kirk Be the Head Coach Next Year?

[StallmanCurse]

Edit: This is intended to be a prediction poll. Not what should happen, or what you want to happen, but what you think will happen.

I see three possibilities:

1. He rebuilds with a new OC; Kirk 5.0. (are we on 4.0 yet? I've lost count)
2. He finds a friend as a stopgap for a couple years until he's ready to retire.
3. He takes his ball and goes home.

 

[MAXIMUSHAWKEYE]

He should retire and enjoy being a Grandpa and whatever time he has left on this earth. He'll never win the BIG after this year.

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

Yes.

 

[83Hawk]

I see three possibilities:

1. He rebuilds with a new OC; Kirk 5.0. (are we on 4.0 yet? I've lost count)
2. He finds a friend as a stopgap for a couple years until he's ready to retire.
3. He takes his ball and goes home.

#2 shouldn't even be an option.

 

[eyesofhawk]

Why wouldn't he?

 

[im4hawks50595]

Is Iowa the only program that gets rid of the oc and anounces it mid season for the following year, usually guys are canned right away and someone else will take over the playcalling duties

 

[anon_b29nm7v7dwp6r]

I don’t see it now. It sure doesn’t seem like this is Brian making the call….and that tells me Kirk probably isn’t on board with it.

There are a lot of changes going on right now in CFB….and I just am not sure Kirk is going to want to try to reboot at this point.

 

[obfuscating]

"The landscape of college football has changed; I have been struggling with ideals that I don't align with and feel that this would be the right opportunity for me to step aside and let a new face lead this program. <Snort, smirk> I have spent the majority of my life with football and feel that it is time to relax a little (if you will) and spoil my grand kids. Once a hawk (tears) always a hawk."

 

[Hawk_4shur]

I've been predicting this is KF's last season since September. And I think he made the decision a while ago.

In other words, he's not going to leave just because BF was let go. It was already in the works.

 

[StallmanCurse]

I don’t see it now. It sure doesn’t seem like this is Brian making the call….and that tells me Kirk probably isn’t on board with it.

There are a lot of changes going on right now in CFB….and I just am not sure Kirk is going to want to try to reboot at this point.

I voted yes, but I think it's really close.

On one hand, I think he's pissed about this and I could see him retiring in protest.

On the other, he has a lot of pride and I'm not sure he's willing to go out like that.

 

[HawkMachine]

Why wouldn't he?

Rumor is he's NOT happy with Goetz.

 

[HawkMachine]

I've been predicting this is KF's last season since September. And I think he made the decision a while ago.

In other words, he's not going to leave just because BF was let go. It was already in the works.

No way he was leaving with Brian struggling.

It was his priority to right the ship for his son.

Zero chance he would have left him. Zero.

 

[myteamcanbeatupyourteam]

Stoopsy as Head Coach
Joe Philbin as OC
Get on hands and knees begging Phil Parker to stay as DC

 

[pistachio1999]

Oh yeah he will be back.

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

Rumor is he's NOT happy with Goetz.

I've backed Kirk since day one. But, what does he possibly have to be upset with Beth Goetz about?

 

[Hawk_4shur]

No way he was leaving with Brian struggling.

It was his priority to right the ship for his son.

Zero chance he would have left him. Zero.

Explain - "zero chance he would have left him"? Like, KF wouldn't retire and leave Brian behind somehow?

Anyway, I think we are going to disagree on this one.

 

[ClarindaA's]

Rumor is he's NOT happy with Goetz.

Why?

 

[pistachio1999]

Why didn't they just fire Kirk? power is there to do it.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

Kirk is Chuck Grassley if he does.

Money and power is so intoxicating nothing else matters.

 

[ichawk24]

Kirk is the ultimate survivor. He survived big controversies in the past, but now is going to quit in huff? Please. Have you watched this guy for the last 25 years?

Kirk is something like 13 wins from the "Most Wins as a Big Ten Head Coach" that they note during broadcasts. He is 1.4 good seasons from getting his winning percentage from .596 to the .600 required for the college football hall of fame.

I don't see any chance he voluntarily leaves. And with his contract, I don't see any chance he is fired.

 

[HawkMachine]

Explain - "zero chance he would have left him"? Like, KF wouldn't retire and leave Brian behind somehow?

Yes. Kirk would not leave Brian behind with this mess of an offense.

 

[BonzoFury]

I've backed Kirk since day one. But, what does he possibly have to be upset with Beth Goetz about?

He can't control her like he did Barta...and oh yeah, she just fired his son, probably against his wishes.

 

[pistachio1999]

Kirk is the ultimate survivor. He survived big controversies in the past, but now is going to quit in huff? Please. Have you watched this guy for the last 25 years?

Kirk is something like 13 wins from the "Most Wins as a Big Ten Head Coach" that they note during broadcasts. He is 1.4 good seasons from getting his winning percentage from .596 to the .600 required for the college football hall of fame.

I don't see any chance he voluntarily leaves. And with his contract, I don't see any chance he is fired.

