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Zelenskyy/Trump press conference...

Hmm. Lots of rare minerals in Ukraine. Trillions of dollars, maybe. Zelensky should make a deal with European countries, blow Russia off the map, take over Moscow and split the spoils with his new friends, and live in peace.

p.s. And send a go fvck yourself note to U.S. Republicans with a box of rubles.
How many nukes are dropped in this scenario? Did you even think of that? I thought Putin was equal to Hitler. So Putin is going to lose all of Russia and not drop any nuclear weapons. Can you join reality and not live in fantasy land? I can't imagine the amount of destruction there would be in your scenario.
 
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You know nothing.

The Ukraine has been important to us for years. Think back and do some research about the region.

When the wall came down, every Russian republic became free. They ran to freedom.

We forged alliances intentionally with these countries, under Reagan and Bush.

”our people “ those weren’t my people. Those people are a disgrace to the US.
Of course Ukraine has been important to us, it's the biggest money laundering operation in the world, or it was. Probably a good reason why so many of our politicians got filthy rich, huh?
 
Yet when your presidents policies raised gas prices to $5 a gallon at one point, inflation over 9%, and interest rates over 7% he was just awesome.
Gas prices go up after under Trumps policies helped bankrupted a bunch of companies, your buddy Putin attacked Ukraine. I would take the temporary inflation over what I think is coming, and inflation had come back down. It’s not like Trump is lowering egg prices.
 
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I'm eyeing a R2R2R this fall, so I am very interested in your upcoming trip. Hoping you can share some details with us. Are you camping in the canyon or doing one of those crazy person nonstop hikes?
I’ll either find, or start, a hiking thread so as to not clutter this one. Will have a post shortly.
 
I watched the interview finally. I have very few issues with the way it went down. Zalenskyy needed to be more thankful and deferential. I agree that this should have played out in private but it didn't and I hope this all leads quickly back to Z understanding the situation he is in and Putin realizing it could only get worse for him. I'm willing to let this play out but this was unartful and alot of ongoing frustrations on both sides seem to have moved to the fore. Zalenskyy needed to come to us and bite his lip and make nice. FAFO. Lastly, wear a ****ing suit for chrissakes. This is the White House.
Elno gets a pass with the suit. Zelensky reminds Kranov and Couch F*cker what happened the last time they tried diplomacy with Poutine and they attack him. You can f*ck right off Gus. No excuses here when we see it with our own eyes.
 
Zalensky owned Biden because Ukraine has the dirt going back to when Joe was peddling influence as VP and got his boy on the board at Burisma. Joe had to bend over or Ukraine would produce receipts. USA shouldn't have to kiss Zalensky's ass to help them out. Take our help or don't. Europe now is starting to act like they want to help, but has done next to nothing for 3 years. We all know Europe doesn't have the stomach to really help. If they did they already would have.
 
Of course Ukraine has been important to us, it's the biggest money laundering operation in the world, or it was. Probably a good reason why so many of our politicians got filthy rich, huh?
Agreed - but Trump and the oligarchy of Putin and his Russian Mafia didn't like their percent of the cut, so now we have this Godfather mafia-esque drama playing out in real life.

Good for you siding with the worst of the Five Families
 
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Zalensky owned Biden because Ukraine has the dirt going back to when Joe was peddling influence as VP and got his boy on the board at Burisma. Joe had to bend over or Ukraine would produce receipts. USA shouldn't have to kiss Zalensky's ass to help them out. Take our help or don't. Europe now is starting to act like they want to help, but has done next to nothing for 3 years. We all know Europe doesn't have the stomach to really help. If they did they already would have.
You MAGA sure are dumb people.
 
Zalensky owned Biden because Ukraine has the dirt going back to when Joe was peddling influence as VP and got his boy on the board at Burisma. Joe had to bend over or Ukraine would produce receipts. USA shouldn't have to kiss Zalensky's ass to help them out. Take our help or don't. Europe now is starting to act like they want to help, but has done next to nothing for 3 years. We all know Europe doesn't have the stomach to really help. If they did they already would have.
Are you unaware of just how much the Europeans have done for Ukraine? The money, the weapons, the logistical support? The sanctions on Russia? The massive effort to find new sources of natural gas? Seriously Europe has done a ton and continues to do a ton.

Looks like they will have to go it alone.

I’m just worried that President Musk and his lapdog Trump will find a way to provide financial or even military support to Russia.
 
Zalensky owned Biden because Ukraine has the dirt going back to when Joe was peddling influence as VP and got his boy on the board at Burisma. Joe had to bend over or Ukraine would produce receipts. USA shouldn't have to kiss Zalensky's ass to help them out. Take our help or don't. Europe now is starting to act like they want to help, but has done next to nothing for 3 years. We all know Europe doesn't have the stomach to really help. If they did they already would have.
Boy I sure think US troops on the ground there and Biden pushing NATO membership would have been the outcome if your theory wasn't so blatantly laughable!

Barista slip something in your coffee this morning?
 
You understand there is no way Ukraine defeats Russia, right? What is the purpose of spending hundreds of millions of dollars in a proxy war and Zelensky continues to refuse to make a deal?
Russia's oil industry and military factories are being droned back decades. If you can't see Russia is being defunded faster than Ukraine with minimal risk then no explanation is going to make sense to you.
 
You understand there is no way Ukraine defeats Russia, right? What is the purpose of spending hundreds of millions of dollars in a proxy war and Zelensky continues to refuse to make a deal?

