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#1 Ferrari considering Iowa in top 5

Ferrari is likely a 174 and would be a great fit for us there. I don't think we see Gabe below 184 short for the weight or not. He has a thick build.
would love to see this match from a pure entertainment standpoint. two of the best technicians in high school right now.
 
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The video that was provided showing Arnold vs Naak on Saturday was fun to watch.

Arnold looked better than what I even imagined and he's built like a brick shithouse. That "shithouse" reference only shows my age. No disrespect intended.
 
The video that was provided showing Arnold vs Naak on Saturday was fun to watch.

Arnold looked better than what I even imagined and he's built like a brick shithouse. That "shithouse" reference only shows my age. No disrespect intended.
i hadn't watched much gabe since he committed and was struck by how much he's physically matured in the last year or so. he's gonna be a big ball of muscle by the time he sees the lineup.
 
i hadn't watched much gabe since he committed and was struck by how much he's physically matured in the last year or so. he's gonna be a big ball of muscle by the time he sees the lineup.
Considering how young he for his grade and vs most opponents this should make Hawk fans even more excited. Young man is still far from physically mature. Scary.
 
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Chittum 57, PK 65, Ferrari 74, Arnold 84. Yeah, that would be pretty damn solid.

Jesuroga 25 Ayala 33, block 41, BK heavy.

That’s a salty damn lineup.
Some DAMN good wrestlers in that group. How many of them do much wrestling from space? Would really LOVE to see that type recruited and cultivated more. Iowa really needs it because I think their current style is starting to get scouted and gameplanned against way too often...

If they can make that next step, it truly should help bridge the gap with PSU!
 
Some DAMN good wrestlers in that group. How many of them do much wrestling from space? Would really LOVE to see that type recruited and cultivated more. Iowa really needs it because I think their current style is starting to get scouted and gameplanned against way too often...

If they can make that next step, it truly should help bridge the gap with PSU!
When I think of someone with the ability to wrestle from space I think first and foremost about athletes. That lineup might be the most athletic lineup Iowa has put out in quite some time.
 
When I think of someone with the ability to wrestle from space I think first and foremost about athletes. That lineup might be the most athletic lineup Iowa has put out in quite some time.
Agreed. I am sure most can do it. I just wanted to know if they are already comfortable there. It is a lot easier to cultivate it then to full switch to a teaching philosophy that doesn’t seem to be part of the current Iowa mantra.

Terry has definitely shown that he can get the most out of his guys down low. A lot of that appears to come from cultivating his wrestlers’ strengths. Give him that ability to work with and I would love to see what some of his guys can do!
 
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Well considering what this staff did with Desanto I think it’s worth a shot. Question I have is what about Chittum? Does he go 157? Thought he was bigger than that…..
 
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Well considering what this staff did with Desanto I think it’s worth a shot. Question I have is what about Chittum? Does he go 157? Thought he was bigger than that…..
149 book it. Our lineup will be
Ayala
Teske
Woods
Chittum
Siebrecht
Kennedy
Brands/Swafford
Assad/Swafford
Transfer please (or Glazier/Franklin)
Cass
 
I said it once and I will keep saying it. You go ALL IN to get this kid! I took some heat for saying it so fire away because I will add this.......

IF you were to get this kid and

IF he is working out perfectly and

IF his dumb ass brother "gets off" You have a golden opportunity to possibly(!?!?) POSSIBLY(???) bring him in too. What I am saying is a long shot right now, MANY things would have to happen and go right!

BUT

Stranger things have happened and think of that line up. Chittum, Kennedy, Ferrari, Arnold, Ferrari, Krueter!!!!

I understand risks, I get it, most likely never happen! Still getting this younger kid should be a 100% GO! Then see how the rest plays out.
 
Why? Because his brother is a criminal piece of crap? My brother isn’t a criminal, but he is a bit of a douche bag. I would hate to be a judge based on him. That said, my dad is a great guy.

If he’s a good kid committed to keeping his nose clean, I have zero idea why we wouldn’t be happy to have him.

I also note that we are by far the best program on his list.
Wait, it’s yOuR BrOtHeR who is a bit of a douche?
 
