Worst Flipping Call Since 1972 Summer Olympics Gold Medal Hoops Game USA vs USSR

[West Dundee Hawkeye]

1. Is the call reviewable?
2. Can you review a call for one thing and then rule on another issue?
3. What is the signal for a fair catch?
4. Where is the decision made?

 

[2D_]

I've seen some say that this call has now overtaken the offsides call on Greenway years ago.

 

[Moral]

Iowa v Florida isn't looking so bad anymore.

 

[mro1978]

Iowa v Florida isn't looking so bad anymore.

oh, it still is for the amount of bad calls during that game

 

[yiana]

It’s like penalizing for holding on a call to review whether a catch was completed

 

[Garbanzo Joe]

1. Is the call reviewable?
2. Can you review a call for one thing and then rule on another issue?
3. What is the signal for a fair catch?
4. Where is the decision made?

1972 Munich reference? Please stop making me feel so damn old.

 

[Gonzo Bloor]

JFC, the sheep who are putting all the focus on that call and not asking KF about the fact that we had 127 yards of offense and 11 yards rushing... lol.

 

[ClarindaA's]

JFC, the sheep who are putting all the focus on that call and not asking KF about the fact that we had 127 yards of offense and 11 yards rushing... lol.

It’s both bro

 

[4IUSox2]

Re #2, yes it happened to IU 2 years ago in a tight one vs Cincinnati. Refs initially went to look for Fumble vs Incomplete Pass due to arm moving forward? During ensuing review, the Refs saw IU LB McFadden’s hand graze across the face mask of Cincy qb. Unbelievably, they called targeting to the head area and out of the game!! Refs totally ignored fact the Cincy OL had blocked him into the QB while airborne. This was mid-2nd qtr, when IU still led and hadn’t given up a first down at that point. So, unfortunately for #2, guess it can happen.

 

[GOHOX69]

Jim Bain 😉

 

[ClarindaA's]

Jim Bain 😉

Dude

 

[Gonzo Bloor]

It’s both bro

Yeah that's what KF wants everyone to focus on, so he doesn't have to be asked about why we were in a position where we needed a miracle return to eek out a win vs. a sh*tty Minnesota team.

 

[AreWeCross]

Jim Bain 😉

too soon

 

[GOHOX69]

Yeah that's what KF wants everyone to focus on, so he doesn't have to be asked about why we were in a position where we needed a miracle return to eek out a win vs. a sh*tty Minnesota team.

This should be the end of this thread.

 

[GOHOX69]

too soon

Most of this forum wasn't born yet.

 

[AreWeCross]

Most of this forum wasn't born yet.

I am starting to realize that.

 

[RIGHTWINGHAWK]

1. Is the call reviewable?
2. Can you review a call for one thing and then rule on another issue?
3. What is the signal for a fair catch?
4. Where is the decision made?

I'm old enough to remember the USA - USSR bball game in '72 - first Olympic "loss' ever for American hoops. Was proud of the team members not excepting the bronze medals.

 

[Mountain Man Hawk]

Re #2, yes it happened to IU 2 years ago in a tight one vs Cincinnati. Refs initially went to look for Fumble vs Incomplete Pass due to arm moving forward? During ensuing review, the Refs saw IU LB McFadden’s hand graze across the face mask of Cincy qb. Unbelievably, they called targeting to the head area and out of the game!! Refs totally ignored fact the Cincy OL had blocked him into the QB while airborne. This was mid-2nd qtr, when IU still led and hadn’t given up a first down at that point. So, unfortunately for #2, guess it can happen.

I’ve watched enough football to see some pretty unbelievable calls like the one you brought up. It is an extra level of bad though when it single handedly changes the outcome of the game, and potentially the conference championship game as well.

 

[Mountain Man Hawk]

JFC, the sheep who are putting all the focus on that call and not asking KF about the fact that we had 127 yards of offense and 11 yards rushing... lol.

