With the two big freshman and the guys already committed for next year, PF is definitely not a position of need. BUT, I have waited for a while for Fran to get some physical, athletic guys (although the Murrays more than held their own and were incredibly talented). Cook seemed to be that kind of guy, but his motor seemed to be in idle more often than not. Assuming the PGs are going to live up to high expectations, and Dix can play 3 positions, I think Iowa's biggest need is to find a stud shooting guard in this class or next (if Tony is back). Still hoping for a commitment, and an added guard with experience from the portal, assuming someone leaves.
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So wait all along you've been bragging about knowing everything about the situation. Then said you've seen the commitment video to Iowa and they dropped a bag to get him. And now you're guessing hes going to SDSU? Lol ok
I don't understand why that's hard to believe--if you go on the UNLV board, this guy is clearly in the know over there. He broke their other recent 7 footer that committed on Twitter before the commitment.
Is it weird if Compton made a commitment video and decides to go elsewhere? Yeah. But it's likely not the first time that has happened--recruitments in basketball seem to change on a dime constantly. Just last week, Passmore was considered a lock to Arkansas and then all it took was one in-home visit from Kansas to change that and he committed there yesterday. There is stories like that happening everywhere in college hoops recruiting.
HH80, I agree. I appreciated Lobby's take on Compton. I do think he and his family were surprised by Iowa City and the campus. I've been to all BIG campuses and Iowa is near the top. Unfortunately the state gets bad press from the media all too much.
Can't blame the young man for wanting to stay closer to home. He looked awfully good in the black and gold though.
I'm still holding out a slimmer of hope that Fran can close. The fact that it seems like Compton was close to committing once, makes me think that they can maybe still get this across the finish line in the 11th hour. There's also been no "crystal balls" or other expert predictions placed for Compton either which makes me think he hasn't finalized anything
I'm certainly not going to hold my breathe over it, but I wouldn't completely write it off just yet either.
I have a hunch if Compton says no. Fran will still add one more this fall. Similar to how the NJ thing happened last year.
Heard from my brother-in-law who knows alot of folks in Iowa City that there may be another new name in the mix. I still like Wilkens, he would be an Iowa kid who gives 110% all the time.
Will Fran use it or bank it for a portal player?
Will Fran use it or bank it for a portal player?
I agree--there's a guard from Florida with some good mid major offers that Spurlock and Gatens followed semi-recently on Twitter that I think is a possible option they pivot to.
If they don't go and get another high school prospect, there's a good chance we'll have some big openings to fill via the portal come the spring if Tony and Patrick do decide this is their last year like they currently are saying.
I think the guard makes the most sense. My thoughts Fran would prefer one to two openings at most for spring.
Dayton, Florida Atlantic, and VCU are good BB schools. If those offers are legit. Interesting.
Yeah he has some really good mid majors. He's taken some unofficials to FAU, Murray State and Hofstra last year, but he hasn't visited anywhere this fall.
His film is kind of like a taller Tony Perkins. Maybe a little better 3 point shooter than Tony. More of a slashing guard with a lot of bounce. And a pretty nice mid range pull-up game.
How much was in Kansas' bag?
For quite some time Kansas has been the king when it comes to pay for play. When Hunter Dickinson came out and said that Michigan was not paying him enough and that Kansas outbid Kentucky, that said a lot.Honestly, with all the money getting thrown around, I am impressed with the job Fran has done with recruiting.
I am not holding my breath on Compton and I am assuming Tony & PMac will be done after this season (if either come back, that would be a pleasant surprise and they'd eat up 1 or both of the remaining scholarships). And who knows if Mulvey sticks around for his senior season.
Here are where things stand right now; note that we only have 3 guards, so hopefully Tony considers coming back.