This kid is really, really good. Does he have any issues? No, then you take him. His dad acts up in carver or elsewhere, boot him. His brother comes in with the chain gang, boot him. If he himself acts up, boot him. I assure you that even a great kid can make a mistake and ruin his life. If this kid hasn’t done anything like his brother has been accused of, then he’s still a good kid and deserves every opportunity he’s worked hard for. End of discussion.
 
i hadn't watched much gabe since he committed and was struck by how much he's physically matured in the last year or so. he's gonna be a big ball of muscle by the time he sees the lineup.
My niece is starting to wrestle at City High and her dad just met Gabe. Said two things:

1) one of the nicest and most respectful kids he has ever met.
2) Too bad he doesn’t have a neck, good God is he built.

Oh, and he is an Iowa St fan.
 
This kid is really, really good. Does he have any issues? No, then you take him. His dad acts up in carver or elsewhere, boot him. His brother comes in with the chain gang, boot him. If he himself acts up, boot him. I assure you that even a great kid can make a mistake and ruin his life. If this kid hasn’t done anything like his brother has been accused of, then he’s still a good kid and deserves every opportunity he’s worked hard for. End of discussion.
I’m unclear on who you are booting in the 4th and 5th sentences. The dad and older brother from being around the program or the kid?
 
I’m unclear on who you are booting in the 4th and 5th sentences. The dad and older brother from being around the program or the kid?
The dad and other brother. Only release this young lad if he himself does anything unbecoming. Otherwise, that’s on them. Not him.
 
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IF his dumb ass brother "gets off"
According to the pics that were posted on Twitter, he already did...
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This kid is really, really good. Does he have any issues? No, then you take him. His dad acts up in carver or elsewhere, boot him. His brother comes in with the chain gang, boot him. If he himself acts up, boot him. I assure you that even a great kid can make a mistake and ruin his life. If this kid hasn’t done anything like his brother has been accused of, then he’s still a good kid and deserves every opportunity he’s worked hard for. End of discussion.
Not so sure on the brother part?
According to the pics that were posted on Twitter, he already did...
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Well this could get really interesting now couldn't it? Stevenson was accused of worse as I remember it. Yet he was cleared and went on to having just about everyone giving him a full pass!?!?!

There are differences and some similarities to the situations both these kids were in. In my opinion, both acted like horses asses with antics that I do not approve of on the mat. I do not like ANY of the BS that seems to be more and more common place in sports at all levels now.


Some coaches obviously address it and make sure that their players get the message that it will not be tolerated. Other coaches you can tell do not. Obviously at the Pro level it has become a pure sh*t show! Unfortunately, it is all about the $$$$ and the new generation of dumb ass who actually watch the crap and support it, think it is so cool.

Shoot a basket, make a tackle, jump up and do the jive seems to be all the rage. It has trickled down and I now see it in youth sports believe it or not. It goes on and on and even when the jack ass won NCAAs and started flexing, I said it was BS and others on here and else where thought it was great!?!?!

All this being said, according to 82bordeaux, from what he saw on Twitter, the kid didn't get charged? Now who knows what is going on, but if you had a face to face pow wow and laid down the law. Something like

"Look, we like the young guy and want to offer him a FULL RIDE!!! We would also consider bringing in AJ. He would sign up for classes second semester. Live in a dorm. Go to classes, wrestle(practice ONLY), go back to his dorm and study. That is what he would do PERIOD!!! If he makes it through a semester, we will consider putting him on the team."
 
Worst thing bout him going to iowa, his family. That kid is going to be a huge factor for any team, everyone should want him.
You're saying his vocal family would not fit in at Carver Hawkeye?

BTW, Tom is great with parents. I'm sure he'd love AJ to come on down
 
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All this being said, according to 82bordeaux, from what he saw on Twitter, the kid didn't get charged? Now who knows what is going on, but if you had a face to face pow wow and laid down the law. Something like
Dude,
He had selfies of his junk and spooge on Twitter. I don't need to see a lot more. I think I'm usually pretty reasonable here. That said, I'm going to make fun of whatever team lets him wear their singlet. They'll deserve it.
As far as little brother goes, he deserves whatever chance his skill set offers him. He's done nothing to prevent that. But his family is coming along for the ride. No doubt about it.
 
Fans are fans and will always have an opinion. No matter what anyone on this board currently says if all 3 Ferrari boys were wearing black & gold everyone here would be cheering for them. Just facts
Personally, I find AJ Ferrari’s personality super grating. Legal issues aside, I just don’t like him and I would not cheer for him regardless of the colors he wears unless that also changed.
 
i have a hard time seeing aj in a singlet again unless his legal issues clear up. i also think he would hurt recruiting. his teammates at osu hated him. yes, he's an amazing talent, but there's a broader picture. if he has to be a package deal with the youngest brother, that's a very difficult choice. i probably lean no, but i'm glad i don't have to make it.
 
