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WOW.....Vance on Meet the Press with Welker

Lol please make JD Vance the Republican nominee in 2028. He's a dollar store version of Ron DeSantis with a worse personality and I can think of 5 or 6 Dems that would crush him in that matchup.
Good luck. He will have the distinct benefit of having been a successful VP by then.

The dems have no one on the bench I am worried about in the slightest.

I'm very sorry but Mayor Pete is the reincarnation of Dukakis and his attempt to run and win.
 
The media once again is going to get Trump elected. I assume most posters on here aren’t that impacted by the increase in inflation, so it’s not a real big issue. But the average pay for a big chunk of the country is well under $100,000 a year. Trying to make a living with a family at the prices four years ago versus today has got to be very challenging for a lot of families.

So when they see news reports like this where they say Trump is a threat, Trump is a facist, Trump says mean things, I imagine they really don’t care. What they remember is that he did serve for four years, and their ability to survive and thrive economically was much better.

It’s long been known that people vote with their wallets and the Republican Party seems to be becoming the party of the poor and lower income, so they are going to get that vote. As Bill Clinton said back in his successful campaign, “it’s the economy, stupid!”
 
You know, I think i'll be fair here. Although I think Vance is smarter Id say they have similar CVs in a lot of ways.

One went to Harvard/Oxford and got a BA in polisci, philosophy and economics. One to OSU and got a BA in polisci and philosophy.
One went to Law school a Yale and got a JD and the other doesnt have a JD at all.
One was an ensign in the Navy Reserves and the other an active duty US Marine corporal.
One was a mayor, and Transportation secretary the other a Senator.

So I really have no idea why you would think one is smarter than the other honestly. If only this race were the two of them at the tops of their respective tickets. But alas.....
But have you considered that mayor Pete is gay?
 
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But have you considered that mayor Pete is gay?
That is true. You have one guy that is from Middletown, Ohio and white and straight and married to a woman of Indian decent and one guy is from 150 miles away in South Bend Indiana and white and gay and married to a white dude.

Intersectional boxes ✅ Just depends on which boxes you prefer.
 
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He answered the questions and destroyed her every time she thought she had a gotcha question. And you want to do revisionist history just like she tried. You know......how it was really Trump who was the cause of Russia invading and taking Crimea and not Obama. Just classic Dem media at work.
Hawkman for a man of the law you can’t be serious. This is the question if I like Pence told you to violate the law if it helped him would you. Vance has unequivocally said yes many times. It really boggles me how law enforcement can be for Trump.
 
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What would that look like?

Do you just ditch most government services and functions, or do you raise the revenues other ways?

Since ditching government isn't going to happen, and even a more limited government will still require revenue, what other ways do you picture for paying the bills?
What did it look like before 1913?

All the establishment of the Fed’s phony money system and the income tax did was enable the government to engage in more frequent and ever-widening wars.

Taxation is theft. Can’t believe how brainwashed Americans have become when they just can’t grasp the concept of liberty.

Stockholm syndrome.
 
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I didn’t watch that interview. I watched him lie to Jake Tapper when he sane-washed Trump’s unhinged comments about unleashing the military on his political opponents.

Just as a heads-up, don’t defend that.
If you didn’t watch the interview that he is referring to, why are you even responding to this thread?
 
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Yep. We Dems hate her so much that we sell out every venue she books. We hate her so much that we donated the most money in history to her campaign. And we hate her so much that every speech she gives is met with the kind of energy that Trump could only dream of.
However, that doesn’t negate the fact that Harris didn’t receive any votes to run for president. 😉
 
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Speaking of the desire to pay no income taxes. Who else is over 30 and remembers the days when the Republicans were considered the responsible adult party?

The OP, although apparently a law enforcement officer, appears to have the mentality of a child. No income taxes! Why not have Christmas every day? Let's make everyday Saturday too!
When you’re retired…”everyday is Saturday”! 😉
 
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I'm going to say it again: If Trump wins, Vance will be President within the year.

Trump may be paid/forced to resign. He may die. He may be the first President to be 25th'd. But he'll be gone.

Vance is the pliable plaything/protege of the billionaire Right - think Peter Thiel - and can be counted on to do their bidding. He's also smart enough to not do anything too stupid on his own.

By contrast, Trump is a train wreck who could really hurt our plutocrats and oligarchs if he sticks around to long. To them, Trump is merely a convenient vehicle to get their guy into power.
You can take your tinfoil hat off now. 😉
 
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You know, I think i'll be fair here. Although I think Vance is smarter Id say they have similar CVs in a lot of ways.

