1st match -- winner never took a shot
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Yep, we start with a whimper. Kids being allowed to only counter wrestle is resulting in less and less shots
WHAT!!!
Which match were you watching. Drake took 4 legitimate shots, in deep on two of them. He almost had it won at the end of the 3rd period on a very nice double leg and that wasn't a counter at all.
And it was habat who got called for stalling and did so according to the rules. Drake while I admit wasn't working for a fall was simply erasing the riding time that Habat accured by blatant stalling not once but twice. Habat would have been called for it the 1st time but Drake went out of bounds.
Geez get some perspective.
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Which match were you watching. Drake took 4 legitimate shots, in deep on two of them. He almost had it won at the end of the 3rd period on a very nice double leg and that wasn't a counter at all.
And it was habat who got called for stalling and did so according to the rules. Drake while I admit wasn't working for a fall was simply erasing the riding time that Habat accured by blatant stalling not once but twice. Habat would have been called for it the 1st time but Drake went out of bounds.
Geez get some perspective.
This post was edited on 3/21 7:29 PM by thetigerman1981
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It's really what the sport has become. Aside from the few freak dominant guys, the answer under the current rules is stellar defense, control riding, and counter wrestling.
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Obviously you aren't a fan of the sport because your op said the winner never took a shot and I clearly pointed out to you that was false.
Again perspective. You were watching and I guess didn't see the 4 shots happen but I promise you they did, go back and look at it on replay if you wish.
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Again perspective. You were watching and I guess didn't see the 4 shots happen but I promise you they did, go back and look at it on replay if you wish.
This post was edited on 3/21 7:36 PM by thetigerman1981
Martinez might be the best freshman I have ever seen. His combination of motor, chain wrestling and explosiveness is breathtaking
Certainly doesn't appear to have any holes in his game. Not hard to imagine him being a 4 timer.
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This kid is SCARY good! Oh my God!
Realbuto is one heck of scrambler, and he got his butt kicked in most of them. Martinez is undefeated at 34-0, a Freshman, and had 25 bonus point wins I believe. Yikes!
I don't think he'd mess with moving up and putting his undefeated record on the line with a bigger guy, but would love to see him and Dieringer go at it. Perhaps the All-Star match? That would be something to see.
Though I disagree with you to a certain degree on the riding/stalling part, you nailed the OP on the first part. He most definitely took shots. Not sure what the OP was watching. It wasn't an exciting match but it wasn't a snoozefest like we've seen in the past, IMHO. Lost of good shot defense.
If you could, tell me which part of the riding/stallling that you disagree with and why? I'm curious to get your insights.
Just to preface that in my initial comments I mentioned that drake really wasn't working for a fall he was riding, and riding is a part of college wrestling which is why you get a point for it if you get the minute advantage. Its worth noting that Drake was allowed to ride the way he did due to the time advantage his opponent got for blatant stalling which he was called for.
So share with me your thoughts.
Just to preface that in my initial comments I mentioned that drake really wasn't working for a fall he was riding, and riding is a part of college wrestling which is why you get a point for it if you get the minute advantage. Its worth noting that Drake was allowed to ride the way he did due to the time advantage his opponent got for blatant stalling which he was called for.
So share with me your thoughts.
Matt Brown is about to show everyone what stalling on top looks like. For as much grief as Penn State fans like to give Iowa wrestlers, they don't do a good job of calling out their own.
Wilps probably would've beaten Evans too had he gotten that late take down against Brown.
Wilps is very flexible and would probably work to score one take down early on Evans and then stay away for the remaining two periods bau.
Brown probably gonna win this one because he avoids take downs with his size. It's equestrian feces.
Wilps is very flexible and would probably work to score one take down early on Evans and then stay away for the remaining two periods bau.
Brown probably gonna win this one because he avoids take downs with his size. It's equestrian feces.
Well if you want to go by the college rules of the game for wrestling it is as follows:
Stalling-Offensive and Defensive Position. Offensive and defensive
wrestlers shall make an attempt to sustain active wrestling and remain in the
center. The offensive and defensive stalling situations include:
5.9.3.1 The offensive wrestler does not aggressively attempt to break down
the opponent.
But if you apply the rule this way you would be nailing about 95% of the time the top wrestler is stalling. Habat did it, then Drake did it, if you go by the rulebook definition. And that is the way it is because of the current way that stalling is worded in college wrestling as opposed to NFHS rules, and because college rewards guys for riding, they are counterproductive.
Stalling-Offensive and Defensive Position. Offensive and defensive
wrestlers shall make an attempt to sustain active wrestling and remain in the
center. The offensive and defensive stalling situations include:
5.9.3.1 The offensive wrestler does not aggressively attempt to break down
the opponent.
But if you apply the rule this way you would be nailing about 95% of the time the top wrestler is stalling. Habat did it, then Drake did it, if you go by the rulebook definition. And that is the way it is because of the current way that stalling is worded in college wrestling as opposed to NFHS rules, and because college rewards guys for riding, they are counterproductive.
While I wasn't impressed with Drake's finals match, he's the only Missouri wrestler that showed up to win a championsip. I was certain he wouldn't make it to finals & not only did he prove me wrong but he racked up some bp on the way. Great way for him to go out as a senior.
College doesn't require working for a fall, only high school. College only requires to sustain active wrestling.
Lol and just as I say that, Brown gets taken down. And then Wilps chokes and loses on two penalty points in the final 13 seconds.
F***ing lucky ass Penn State mother f***ing wrestlers.
F***ing lucky ass Penn State mother f***ing wrestlers.
Terrible officiating again -- this one's on the assistant. He was in perfect position to see the locked hands but he didn't do it. Frankly, the head official had plenty of time to see it once he circled into position; can't believe he didn't call it.
This post was edited on 3/21 8:23 PM by artradley
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I thought it was a good call. It was the second time in a row he was being drug around the mat while holding onto an ankle. That's stalling
Dude, your wrestlers stall to win. Deal with it. You ended up losing/choking and costing Iowa a shot at the national title anyways by letting Snyder and Tomasello into the Finals too. Go complain about that instead....
LOL, so you can challenge something that the refs already have reviewed by challenge? Yeah right, like they are going to overturn a review call that they literally just looked at.
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