Have you seen the threads on this board the last few months (years)? Believe me, we have fans that are aware of and putting plenty of focus on the bad offense.

 

[BlowinGuysHawkeye]

The refs got it correct.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Iowa v Florida isn't looking so bad anymore.

My one and only bowl game.....

 

[ItsAllBallBearingsNowadays]

oh, it still is for the amount of bad calls during that game

That game and a game we won against Nebraska (at Nebraska) were the worst games I’ve seen. This is the single worst review and call I’ve seen.

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[Herky T Hawk]

This was the most corrupt officiating in Kinnick Stadium since 2005 Michigan. Just brutal.

A coach cannot challenge and force a review to make a targeting call. It says that explicitly in the rule book. But the refs did whatever Fleck wanted yesterday. He sure as heck was the reason that they went to the review booth.

https://taso.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/2023-NCAA-Football-Rule-Book.pdf#page119

From the rule book it says a catch after an invalid signal is not a fair catch.

https://taso.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/2023-NCAA-Football-Rule-Book.pdf#page77

Instant replay can be used to look for a fair catch on a kick. But the rule doesn’t say that you can use it to look for an invalid fair catch. If the words in the book are to be trusted as they are written, then they couldn’t review the arm waving and say that was an invalid fair catch. They could only say if it was a real fair catch and we tried to advance it.

https://taso.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/2023-NCAA-Football-Rule-Book.pdf#page119

If I was a lawyer I would absolutely be arguing that since the rule book says an invalid signal is not a fair catch and only a fair catch can be reviewed, the the refs were full of shit.

 

[West Dundee Hawkeye]

I'm old enough to remember the USA - USSR bball game in '72 - first Olympic "loss' ever for American hoops. Was proud of the team members not excepting the bronze medals.

Not accepting the Silver Medals

 

[NI hawk]

Re #2, yes it happened to IU 2 years ago in a tight one vs Cincinnati. Refs initially went to look for Fumble vs Incomplete Pass due to arm moving forward? During ensuing review, the Refs saw IU LB McFadden’s hand graze across the face mask of Cincy qb. Unbelievably, they called targeting to the head area and out of the game!! Refs totally ignored fact the Cincy OL had blocked him into the QB while airborne. This was mid-2nd qtr, when IU still led and hadn’t given up a first down at that point. So, unfortunately for #2, guess it can happen.

I actually remember that exact play you are talking about in Indiana-Cincy game.
I know exactly where I was at during USA-USSR basketball game.
Yesterday's loss sux.

 

[Steamboat529529]

Iowa v Florida isn't looking so bad anymore.

You weren’t there then. Yesterday doesn’t hold a candle to that Florida Iowa Outback Bowl. Not even close.

 

[Moral]

You weren’t there then. Yesterday doesn’t hold a candle to that Florida Iowa Outback Bowl. Not even close.

I was being a bit hyperbolic.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Don Denkinger stole the '85 World Series from the Cardinals, so no that was after the '72 Olympics...

 

[Typical Situation]

I've seen so many blatantly criminal calls in sports in my lifetime it's hard to say which has been the worst. This one ranks up there with the, "Fail Mary" call in the Green Bay - Seattle game a few years ago and the game in 1990 when Colorado was given a 5th down to beat Missouri at the end of the game.

 

[Fsanford]

Worst call is every time Brian Ferentz sends in a offensive play.

Longest play of 2nd half was a QB sneak

 

[IowaPackFan]

1. Is the call reviewable?
2. Can you review a call for one thing and then rule on another issue?
3. What is the signal for a fair catch?
4. Where is the decision made?

1. Yes it’s reviewable. All scoring plays are. Had he gone down at the one it still could have been reviewed.
2. Yes
3. Hand above head, but this was for invalid
4. Who knows. Wouldn’t be surprised if Witvoet was involved.

My snag is that all reviewable plays have to be indisputable and this is 100% interpretation. Since it was not interpreted that ways by anyone on offense, defense, officials, fans, commentators etc then there is no way to change that call.