2024-2025 Roster (11 on Scholarship; 2 scholarships available):
FRESHMEN: 2 players
6'7" PF Cooper Koch
6'8" PF Chris Tadjo
SOPHOMORES: 4 players
6"10" C Owen Freeman
6'0" PG Brock Harding
6'7" SF Pryce Sandfort
6'8" PF Ladji Dembele
JUNIORS: 2 players
6'3" PG Dasonte Bowen
6'5" SG Josh Dix
SENIORS: 3 players
6'7" F Payton Sandfort
6'11" C Riley Mulvey
6'9" F/C Even Brauns
Yeah if Mulvey still can't get on the court this year, it's time to assist him in finding a new home where he can get some minutes. Great kid and good teammate, but at somepoint you gotta face reality here. And I finding a new place where Riley can go and be the guy is mutally beneficial for everyone.
In my head, I see it as Compton as a luxury take that would fill Riley's spot. And if Compton stays out west, I think getting a guard makes way more sense. Then for Tony & Patrick, you can still leave the light on for them and just plan to bring in at least 1 other guard via the portal if one or both decide it's time to hang it up.
And honestly, there are a lot of good guard options in the portal every year--especially if all we are looking at is depths pieces. There are significantly more guards than there are bigs. So hopefully Iowa has more success in that department.
How is that mutually beneficial for everyone if Mulvey loves being in the team and wants to finish his degree at Iowa? I don’t know him so can’t speak to those, but just because the fans may want it doesn’t mean that is best for everyone. Can’t play 13 (ok so it seems like Fran tries to at times, or at least more than many coaches) so practice players add value
I genuinely do not mean this to be flippant, but am curious:
When was the last time Fran won a long, contested recruiting battle for a solidly ranked kid?
It feels like Fran gets kids who commit early, or not at all.
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I mean if that's what he wants, then sure. I don't think Fran is the type of coach to just kick someone off the team that wants to be here and hasn't done something to negatively impact the program. I would also add that most student athletes finish degrees in 3 years due to having to take summer classes. I don't personally know what Riley is studying, but like I said, most finish in 3 and take grad school classes if they want or take the bare minimal caseload their senior year.
But I do believe that at the end of the day, players want to play. Maybe that's not Riley's motivations. But he would get real starter minutes in a lot of mid major or low major spots if he wants them. I would think that's a pretty enticing option for 99% of players--and we have seen that countless times here at Iowa recently where an upperclassman who isn't playing goes and becomes a starter at a low major. Don't see why Riley would be different.
What is your definition for a long, contested recruiting battle? Compton visited less than 2 weeks ago. Is that supposed to be considered a long time in-between visit and commitment? Because there is quite a few players that fit your bill if that's your definition.
Probably the guys who were most contested in the Fran era is Koch (I get it, he's a legacy but he did visit a lot of different Big Ten schools), Freeman (probably doesn't fit your bill of long, but he did take a Wisconsin visit in-between our visit and commitment), Bowen, Garza and Cook.
Dembele also visited some other schools after Iowa last year and didn't commit to Iowa until a month after he visited.
Cook was fairly highly sought after and it took awhile for him to come around
Unless an Iowa coach is on here anonymously saying Riley is not going to see any minutes this year or ever, I'm going to continue to think that his time is this year. When he has been given the few minutes of playing time, he has done well in rebounding, setting screens, and running the floor, he has not been a bust by any means.
I'm not giving up on him like so many others on here that believe he's worthless. You can't teach height and at or near 7 feet with long arms he's definitely the tallest player on Iowa's roster.
I'd still start him at center with Krikke at the power forward and see how that goes at least at the start of the non-conference season.
If he doesn't fit in or seems lost, then so be it, but he hasn't been given a chance of extended minutes because of Garza, the Murray twins, and Fran hitting the portal and bringing in Rebraca.
He deserves a chance to play and show what he has and this year is his make or break year.
I'm not giving up on him like so many others on here that believe he's worthless. You can't teach height and at or near 7 feet with long arms he's definitely the tallest player on Iowa's roster.