Z should take a deal that includes 1) giving mineral rights/revenue to the U.S. and 2) receive no security assurances?

Perhaps familiarize yourself with the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances (1994) to better understand how Ukraine has been f’d with such deals in the past.
 
But it's ok when the idiots from your side can sit in the middle of street protesting against fossil fuel and for the alphabet community stopping people from going to work and emergency services though.
You'll never find me defending stupidity - I would've put bullets in Minnesota riotors just as fast as the Jan 6 Neanderthals.

I may stop short of running over people sitting in the street, but I'd sure as hell get out and start a fight or two.
 
You think China and NK stand idlly by during this wet dream of yours?

Second, Europe doesnt have the stomach for this either. The only stomach they have is for getting the US to carry their water. Hell they can't even pay the money they should now.

Today's events get us a peace deal soon I predict. Z has to understand his position will get no stronger later than it at this very moment.
Would you stop whining about other countries paying their fair share if Germany and Canada moved all the way from 0.4% aid to 0.5% like the US?

 
See how you can uses this religous sher to justify anything. We should wage war and destroy Gaza, Russia, and anyone else who stands in our way.

What did God do to the guy who took ovee from Moses after his death?

Joshua 10:40-43
So Joshua conquered all the land: the mountain country and the South and the lowland and the wilderness slopes, and all their kings; he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel had commanded. And Joshua conquered them from Kadesh Barnea as far as Gaza, and all the country of Goshen, even as far as Gibeon. All these kings and their land Joshua took at one time, because the LORD God of Israel fought for Israel. Then Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, to the camp at Gilgal.
We are not under the OT life now. Unless you are Jewish.

Jesis destroyed Jewish leaders as the religious establishment of being self serving. He did not destroy .gov leaders. He made it clear for Peter to put away the sword. He had love and compassion for the abused, poor, and vulnerable.
 
Zalensky owned Biden because Ukraine has the dirt going back to when Joe was peddling influence as VP and got his boy on the board at Burisma. Joe had to bend over or Ukraine would produce receipts. USA shouldn't have to kiss Zalensky's ass to help them out. Take our help or don't. Europe now is starting to act like they want to help, but has done next to nothing for 3 years. We all know Europe doesn't have the stomach to really help. If they did they already would have.
I mean this with all my heart, go **** yourself you stupid, illiterate, twat waffle.

I will also add you stupid hillbilly MAGAs are fixing to find out a bunch of European intelligence agencies and likely Ukraine have major dirt on Trump and they now have zero need to hold it back. Probably also on other Republikan’s too with Putin cum on their chins. Pretty sure Vance and Lindsey are going to be outed very soon…along with several others. They are going to realize Kompromat is not just a tool of KGB.
 
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Gas prices go up after under Trumps policies helped bankrupted a bunch of companies, your buddy Putin attacked Ukraine. I would talk inflation over what I think is coming, and inflation had come back down. It’s not like Trump is lowering egg prices.
Your buddy Biden shouldn't have been floating the idea of supporting Ukraine to become a NATO country then, which we know Putin is totally against.

Sure Inflation had come down and interest now rates skyrocketed thanks to the FED raising them to fight Inflation. The Democrats fix a problem by creating another one, in their eyes that's good government, lol.
 
He should wear a suit and tie also. But at least he wore a suit coat over his t-shirt. Z shows up in a fvcking Henley. And you want respect? As they say in Jersey…Get outta here.

Why does he need to bite his lip? Because we have given him hundreds of billions of dollars that's why and without that he'd be out if power at best and dead at worst.

I think we should stop sending tax dollars and start asking people to write checks directly to the effort. As usual, leftists are more than willing to spend money as long as its someone else’s. Or are willing to spend their own money as long as that money forces richer people to send more.

I am NOT willing to spend a nickel more on this war or spill a drop of American blood on this stalemate Sorry not sorry.
Where was your outrage last week?

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The audience this was for was right in front of him rest assured.

Wrong on NATO. No chance that actually happens. Trump may not be a fan of its makeup and cost sharing but we will not leave. Zero chance.
You want to make a wager on the US pulling out of NATO?
 
You need to stop focusing on one military conflict, what happened yesterday is much bigger than whatever happens in Crimea. The US put the world on notice that it is always going to be, at most, 4 years away from doing a 180 on its allies. You cannot measure the magnitude of that by whatever minerals are in Ukraine that Trump wants, however many Russian and North Korean lives are lost, etc.

This is what happens when you have a President that likes to act like the owner of a used car dealership where every dollar on every transaction is more important than the bigger picture.
 
Your buddy Biden shouldn't have been floating the idea of supporting Ukraine to become a NATO country then, which we know Putin is totally against.

Sure Inflation had come down and interest now rates skyrocketed thanks to the FED raising them to fight Inflation. The Democrats fix a problem by creating another one, in their eyes that's good government, lol.
Why are you supporting Putin . . . just because Trump is in bed with him doesn't mean you do. Who cares what Putin wants, he has attacked Ukraine now twice. That alone should allow them entry into Nato. I won't agree with everything Biden did, but he brought stability and he stood up for other democratic countries and our allies. Says a lot more than Trump.

As to interest rates, they were artificially low since 2008. Sooner or later rates were going to jump. Even still they are not high by historical measures.
 
Lastly, wear a ****ing suit for chrissakes. This is the White House.

How 'bout you post your criticisms of Elno for every time he's shown up wearing a T-shirt.
And all the baseball caps Trump wears with campaign slogans.

Show us your list of "critical posts" on that, Cletus. Link them.
 
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