Thoroughly impresses by Carton's tournament. After watching all his matches, I am less concerned with 141 after the Turk injury. The kid is kid has some talent and never quits.
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He struggled a little early last year with it and then after the knee he could not get up and out. At this point I think he is still building lungs, strength and explosion to get up and out and Jensen is known for legging as well.
Speaking of Clark. I here lots of doom and gloom. Any official word on his injury? Is he expected to return, or not?
Sam was getting a lot of those push out stall calls when the rule first came out, it seems that now the emphasis is in you must allow your opponent to circle back in... don't reward sumo moves. I'm not judging one way or another but i think they have adjusted the call a bit.
I just assume that is the instinctive pessimism required to be a Hawkeye fan. Hope he is back by the dual with PSU
I think Stoll's struggle on bottom is because the people on top are heavy.
I agree for the most part; however, he's round of 12 at best right now. Needs to keep getting better, especially being more offensive in the first period.
WTF - find a new board to air the Festivus Grievances
So we go H2h with Nebbie at 125. Gilman v Lambert. Gilman has a couple wins over him in the past.
133- Nebbie has Montoya going against Richards. Laux been out.
141- Chad Red is going for 3rd. Carton placed 7th. Although I don't think Red is a point scorer. McCrystal probably was and he's out.
149- Jordan Shearer is out. We've got Brando in the finals.
157- Tyler Berger v Kemmerer.
165- Dustin Williams is out. Our scorer Gunther is out.
174- Micah Barnes is out. Meyer going for 3rd.
184- Their big gun Tim Dudley in the finals. Sam Brooks for 3rd.
197- Aaron Studebaker in the finals. Wilcke out.
Hwt- Nebraska has two Jensens at Hwt. One, David is out, the other Collin is going for 5th. Not sure who the scorer is.
I think Iowa is going to pull away quite a bit here.
Not quite sure I understand how 7th at the Midlands, where only 3 of the top 8 and 4 of the top 12 competed, and losing to #16 in the process, translates to possible round of 12.
Carton had an ok tournament. I feel better about him qualifying for the NCAAs now. But that's about it.
Anyone who's ever been underneath a fat chick can sympathize with Stoll, and even with two good legs!
133 it's not fair that Montoya has to wrestle Zane alone, we all know Zane's level would allow him to take on 2,3 maybe even 4 guys at a time without a struggle.
Pretty safe bet the returning NCAA qualifier and starter is scoring and not his backup.
A lot of people don't know this but Zane killed Montoya's father, he should prepare to die!!!
Very perceptive, thus my statement, "He's round of 12 at best right now."
Yeah I mean it is almost like one is a small, inexperienced HWT and the other is wrestling his first competitions since major knee surgery.
Thanks for keeping me honest! Seriously though, were kids mean to you when you were a kid?
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Precisely what I predicted when the rule was announced. No consistency in its application. Simple solution: The push-out rule. I think the rules committee will eventually pull their collective heads out and come around to this realization.
I'm not all that concerned. A heavyweight coming off an ACL repair who's not yet back into match shape should be expected to struggle some in the bottom position early on. I'm really impressed that Sam is going for 3rd. As his shape comes around and he trusts the knee more, I think we'll see his bottom game pick up quite a bit.
so for now it seems like a wrestler specific call. If a guy got the benefit before - he gets called. If a guy is unknown he gets screwed. Jeez the guy (Hall) just grabbed Sammy by the nuts every time he stood up and rushed him off the mat. Hall is ranked (i assume) - and he gets the calls ...
Not surprised...Kem is a STUD. I would also not be surprised if he gets a shot at Nolf for the championship. Him winning that match however would be a surprise. I like him a lot, you got a great one there....PA PROUD
Gilman, Laux, Carton, Sorensen, Kemmerer, Gunther, Meyer, Brooks, Wilcke, Stoll.
I'm with you WDM. I doubt he trusts the knee enough to try any explosive moves. Getting out from bottom would be pretty methodical at this point.
Go back to your own forum doosh
My take away from what I have seen so far is Iowa has sure as hell stepped up their game as compared to last couple of years. Alot more aggressive. Good job guys and am looking forward to watching BTN tonight. Meyer will get weatherspoon next time. Great wrestling Both Alex'es and can't wait till stoll wrestles nevills. Go Iowa- when you aren't wrestling Lions.
Can someone come up with a good explanation for a 3rd period ride out when a wrestler is down 6-0 and has 4 min of RT against him?
Welp - I'm pleasantly surprised at how well Stoll did.
And I'm half assed hoping he takes a MFF - and just returns for Jan 15 v OKST.
And then for PSU / OSU / Medbery ...
My way would be to go balls in on all meets / matches .. but that time era has changed
And I'm half assed hoping he takes a MFF - and just returns for Jan 15 v OKST.
And then for PSU / OSU / Medbery ...
My way would be to go balls in on all meets / matches .. but that time era has changed
Honestly, when you have been dominated on your feet you are hoping to wear the guy down and maybe catch him and put him on his back.
Agreed. A win or loss by him wouldn't be the difference maker for us in this tournament.