Fans are fans and will always have an opinion. No matter what anyone on this board currently says if all 3 Ferrari boys were wearing black & gold everyone here would be cheering for them. Just facts
I'd be embarrassed to have freshman Steveson (he was much better behaved the next couple years, IMO) on our team, and I'd be embarrassed to have AJ on our team acting the way he acted. That being said, I probably would end up cheering for him if he remained on the team because TnT wouldn't have ever let him continue his BS antics or they would have given him the boot.
 
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I'd be embarrassed to have freshman Steveson (he was much better behaved the next couple years, IMO) on our team, and I'd be embarrassed to have AJ on our team acting the way he acted. That being said, I probably would end up cheering for him if he remained on the team because TnT wouldn't have ever let him continue his BS antics or they would have given him the boot.
it's nice to think that our coaches are more virtuous than the rest because we like them, but they gave desanto chance after chance after chance after he acted out on the mat. ferrari's mat antics aren't a problem imo. i dislike them intensely. the reason he shouldn't be on the team is because what he does off the mat.
 
it's nice to think that our coaches are more virtuous than the rest because we like them, but they gave desanto chance after chance after chance after he acted out on the mat. ferrari's mat antics aren't a problem imo. i dislike them intensely. the reason he shouldn't be on the team is because what he does off the mat.
Ferrari is a lot more like PD3 than desanto imo. Everyone has to draw the line somewhere, I don't personally mind intensity/hard wrestling/shoving/etc. It's the peacocking, look at me, team 2nd stuff that drives me nuts. Like Steveson showboating while his team was down 20.
 
it's nice to think that our coaches are more virtuous than the rest because we like them, but they gave desanto chance after chance after chance after he acted out on the mat. ferrari's mat antics aren't a problem imo. i dislike them intensely. the reason he shouldn't be on the team is because what he does off the mat.
You are kidding right? What they did with DeSanto was pretty darn amazing! Yes, he had his moments but it is kind of well known that he was dealing with somethings that are not easy to control. He also continued to control his behavior better and better. I would like you to point out any Wrestler dealing with the same stuff who has even Wrestled D1, not to even mention, Wrestled D1 for IOWA and was a multi AA!!!!

I'll wait... While I am. I believe his point is exactly opposite of what he intended. IOWA brought in DeSantos, and it was not easy I am sure, but he and everyone else is better off for it!
Ferrari is a lot more like PD3 than desanto imo. Everyone has to draw the line somewhere, I don't personally mind intensity/hard wrestling/shoving/etc. It's the peacocking, look at me, team 2nd stuff that drives me nuts. Like Steveson showboating while his team was down 20.
I agree, that is why you would LAY DOWN THE LAW!!! "This is how we run the program! This is how you will act! This is what you will and will NOT do!!! Even the slightest slip up and you are gone!!!"

He certainly does not have to agree, and if he does not, you don;t even consider him. This is of course saying that there is even a chance that the coaches would want him and he would want to come?
 
If it means Iowa wins the national title over Penn State, sign whoever you need to. Hopefully a change of scenery and learning from past mistakes changes the guy. As long as it doesn't destroy team morale or set the program back, do what needs to be done to win now. I trust the Brands brothers to know what is best for the program and will support whoever they put on the mat.
 
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You're saying his vocal family would not fit in at Carver Hawkeye?

BTW, Tom is great with parents. I'm sure he'd love AJ to come on down
You are kidding right? What they did with DeSanto was pretty darn amazing! Yes, he had his moments but it is kind of well known that he was dealing with somethings that are not easy to control. He also continued to control his behavior better and better. I would like you to point out any Wrestler dealing with the same stuff who has even Wrestled D1, not to even mention, Wrestled D1 for IOWA and was a multi AA!!!!

I'll wait... While I am. I believe his point is exactly opposite of what he intended. IOWA brought in DeSantos, and it was not easy I am sure, but he and everyone else is better off for it!

I agree, that is why you would LAY DOWN THE LAW!!! "This is how we run the program! This is how you will act! This is what you will and will NOT do!!! Even the slightest slip up and you are gone!!!"

He certainly does not have to agree, and if he does not, you don;t even consider him. This is of course saying that there is even a chance that the coaches would want him and he would want to come?
You can lay down the law until the cows come home for malignant narcissists and nothing will change. It’s hardwired into their systems.
 
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