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2024 Lineup and Expectation

I think he debated all the other guys in his class about who to ask, they all went opposite, and he forgot the essence of the debate and failed to pull the trigger at all.
I think he asked a girl, she accepted and then he asked her if it was OK for his little brother to tag along and practice knife juggling in the back seat on the way to prom.
 
Classic.

It's a game of whack a mole where you never know how many holes you'll end up dealing with before you're told "Have a nice day."

BTW I am already on record stating he doesn't remember one post to the next, so I've come to expect no less.
I love how much my posts matter to you. I especially like that you mixed in yet another completely inaccurate assumption.

I feel like Wesley Snipes after really getting to know Robert DeNiro…
 
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Did you already forget that you counted Jesuroga?
I have no problem leaving him out. But, he is a rather unique situation. He didn’t de commit and go somewhere else. He decided to quit wrestling altogether. So it’s not like they lost him to another team. If he was going to wrestle it would have almost certainly been for Iowa.

But, still I never argued heavily for him and will concede him with no issue. The argument was more about them recruiting better and much more consistently over the years anyway. Jesuroga deciding he no longer wanted to wrestle doesn’t change that in my opinion…
 
Think fair but low end on several.

Ayala should do better if healthy
Task can not argue too much but would love to see him AA
Woods hell yea
Voinovich you would know better then me
Franek I believe will be better, or is it I hope?
Caliendo and/or Kennedy for 65/74 IF Brands does not win back his year? Would be happy with those places
184-197-Heavy, praying for a miracle and for getting Big Cass back!
Yeah, I really hope Ayala and Franek out perform my predictions. Ayala has to prove it and stay healthy. I think a 100% healthy Ayala is top 5 and a serious title contender. I went 5th for Franek because last year was the outlier. He did take 4th but the previous 3 years he failed to reach the podium. I think Shapiro and Haines make the finals and Robb, Teemer, Franek, Lewan, Andonian and Scott are all about on the same level. Cardenas and Chittum will be right there close to that 2nd tier as well.
 
Now here are my predictions with the gamblers in the line up.
125: Ayala-7th
133: Teske-rd12
141: Woods-1st
149: Voinivich-8th
157: Franek-5th
165: Caliendo-5th
174: Kennedy-5th
184: Brands-5th
197: Assad(he could take an olympic red shirt)Franklin/Glazier-1 maybe 2 wins
285: Cassioppi-2nd
Team: 2nd
I like this much better
 
Now here are my predictions with the gamblers in the line up.
125: Ayala-7th
133: Teske-rd12
141: Woods-1st
149: Voinivich-8th
157: Franek-5th
165: Caliendo-5th
174: Kennedy-5th
184: Brands-5th
197: Assad(he could take an olympic red shirt)Franklin/Glazier-1 maybe 2 wins
285: Cassioppi-2nd
Team: 2nd
My thoughts as well. Think this lineup scores Iowa the most points at NCAAs
 
Now here are my predictions with the gamblers in the line up.
125: Ayala-7th
133: Teske-rd12
141: Woods-1st
149: Voinivich-8th
157: Franek-5th
165: Caliendo-5th
174: Kennedy-5th
184: Brands-5th
197: Assad(he could take an olympic red shirt)Franklin/Glazier-1 maybe 2 wins
285: Cassioppi-2nd
Team: 2nd
Brands 5th up at 184 is a big ask. I think being at the right weight is important for his style.

Also something to keep in mind, we've generally seen regression for 6th+ year guys, not just at Iowa, but across the country. We shouldn't be shocked if guys like Brands and Cass have down years, especially with the suspension turmoil that's been over their heads for months. Assad's only a 5th year, but he's been through the ringer with injuries his whole career, so I'd add him too.
 
Brands 5th up at 184 is a big ask. I think being at the right weight is important for his style.

Also something to keep in mind, we've generally seen regression for 6th+ year guys, not just at Iowa, but across the country. We shouldn't be shocked if guys like Brands and Cass have down years, especially with the suspension turmoil that's been over their heads for months. Assad's only a 5th year, but he's been through the ringer with injuries his whole career, so I'd add him too.
Nelson beat Plott last year for 5th. Plott is currently ranked 4th at 184. IMO 184 will be the weakest weight in the country with Brooks and Hidlay up at 197. Nelson has wrestled this weight before. He's not your typical 6th year senior who has been wrestling since they were 5. Nelson started wrestling late, I want to say around 6th grade, I could be wrong. Look at the current rankings at 184 and tell me you don't think Brands can make the podium.
 
Nelson beat Plott last year for 5th. Plott is currently ranked 4th at 184. IMO 184 will be the weakest weight in the country with Brooks and Hidlay up at 197. Nelson has wrestled this weight before. He's not your typical 6th year senior who has been wrestling since they were 5. Nelson started wrestling late, I want to say around 6th grade, I could be wrong. Look at the current rankings at 184 and tell me you don't think Brands can make the podium.
Not out of the realm of possibility. 184 has really cleared out. Alternatively, the last match he wrestled at 184, he got majored by Gavin Kane, who is ranked 6th.

If Nelson goes 184, he probably starts the season ranked 4th, but when you look down the list of guys below you see a lot of guys who I would probably favor head to head, but don't have the NCAA results because 184 has been really deep for a long time.
 