He has stated he has no hobbies and his dream "retirement" is being an OL coach. He isn't leaving football short of a health issue with him or Mary or just outright being fired.

 

[BonzoFury]

Kirk is the ultimate survivor. He survived big controversies in the past, but now is going to quit in huff? Please. Have you watched this guy for the last 25 years?

Kirk is something like 13 wins from the "Most Wins as a Big Ten Head Coach" that they note during broadcasts. He is 1.4 good seasons from getting his winning percentage from .596 to the .600 required for the college football hall of fame.

I don't see any chance he voluntarily leaves. And with his contract, I don't see any chance he is fired.

He had most losses as a Big Ten Head Coach nailed down a long time ago.

 

[pistachio1999]

He can't control her like he did Barta...and oh yeah, she just fired his son, probably against his wishes.

And Barta fired his best buddy Doyle. Kirk stayed. Kirk will stay now.

 

[gojojo]

Rumor is he's NOT happy with Goetz.

I don't think anyone needs inside information to say that KF isn't happy with Beth.

 

[pistachio1999]

He had most losses as a Big Ten Head Coach nailed down a long time ago.

Happens when you stay around long enough and don't cover for pedophiles and otherwise cheat.

 

[Max_Rebo]

I think the timing of the Brian decision is, in part, to give Kirk time to ponder his options.

It's a smart move.

 

[the24fan]

I think the timing of the Brian decision is, in part, to give Kirk time to ponder his options.

It's a smart move.

That’s actually a good point

 

[Fan In Black]

I think the timing of the Brian decision is, in part, to give Kirk time to ponder his options.

It's a smart move.

this is what I think. It sounds like talks didn't work out and she made first move in a game of chicken. The timing makes no sense.

 

[pistachio1999]

He had most losses as a Big Ten Head Coach nailed down a long time ago.

Which NFL coaches have the most losses in the NFL history? I don't even have to look it up cause I know its the best friggin ones.

 

[Heathen Raider]

Why?

Maybe He wanted it not to become news till after the Season and the recruiting Class was all signed ? Maybe He wanted to have it announced in a different fashion and from a different source or maybe He wanted to be the one to announce that BF had accepted an new Coaching position at - insert Your job here. Kirk has always controlled the narrative which is probably why He is not happy with this.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

I think the timing of the Brian decision is, in part, to give Kirk time to ponder his options.

It's a smart move.

I think it's designed to clear the dance floor for KF to retire at the end of the season.

I could certainly be wrong, but the timing for KF to retire is also pretty good.

 

[ShonnDeereGreene]

#2 shouldn't even be an option.

I understand the sentiment, but in reality he’s still the head coach and should have full authority to make the decision for the next hire (aside from family of course). If he wants a pawn to run the offensive scheme of his choosing, honestly that’s his purgative as the coach. If the AD is not ok with that, then the move needed to be about moving on from KF - not Brian.

I don’t think the issue was about the offensive system or style though. I think it is more about lack of player development (especially QB and OL), lack of fit in recruiting, lack of play action, and telling tendencies with formations and personnel.

Side note - does Barnett get a free pass now? The OL has been well below Iowa standards and a major (if not primary) contributor.

 

[StallmanCurse]

I think the timing of the Brian decision is, in part, to give Kirk time to ponder his options.

It's a smart move.

To me, a lot depends if this was a planned announcement, or if this was an internal meeting that was leaked (as has been rumored).

If planned, I think a major reason is to stem the avalanche of negative press Iowa was receiving on a weekly basis. Beth's #1 priority is to protect the brand and this announcement helps with that.

Her #2 priority is to give her coaches as much autonomy as possible. It is stepping on Kirk's toes to announce that his OC will not be retained, but it was necessary due to priority #1. It's full on meddling in his program to fire his OC mid-season, and creating a reputation as a meddling AD could inhibit her ability to attract top coaching talent in the future.

 

[win1forthe]

I've been predicting this is KF's last season since September. And I think he made the decision a while ago.

In other words, he's not going to leave just because BF was let go. It was already in the works.

I've been saying the same thing for awhile...Agree, something in the works....

 

[ClarindaA's]

Maybe He wanted it not to become news till after the Season and the recruiting Class was all signed ? Maybe He wanted to have it announced in a different fashion and from a different source or maybe He wanted to be the one to announce that BF had accepted an new Coaching position at - insert Your job here. Kirk has always controlled the narrative which is probably why He is not happy with this.

Good

 

[jo12208]

He had most losses as a Big Ten Head Coach nailed down a long time ago.

Stupid comment.

 

[tweeterhawk]

Why wouldn't he?

Do we know the substance of the conversations between Kirk, Brian, Beth, maybe even the university president? No we don't. You don't either. If, as has been reported, Brian stormed out of the meeting talking about his future, did Kirk say he was going to retire at the end of the season?

My bet is this is a package deal allowing father and son to leave at the end of the season with some degree of dignity, particularly on Kirk's part.