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Zelenskyy/Trump press conference...

So Trump was Trump again today (embarrassing) could have handled that better. The question we have to ask ourselves are we willing to give Russia the territory they have gained in Ukraine for a peace agreement and Ukraine joining NATO, or do we continue to fund Ukraine and ultimately more bloodshed and the real possibility of it escalating into something that we are sending are troops to? On one hand I don’t think Putin should gain anything because he was the aggressor, on the other hand I don’t see an end to the war
He didn't want to handle it better; He loves being the bad guy and the center of attention.
 
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Both the US and EU countries made loans to Ukraine. EU % of loans to grants is significantly higher than the US. It's not close. This has been posted and is verified. Notwithstanding Macron's very carefully crafted word salad and what's being repeated on here.
The US loan was secured by frozen Russian assets. Ukraine does not owe us anything.
 
This thread has 15 pages and I’m in stitches… I haven’t made through page 3 yet
You probably don’t understand 1% of the thread because you have probably never left the small hole in the ground you live in.

No life experience, no working overseas, no knowledge of the world.

You are one of the most ignorant posters on these boards.

(Ignore list growing). I can discuss issues with people that have half a brain. I can’t discuss anything with people that have no clue about history.

Have you ever read a Russian novel. a French novel el, a Spanish novel? Do you speak a foreign language?

Ever read a foreign newspaper?

Apologies to the rest of the board. I’m so sick of people worshipping the scum that is Trump and Vance.
 
If you’re so embarrassed to be here then get the fvck out of here. But instead you’re too big of a pussy to do anything. You would rather bitch and moan about your failures in life than do something about it. The United States would be better off without bathhouse bitches like you.
How about we just ship your fat ass of to Russia…
 
You probably don’t understand 1% of the thread because you have probably never left the small hole in the ground you live in.

No life experience, no working overseas, no knowledge of the world.

You are one of the most ignorant posters on these boards.

(Ignore list growing). I can discuss issues with people that have half a brain. I can’t discuss anything with people that have no clue about history.

Have you ever read a Russian novel. a French novel el, a Spanish novel? Do you speak a foreign language?

Ever read a foreign newspaper?

Apologies to the rest of the board. I’m so sick of people worshipping the scum that is Trump and Vance.
WTF does your shitty taste in reading have to do with it?
 
Ok, so you agree he appears to be full of shit too. Glad we could have that talk.

Via your awesome skills in critical thinking you'll probably, eventually -- just maybe -- come to the conclusion that in general the man is full of shit and not a reliable source of information or accurate representer of reality.
 
You probably don’t understand 1% of the thread because you have probably never left the small hole in the ground you live in.

No life experience, no working overseas, no knowledge of the world.

You are one of the most ignorant posters on these boards.

(Ignore list growing). I can discuss issues with people that have half a brain. I can’t discuss anything with people that have no clue about history.

Have you ever read a Russian novel. a French novel el, a Spanish novel? Do you speak a foreign language?

Ever read a foreign newspaper?

Apologies to the rest of the board. I’m so sick of people worshipping the scum that is Trump and Vance.

@goldmom

You see what I mean? I rest my case.
 
Ok, so you agree he appears to be full of shit too. Glad we could have that talk.

Via your awesome skills in critical thinking you'll probably, eventually -- just maybe -- come to the conclusion that in general the man is full of shit and not a reliable source of information or accurate representer of reality.

You're really not a serious person.
 
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While likely true, that should have been a behind closed doors exchange.

Even if a deal comes through, how can our people go in with the trust of Ukraine after that...? There will need to be a reset before anything really moves forward, and the administration of US and Ukraine face a massive barrier to messaging with both US and European media likely to push a negative message despite what happens the rest of the day/weekend.
Getting rid of maga in politics will be the reset.
 
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