Oh, there's someone on the roster that should take the belts off Roman...problem is he's out injured at the moment...
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They're not giving it to Cody either. Maybe if Solo gets over hugely. If not Drew, the guy isn't on the roster.
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I think it's a mixture of Punk lives his character. It's an awesome trait because it comes of as authentic live. But it has its drawbacks when u let it bleed into the real world too much.These couple of promos (Kingston and Hangman) vs Punk really showed some real emotion about how some might feel about Punk. Really hits different now that Punk throws Hangman under the bus after winning the title.
Or, Punk is really ... really good at promos.
Marks, all of you, marks... 
I never said Cody...
Would need to be late 2023 or 2024 for it to happen, if ever...
I never said Cody...
Would need to be late 2023 or 2024 for it to happen, if ever...
Becky Lynch first female Unified Champion. I know I know that ain't no bootyMarks, all of you, marks...
I never said Cody...
Would need to be late 2023 or 2024 for it to happen, if ever...
I would suspend the Elite for a month and strip their EVP titles, at least for a year.
I think Punk has to go. Like them or hate them (and there's plenty I don't like about them), the Elite built the brand to what it is today, and a massive proportion of the audience is invested in that. If the ratings had say, doubled or tripled with the addition of CM Punk, maybe you rethink it, but it's not the case. You don't alienate 75% of the fans for CM Punk fans that just tune in for him.
Plus, if you did side with Punk over the Elite...what's next for the CM Punk Grievance Association? The guy doesn't get along with anybody, doesn't like anyone, etc. He's got a history of problems everywhere he goes, and you'll be going through this with him again in six months but with Moxley or MJF or whoever.
I don't think it's impossible that AEW could outgrow the elite. If this same situation had manifested with say Jericho and Moxley vs the Elite, I think you'd have a real case to cut ties and move forward around those two guys as professionals. But you can't justify that for Punk.
And I get that the Elite are obnoxious and it rankles for relatively low status guys to be carrying around EVP titles and having a say in the business. But as far as what comes across TV, in the history of professional wrestling owners/managers/bookers undermining the promotion by doing self-aggrandizing booking for their friends and family, the Elite probably don't scratch the top 20. This is not Verne Gagne putting the AWA title on his son.
Don't see much value in the Bucks anymore to tell the truth. Omega and Hangman are still interesting characters. Agreed Punk can go back home and be miserable in private. Hopefully get him out the door without causing more damage. Sounds like Punk injured himself in Mox match. Maybe use that as an excuse to vacate title.
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If they could all agree to work together like professionals, they could make big bank on this. They could have Punk show up and admit that he's injured...but for the fans, he will give MJF his match...TONIGHT! And then they could recreate the fingerpoke of doom and Punk gives up the belt to MJF while he can't wrestle, and the two form an anti-AEW, anti-Elite heel faction, backed up by Stokley's crew.
It would be perfect.
Good luck with everyone swallowing their egos to make a great angle though.
Can't risk these guys breaking down and having another fight. It's not the 70's, 80's even the 90's anymore.
Swerve is awesome. Mox's promo is as good as it gets. Would love to see him work Heavy with Punk.
This could be a good turning point for AEW. When it started it was basically Cody and the Elite, so Tony had to hire a lot of talent that wasn't ready for a national audience, he now has a pretty fantastic roster.
He needs to hire a couple of adults to manage the children and do the day to day booking, if the Elite want to come back make them talent only, and quite featuring them 24/7.
Hopefully he learns some lessons from this and starts running his company like a company and not his childhoold figure federation, where they all were his favorites.
I doubt it will happen, but I think that is the only way this thing ever grows, as the last 3 years have shown, the indy-centric route isn't going to cut it. Once the post-scrum buzz resides, I'll be curious to see what happens to the ratings.
He needs to hire a couple of adults to manage the children and do the day to day booking, if the Elite want to come back make them talent only, and quite featuring them 24/7.
Hopefully he learns some lessons from this and starts running his company like a company and not his childhoold figure federation, where they all were his favorites.
I doubt it will happen, but I think that is the only way this thing ever grows, as the last 3 years have shown, the indy-centric route isn't going to cut it. Once the post-scrum buzz resides, I'll be curious to see what happens to the ratings.
Hope so. They have a chance here to build and maintain an actual pro wrestling company. Guys that I'd look at for day to day and booking.
Dustin Rhodes
Arn Anderson
Jericho
Lance Archer
Heath Slater
I'm beginning to believe they will never have RR lose. It's getting tiring IMO.
They've booked themselves into a bit of a corner. When u elevate someone so far above every act. U risk waiting too long to pull the trigger on him/her losing. Maybe Kevin Owens ala Daniel Bryan crowd push.
Doubt Rock will be available. He's got Black Adam to promote. Plus other movies shooting.
I'm pretty sure Jericho has creative control over his angles. He has done a really good job with that since day one. Whether you like him and his angles or not, his angles are always long term, follow a logical course, and transition well. You pretty much always clearly understand what is going on with him. There's not really any "huh?" periods or whiplash stop/starts.
Plus he's elevated a ton of guys either working with him or against him. I think you could do a lot worse than have Jericho doing more long-angle booking. I don't know if he needs to book match to match or week to week on every angle, but I suspect that things would be a lot better off if someone like Jericho was helping formulate big picture what what people were doing over a 8-12 week angle heading into major shows. Just "Ok, this is who should be in a program, this is where it leads and how it ends, and here's the major beat to hit along the way."
I would imagine Dustin would be helpful too. Honestly, what I would love Dustin to do is teach everyone on the roster how to do a standard 30 second promo. Love it on the rare occasions we get him on one of those. There are wrestlers who are golden with the mic in their hand and you can just let them roll (Mox, MJF, Kingston, etc) but there are a ton of wrestlers, and most of the womens roster, that would be well served by just getting really good at intense 30-45 second old-school promos.
I wanted Max Castor's rap badly, but that was a smart heel move there. Pretty amazing how the All Out match and how over the Acclaimed are basically turned Swerve and Lee into huge heels, and good on Swerve and the company going with that. I don't think AEW has been great at reading the crowd on face/heel booking, and admittedly, it's a really tough crowd to follow with that stuff, but leaning straight into heel Swerve works.
It should be pretty straight booking with the Acclaimed going over and Swerve turning on Lee, which has been foreshadowed for a while.
Swerve is a more natural heel. He's cool as hell. But still comes off as too cool for the room at times or aloof.
I can't imagine Rock being the champ with all of his other commitments so even if it happens, RR keeps the belts.
Well yeah, Rock would put Roman over...after that you can have someone else take the belt off of him (John Cena in a Retirement vs Title match- gets Cena the record) then have Cena put over the next one or drop it back to Drew or Roman for run number 2...
At this point Roman doesn't need the rub, I think when it first started being discussed was when Roman was still struggling to catch on in the role they wanted him...pre-GOD mode.
Unless it's some 'uce' bucket-list for both of them, not sure it makes sense as Roman transitions into a part-timer.
Agree, and in fairness, it is a match that headlines a card that needs to sell 100-120K tickets. There are not too many of them left anymore.
Still blows my mind. The amount of money these guys risked by pulling this confrontation stunt. Especially the Bucks. With the Acclaim rising, FTR, Lucha Brothers, etc Plus anyone who gets pushed in their absence. Bucks value to Tony could really take a dive.
I'd be curious to see why Cody signed an NDA...sounds like the other EVP's have been insufferable little weenies for quite awhile.
