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WOW.....Vance on Meet the Press with Welker

I believed her liberal (not extreme, but liberal) positions at the time. But now that I've seen her backtrack and waffle on some of them, I don't know whether she was sincere back then or just being political.

In other words, was she sincere when she opposed fracking and backed universal health care back then, but is being political now? Or was she being political both then and now? I suppose there's a possibility that she was sincere both then and now, and just evolved, but that seems less likely.

As a lefty, I'm hoping she was sincere back then and will show that if she wins (and is allowed to take office). So, yes, I'm hoping she's just being political now. And, yes, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth - but I understand that it's pragmatic.
Thank you for being honest. It goes both ways. She was as extreme as they come....more left then Bernie for heavens sake. She is doing what they all do and lying to get votes.
 
What's classic is you don't understand what he said.

Are you still claiming that Vance's derogatory comments about Trump were prior to his term as President?
You are correct. He did say some things about Trump prior to the 2020 election. Good catch. But, can you admit that the same thing occured with Harris and Biden prior to her being chosen as VP? Both side are caught in this same rhetoric.

And yes, I still laugh at what he wrote.
 
If Vance is as smart as you think he is(and I agree btw), there is no way he thinks Trump won 2020. He's 100% lying to appease Trump & the GOP base. If a politician can't admit this, disqualifying in my book.
Then BOTH candidates must be disqualified.
 
Cool!

I can't wait to see you supporting Kamala's efforts to turn the US into a Marxist Utopia.

Oh, that wasn't what you meant? Then what did you mean when you said you will "support her as my President and want her to succeed"?
One again, I will support her and pray she does not screw the county up even worse then what they have done the last 4 years. If she makes a decision, then I will hope it will lift the country up. That is what I meant. Not rocket science. Now, I do not want her to win......but if she does we have to get behind her. I said the same thing about Biden and it took two years for me to finally say that he was a mess and we were in toruble as a country.
 
When you’re retired…”everyday is Saturday”! 😉
It is really funny how these idiots have me confused with someone else on here who is apparently in law enforcement? Oh well, I am proud to be confused the men and women in blue! They are on here the entire day and and are in so many debates they can't keep it all straight. LOL!!
 
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You are correct. He did say some things about Trump prior to the 2020 election. Good catch. But, can you admit that the same thing occured with Harris and Biden prior to her being chosen as VP? Both side are caught in this same rhetoric.

And yes, I still laugh at what he wrote.
LOL - he said Trump failed in his Presidency. Kamala has never said anything close to that.

You are an ignorant shill.
 
One again, I will support her and pray she does not screw the county up even worse then what they have done the last 4 years. If she makes a decision, then I will hope it will lift the country up. That is what I meant. Not rocket science. Now, I do not want her to win......but if she does we have to get behind her. I said the same thing about Biden and it took two years for me to finally say that he was a mess and we were in toruble as a country.
Coming out of a worldwide pandemic, it's easy to overlook the strides the Biden administration has made for economic recovery. Were they perfect? No. But they've made more right moves than wrong, helping to drive a resurgence in the U.S. economy that is now admired across the globe.
 
One again, I will support her and pray she does not screw the county up even worse then what they have done the last 4 years. If she makes a decision, then I will hope it will lift the country up. That is what I meant. Not rocket science. Now, I do not want her to win......but if she does we have to get behind her. I said the same thing about Biden and it took two years for me to finally say that he was a mess and we were in toruble as a country.
So, you won’t be like your boy and claim the election was stolen? Even 4 years later?
 
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That is the best you can do? Good grief. 😂
The not OT pay is a ploy to gain votes from Law Enforcement and Union workers. It will never happen and it shouldn't. It's like saying I shouldn't have to pay taxes on my commissions because I've already earned my salary. The same goes for tips. It's just a ploy to capture a voting block he doesn't have.

At some point, you have to be able to pay for stuff. Donald Trump has never figured that out, which is why he's declared bankruptcy multiple times. I get wanting lower taxes but it needs to be done responsibly. This is anything but that.
 
Vance is well spoken that's about it. He's a pathological liar like his boss.
I agree, but have a followup question. Does being a pathological liar mean you can't be a good President?