I'd still start him at center with Krikke at the power forward and see how that goes at least at the start of the non-conference season.
If he doesn't fit in or seems lost, then so be it, but he hasn't been given a chance of extended minutes because of Garza, the Murray twins, and Fran hitting the portal and bringing in Rebraca.
He deserves a chance to play and show what he has and this year is his make or break year.
I never bragged about knowing everything about the situation. I simply stated I do know whats going on to an extent. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and just going to assume that you're salty right now which made you comment what you did. I'll also assume that you do know how the landscape of college basketball works and things change daily if not hourly. There is an Iowa commitment video. Does that mean that he could have changed his mind since then? Yes. UNLV talks to him a lot, almost daily. SDSU talks to him almost daily.
Like others have said, I am in the know and broke UNLV's commitment last week before any media outlet did. I also broke DJ Thomas' commitment and hinted at it weeks before because I was there when it happened. I also broke James Evans' commitment after he gave me permission to. I am in the room for these conversations.
All in all, I'm just here to deliver the news that I have heard, good or bad. I thought my intel on Compton would be of interest to this board.
Thank you @GunnerHawk @HawkHoops80! Appreciate the kind words!
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Thanks for sharing,
I was hopeful we would get his commitment. He and Cook have similar games. He would have been a great finisher in Fran's fast break offense.
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Thanks for all your insight here. Really fascinating getting a feel for how these things work.
One question, for a guy like Compton (or DJ Thomas or James Evans) what do you think the main factor is for getting those guys to commit? You mentioned SDSU's run in the tourney was a factor. Iowa entered late and locked up a big NIL deal for him. Compton had to be certainly influenced playing with some of these guys in AAU. Is there something that sticks out?
You're welcome and I appreciate the words!
Its different for every recruit. Sometimes their family takes a backseat, other times the family is very involved and gives input and may even gently push towards one school. Some want promised PT, NIL, proximity to home, playing with HS teammates/AAU teammates, jerseys, how "cool" the school appears to be.
In terms of Compton, DJ put it on the record that he wanted him and Evans at UNLV and was going to recruit them hard. I'm sure that had to make Compton feel good. Evans and Compton played on SFG 16U together so theyre close as well and Evans has talked to him some. I couldnt tell you exactly what the main thing is for Compton when choosing a school though.
Overall, I think the main factor for a lot of recruits is the feeling they get. It's just like a regular person. Sometimes we like the things we like just because it makes us feel some type of way.
"The Wootten Showcase is underway with shooting drills.
No college coaches are allowed.
Iowa's Fran McCaffery is here because his son, Jack, is participating in the camp." -From an Indiana message board.
The Showcase happens to be in Vegas in conjunction with the Border League.
*insert Brian Windhorst "Now why is that" meme here*
No college coaches are allowed.
Iowa's Fran McCaffery is here because his son, Jack, is participating in the camp." -From an Indiana message board.
The Showcase happens to be in Vegas in conjunction with the Border League.
*insert Brian Windhorst "Now why is that" meme here*
I'm pretty sure Riley was among the honor students recognized at one of the football games. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a degree by years end.
Thanks lobby for your input. It seems every time an athlete changes his mind some feel the need to play the cynic.
He's playing in the Border League in Las Vegas this weekend. Big event with a lot of the best schools in the country playing on ESPN--his high school is playing in the "B" event so I don't think any of his games will be televised though.
Since Fran is at the Wooten Camp in Las Vegas with Jack, I suspect he will be having an in-home with the Comptons and probably staying to do some scouting/recruiting at the Border League.
Guess the LSU thing is still up in the air then. And this could drag out into November.
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From Trilly Donavon:
Pharaoh Compton
Compton is rumored to announce a decision this weekend. Iowa and San Diego State are the teams to watch here.(This has lined up with what Lobby has been saying for a while now)
As I said last week, he is making a decision this weekend. LSU and Tennessee were never real contenders. Thanks for the credit @HawkHoops80
