I think he did all that to take attention away from him visiting Pedo Island.
This was a premeditated setup and the thing most important for Trump is the show. This is what he will be most excited about.
Ukraine has a national website for their points of peace.Link? I haven't seen any specific requests.
He needed a show to give the Ukraine holdouts (eg Lindsay Graham) a cover to abandon them.
Yeah, but what would they be getting in return? I haven't seen any details either way.Ukraine has a national website for their points of peace.
Also they did not sign the mineral rights agreement.
I guess they prefer fighting and dieing.
Lol at dieing. Way to create three paragraphs and end it with dieing.Ukraine has a national website for their points of peace.
Also they did not sign the mineral rights agreement.
I guess they prefer fighting and dieing.
Get ready for the blue wave. These clowns are such an embarrassment they're the worst ever.This is really sad. They love Russia, want to make America like Russia and they don't even try to hide it anymore.
Isn’t this damn near the same as what he is doing to Ukraine?Trump wouldnt have pulled out like Biden did nor ceded the airport like Biden did nor leave billions there in equipment like Biden did. So, I guess I think your premise is wrong.
Calm down.Why not? Putn’s a dictator. Putin launders money. Putin doesn’t favor democracy. Insert list of other things Trump and Twitter have lobbed at Zelenskyy.
Does Putin not want peace?
I think he did all that to take attention away from him visiting Pedo Island.
If Mexico invaded and tried to annex 1/5 of the United States, would you be unwilling to fight and die for your country?Ukraine has a national website for their points of peace.
Also they did not sign the mineral rights agreement.
I guess they prefer fighting and dieing.
Calm down.
It isn't our territory to give. Why can't you people understand this?So Trump was Trump again today (embarrassing) could have handled that better. The question we have to ask ourselves are we willing to give Russia the territory they have gained in Ukraine for a peace agreement and Ukraine joining NATO, or do we continue to fund Ukraine and ultimately more bloodshed and the real possibility of it escalating into something that we are sending are troops to? On one hand I don’t think Putin should gain anything because he was the aggressor, on the other hand I don’t see an end to the war
Trump's the one that pulled out.Trump wouldnt have pulled out like Biden did
Trump may have wanted the show we saw.ok i watched the 5 mins of the shouting match. insane indeed. so many questions. i would’ve assumed that even bfore zelensky got on a plane to come here there was already an informal agreement in place that merely required formal in person signatures. how the eff does snl type programming happen in such a situation. whoever is to blame bit of a disaster for zelensky,
The goal of the meeting was to embarrass Zelenskyy.ok i watched the 5 mins of the shouting match. insane indeed. so many questions. i would’ve assumed that even bfore zelensky got on a plane to come here there was already an informal agreement in place that merely required formal in person signatures. how the eff does snl type programming happen in such a situation. whoever is to blame bit of a disaster for zelensky,
Senator Murphy, is that you?There's a 100% chance that Trump and Vance brought Z in to ambush him in front of the cameras. And I'm not even sure why other than to make a good video for Putty
Don't forget "invited them to Camp David....."Trump's the one that pulled out.
Released thousands of Taliban.
Negotiated w/ them absent the Afghan government.
You seem to be very very confused on the history here....
I see you’re in the market to buy a few bridges.While most of your rant is leftist fantasy, one assertion in your post is worth comment:
He couldn't care less about Ukraine. That's correct, nor should he. And if we really dig down, none of us care about Ukraine either. We do want to limit Russian expansion, but ultimately our concern is for America's interests.
One statement during the debacle was particularly telling by Trump. He said 'I'm not on Russia's side or Ukraine's side, I'm on America's side.'
This deal Trump is proposing offers Security for Ukraine in exchange for mineral rights/royalties/etc. This is simply Trump being opportunistic in the interest of America, in a way that happens to deter Russia from further incursion and gives Ukraine what they want, security, even if not as an official member of NATO.
I'm curious what zelenskyys problem with the actual deal is, I do understand the Trump/Z disdain for one another (Actually I don't really understand Trump's dislike of Z, but suspect it's more of a posture than anything).
why? this would’ve the biggest win-win he could dream about. how do these guys lose their cool when on verge of sealing the deal and end up acting out a hrot thread on tvTrump may have wanted the show we saw.