Don't get me wrong. Serious lying (stating it that way to avoid quibbles about what counts as "pathological") should be disqualifying. But does a willingness to lie necessarily interfere with other competencies - arguably more important competencies - needed to be an effective President? I'm thinking not.
 
Somebody with a sense of humor will read my comment and laugh. I'm sorry you didn't find the humor in the joke.
If a flaming liberal like me said that, it would be taken as an attempt at humor. Unfortunately for you, everybody already believes that's the way you actually think.

Moral: If that's not the way you actually think, you might want to pay more attention to the impression your usual comments are leaving.
 
If a flaming liberal like me said that, it would be taken as an attempt at humor. Unfortunately for you, everybody already believes that's the way you actually think.

Moral: If that's not the way you actually think, you might want to pay more attention to the impression your usual comments are leaving.
If the people on here knew the real me, they'd know it was a joke. Disciple is like my alter-ego he says, does, and thinks stuff on a message board that I don't have to feel badly about.
 
Coming out of a worldwide pandemic, it's easy to overlook the strides the Biden administration has made for economic recovery. Were they perfect? No. But they've made more right moves than wrong, helping to drive a resurgence in the U.S. economy that is now admired across the globe.
No they didn't. They did the single worst thing they ever could have done with the Inflation explosion act. Look up the data. Goodness.
 
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The not OT pay is a ploy to gain votes from Law Enforcement and Union workers. It will never happen and it shouldn't. It's like saying I shouldn't have to pay taxes on my commissions because I've already earned my salary. The same goes for tips. It's just a ploy to capture a voting block he doesn't have.

At some point, you have to be able to pay for stuff. Donald Trump has never figured that out, which is why he's declared bankruptcy multiple times. I get wanting lower taxes but it needs to be done responsibly. This is anything but that.
Your are kidding with this right? Harris has come out after Trump has made some policy statments (including no tax on tips)....only to come out and say that SHE is the one who came up with the policy. LOL!
 
Nope. It is clear you were not tuned in during the last 4 years at the point inflation took off. But, you do you. LOL!!

Which Biden policy in 2020 kicked off US and global inflation?
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Thank you for being honest. It goes both ways. She was as extreme as they come....more left then Bernie for heavens sake. She is doing what they all do and lying to get votes.
By whose standard Hawkman? Yours???
Hell, Bernie isn’t even a Democrat! You are so phuquin’ blind, you doint see that? Bernie caucuses with the Dems…..it gives his Senatorial position some standing in that Chamber…..allows him to serve on committees and such….gives him a negotiations position,,,,but Bernie is NOT a Democrat! You dumb phuque…..
 
No they didn't. They did the single worst thing they ever could have done with the Inflation explosion act. Look up the data. Goodness.
BS. The US’s inflation is the envy of the industrialized world. The rest of the world dreams of having inflation around 3%, like we have and as quickly.

If you want to see inflation, elect Trump and watch his 20% tariff plan skyrocket prices.
 
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By whose standard Hawkman? Yours???
Hell, Bernie isn’t even a Democrat! You are so phuquin’ blind, you doint see that? Bernie caucuses with the Dems…..it gives his Senatorial position some standing in that Chamber…..allows him to serve on committees and such….gives him a negotiations position,,,,but Bernie is NOT a Democrat! You dumb phuque…..
By whose standard? Everyones moron. Good grief, facts matter chode.

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-more-liberal-bernie-sanders-senate-record-analysis-shows-1524481

Keep spouting lies idiot. 😂
 
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Which Biden policy in 2020 kicked off US and global inflation?
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Biden takes office in January, 2021, Inflation is 1.4%

2 years AFTER Biden takes office, his policies cause record inflation.

August 31, 20228.26%
July 31, 20228.52%
June 30, 20229.06%
May 31, 20228.58%
April 30, 20228.26%
March 31, 20228.54%
February 28, 20227.87%
January 31, 20227.48%
December 31, 20217.04%
November 30, 20216.81%
October 31, 20216.22%
September 30, 20215.39%
August 31, 20215.25%
July 31, 20215.37%
June 30, 20215.39%
May 31, 20214.99%
April 30, 20214.16%
March 31, 20212.62%
February 28, 20211.68%
January 31, 20211.40%
 
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