One went to Harvard/Oxford and got a BA in polisci, philosophy and economics. One to OSU and got a BA in polisci and philosophy.
One went to Law school a Yale and got a JD and the other doesnt have a JD at all.
One was an ensign in the Navy Reserves and the other an active duty US Marine corporal.
One was a mayor, and Transportation secretary the other a Senator.

So I really have no idea why you would think one is smarter than the other honestly. If only this race were the two of them at the tops of their respective tickets. But alas.....
Pete has dominated every interview he has done. I don’t know about smarter. I don’t think Pete is smarter necessarily but I think he would be better in a debate. I will admit that Vance’s biggest handicap personally is having to defend Trump. That makes him look dumber than he actually is.
 
I didn’t watch that interview. I watched him lie to Jake Tapper when he sane-washed Trump’s unhinged comments about unleashing the military on his political opponents.

Just as a heads-up, don’t defend that.
Vance characterized this correctly. Trump talked about using the military on the rioters. Which should have been done. Not Pelosi. Attempts to say otherwise are disingenuous.

One might say Trump said this in the same discussion with the Pelosi comments. Sure. He moves from one topic to the next with every topic. One cannot state that he couldnt have been discussiing the rioters, rather Pelosi, because he constantly changes what he is talking about mid answer. I think any rational opinion of what he was discussing would at least acknowledge that he could have been talking about the rioters, in fact, he said as much.
 
You need to look at yourself in the mirror. You’re the biggest hypocrite of anyone. On the internet you pretend to be a bleeding heart liberal when in reality you’re an elitist wannabe leeching off of other people’s equalities. You would know all about being polished because you polish little flicks penis everyday. You’re completely worthless and a fvcking idiot.
You’re*. lol. You’re such a dipshit.
 
You serious about that Clarke? ;)

Now, can you refute the points I made? Are they lies or are they the truth? The only reason she has the support she does is there was NO OTHER CHOICE given by the party. She is it. No one said that the Dems would not blindly support the person installed by the party leaders.
What's it like supporting a felon rapist who steals from a charity for veterans? Are you also a sociopath like Trump or do you just lack any sort of moral compass?
 
Yes, he lost. Here is the thing, I honestly believe that he, Vance (and many Republicans) truly believe he was shafted. It would be WAY worse to me if he knew he lost and claimed otherwise. I simply do not belive this is the case.
Horse. Shit. He was told by his own VP that he lost. His own DHS Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency put out a statement saying, “The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double-checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.”

If he "truly believed" he won...this is a completely delusional person impervious to all factual evidence that you are here defending. Yes...it is WAY worse than you are willing to admit. You are either a complete idiot or you're a pathological liar. Either way, you're not worth another second of time.
 
Hawkman for a man of the law you can’t be serious. This is the question if I like Pence told you to violate the law if it helped him would you. Vance has unequivocally said yes many times. It really boggles me how law enforcement can be for Trump.
Don't confuse this maggot with @Hawkman98.

#34 couldn't find his ass with both hands.
 
Good - then you know that she doesn’t come across as very intelligent.

Nah. Not really.

And really; you’re carrying the water for @Gus is dead here, which is quite moronic on your part. He suggested that if Kamala is elected, she’d be the world's dumbest, least prepared, most vacuous President in the history of America.

I mean: we lived through Donald Trump from 2017-21 - and continue to have to put up with his stupid shit. Harris doesn’t come close to “dumb” and “vacuous”. It’s a silly argument.
 
Trump once again talked about anyone who disagrees with him is the enemy within at this Nazi rally tonight. So, JD is once again full of crap.
 
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You need to read a book at some point. One in which a coup is actually defined. Let me help. The key word in the definition is the word unlawful. Usually combined with violent. How does that fit the Democratic nominee.
Well, I guess like how you libs like to say you can define a women other then what it has always been known as....we now have a new example of a coup. Nice try.
 
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Hawkman for a man of the law you can’t be serious. This is the question if I like Pence told you to violate the law if it helped him would you. Vance has unequivocally said yes many times. It really boggles me how law enforcement can be for Trump.
Man of the law? Who do you have me confused with?

Now, I do have multiple family members in law enforcement and they are all solidly Trump. Fact is, they know the libs have been against the blue for a while now. See, that is what happens when you want to turn on the police during the summer of love and then push to defund them? Crazy isn't it? :rolleyes:
 
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He found it politically expedient to back track and go full on maga in order to get an endorsement. Let’s not chalk it up to a thoughtful analysis of opinion.
Really? And, Harris became Bidens VP choice after calling his actions racist on the debate stage. And, when pushed about her statements...what did she say? "It was a debate (laugh)...It was a Debate (laugh), ect".......over and over. :rolleyes:
 
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