The other factor is his style. As a bruiser and positional wrestler, it's extra tough to string together a whole tournament against bigger opponents.
 
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I think Franek takes 3rd. I don't see him beating Shapiro or Haines (and Haines could go up) - but everyone else?

He's gotten a LOT better in the short time he's been in Iowa City. That first year jump in the Iowa room is real. (pun intended)
 
Now here are my predictions with the gamblers in the line up.
125: Ayala-7th
133: Teske-rd12
141: Woods-1st
149: Voinivich-8th
157: Franek-5th
165: Caliendo-5th
174: Kennedy-5th
184: Brands-5th
197: Assad(he could take an olympic red shirt)Franklin/Glazier-1 maybe 2 wins
285: Cassioppi-2nd
Team: 2nd
I hope Tony wins it all, but 3rd seems more realistic given Kerk and Hendrickson (pinned Tony) are back. Which one do you think he beats?
 
Gable is coming back too.

We really need Tony to take a jump. Gotta beat Hendrickson and need to beat that dumb dumb Kerkvliet. Yonger is going to be a bigger test than most of you seem to think. He'll be over 235 and he's stupid athletic. That hasn't been a good thing for Cass in the past.

And Michigan is about to get Gomez. The race for 2nd is on. Ayala needs to make the finals.
 
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I hope Tony wins it all, but 3rd seems more realistic given Kerk and Hendrickson (pinned Tony) are back. Which one do you think he beats?
I think Kerk is more of an issue for Cass.
Regular season is going to be huge for Kerk, Hendricks and Cass. Whoever gets the one seed gets to sit while the two others battle it out in the semi.
 
I’ll have to ignore the dumb dumb comment. Must be some inside joke I’m not privy to.

Seems to me Lucas is going to have a say in all this. Maybe he is training with Paris , maybe he grows and strengthens a bit . Should be interesting .

I don’t see gable returning but I have no knowledge just seems risky to me. If he does come back I will root mightily for anyone to beat him Including Cass. He isn’t invincible.

And I don’t know maybe it’s just me but Wyatt just looks like a beast . When Kerk took him down it reminded me of Cassar toppling Gable.
 
I’ll have to ignore the dumb dumb comment. Must be some inside joke I’m not privy to.

Seems to me Lucas is going to have a say in all this. Maybe he is training with Paris , maybe he grows and strengthens a bit . Should be interesting .

I don’t see gable returning but I have no knowledge just seems risky to me. If he does come back I will root mightily for anyone to beat him Including Cass. He isn’t invincible.

And I don’t know maybe it’s just me but Wyatt just looks like a beast . When Kerk took him down it reminded me of Cassar toppling Gable.
I’m guessing you don’t realize the inside nature of this poster. You have been gifted with information by someone in the know. Better to thank than insul then, imo.
 
I’ll have to ignore the dumb dumb comment. Must be some inside joke I’m not privy to.

Seems to me Lucas is going to have a say in all this. Maybe he is training with Paris , maybe he grows and strengthens a bit . Should be interesting .

I don’t see gable returning but I have no knowledge just seems risky to me. If he does come back I will root mightily for anyone to beat him Including Cass. He isn’t invincible.

And I don’t know maybe it’s just me but Wyatt just looks like a beast . When Kerk took him down it reminded me of Cassar toppling Gable.

I’m guessing you don’t realize the inside nature of this poster. You have been gifted with information by someone in the know. Better to thank than insul then, imo.

Eh. I don't think he was insulting. But the dumb dumb comment has to do with Kerk's oft in-match decision making. He just makes some weird mental mistakes for a guy who's wrestled as long as he has and is as good as he is.
 
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Eh. I don't think he was insulting. But the dumb dumb comment has to do with Kerk's oft in-match decision making. He just makes some weird mental mistakes for a guy who's wrestled as long as he has and is as good as he is.
Nope wasn’t meant to be insulting at all . Guess I’m lost as to what could have been construed as insulting.

I figured you were either just calling him dumb as an iowa fan , which as a penn state fan I will just ignore, or your making fun of his parks and rec major lol.

From what I’ve witnessed when I watch him wrestle , he usually just loses when he is gassed or just over matched.
 
Nope wasn’t meant to be insulting at all . Guess I’m lost as to what could have been construed as insulting.

I figured you were either just calling him dumb as an iowa fan , which as a penn state fan I will just ignore, or your making fun of his parks and rec major lol.

From what I’ve witnessed when I watch him wrestle , he usually just loses when he is gassed or just over matched.

LOL on the parks and rec major. Had no idea. I wouldn't graffiti his parks.

Him gassing has a lot to do with his decision making. He'll over shoot and overtry in some really weird positions.
 
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Eh. I don't think he was insulting. But the dumb dumb comment has to do with Kerk's oft in-match decision making. He just makes some weird mental mistakes for a guy who's wrestled as long as he has and is as good as he is.
Thanks. I get it now.
 
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Nope wasn’t meant to be insulting at all . Guess I’m lost as to what could have been construed as insulting.

I figured you were either just calling him dumb as an iowa fan , which as a penn state fan I will just ignore, or your making fun of his parks and rec major lol.

From what I’ve witnessed when I watch him wrestle , he usually just loses when he is gassed or just over matched.
I’m sorry. I missed the first dumb dumb statement by vhsalum and took your comment out of context.
 
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