This is the difference between people cosplaying as tough guys and actual tough men.
Biden baited Russia pure and simple. He specifically said Ukraine was on their own when there were already US military assets on the ground. Ukraine simply did not have the ability to stop the invasion without US advisement.
Biden should NEVER have allowed his son to be engaged in a sensitive area.
25% of Ukraine's population has left. The nation is in shambles. The adult male population is decimated.
If Biden was serious about defending Ukraine he would have poured assets into Ukraine prior to the invasion.
Ukraine simply doesn't have much ability to use US weapons systems. F16s and Abrams are a joke.
Trump is an idiot.
The situation is hopeless and puts us on the verge of ww3 if China gets involved.
The Europeans are acting insane.
Putin is a madman that didn't develop a broad economy. Russia at best has 20 years demographically.
Idiots all around including war mongers.
After all this, his only concern will be the TV ratings.This was a premeditated setup and the thing most important for Trump is the show. This is what he will be most excited about.
Both are definitely true. Any reasonable person knows this.Why can't people hold two things in their mind at once:
A) Yeah, Trump is a raging ****tard (as evidenced by his raging ****tard behavior on the topic of Ukraine)
B) We should try to find some way to halt the Ukraine conflict; we can't spend billions of dollars every year on this thing indefinitely
Ostensibly, people be like... well I like the idea of B so A can't be true
Are people really that inadequate intellectually?
Better ways for President Zelensky to handle it, or the American clown show?There were better ways to handle that.
Thats a statement a hostage is forced to make.
Refreshing to see imoWhile most of your rant is leftist fantasy, one assertion in your post is worth comment:
He couldn't care less about Ukraine. That's correct, nor should he. And if we really dig down, none of us care about Ukraine either. We do want to limit Russian expansion, but ultimately our concern is for America's interests.
One statement during the debacle was particularly telling by Trump. He said 'I'm not on Russia's side or Ukraine's side, I'm on America's side.'
This deal Trump is proposing offers Security for Ukraine in exchange for mineral rights/royalties/etc. This is simply Trump being opportunistic in the interest of America, in a way that happens to deter Russia from further incursion and gives Ukraine what they want, security, even if not as an official member of NATO.
I'm curious what zelenskyys problem with the actual deal is, I do understand the Trump/Z disdain for one another (Actually I don't really understand Trump's dislike of Z, but suspect it's more of a posture than anything).
Someone saw the photos of him looking "aghast".Thats a statement a hostage is forced to make.
Not dieing.Yeah, but what would they be getting in return? I haven't seen any details either way.
After all this, his only concern will be the TV ratings.
While most of your rant is leftist fantasy, one assertion in your post is worth comment:
He couldn't care less about Ukraine. That's correct, nor should he. And if we really dig down, none of us care about Ukraine either. We do want to limit Russian expansion, but ultimately our concern is for America's interests.
One statement during the debacle was particularly telling by Trump. He said 'I'm not on Russia's side or Ukraine's side, I'm on America's side.'
This deal Trump is proposing offers Security for Ukraine in exchange for mineral rights/royalties/etc. This is simply Trump being opportunistic in the interest of America, in a way that happens to deter Russia from further incursion and gives Ukraine what they want, security, even if not as an official member of NATO.
I'm curious what zelenskyys problem with the actual deal is, I do understand the Trump/Z disdain for one another (Actually I don't really understand Trump's dislike of Z, but suspect it's more of a posture than anything).
If I was Ukraine I'd want some assurances that Russia would be controlled. (which I haven't seen any details on) Minus that, hard to see the point.Not dieing.
I don't know, but I think NATO membership is unfortunately off the table. Actually I don't think the US was offering any kind of protection/guarantees to Ukraine.Well I would hope Trump would offer it, guess not, quick question does the US have veto power for NATO membership, I honestly don’t know
You get it.You actually believe he is this smart. He stepped on his dick on the international stage. He made a fool of himself.
MAGAs have to come to terms with the fact this is a stupid man.