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24 hours later, a deep breath, season recap and state of the program

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First off, for those of you who think Fran should move on, or (cough), be fired…that is laughable. I mean with all of those Big 10 championship and NCAA final 4 banners hanging in Carver, we have to keep our reputation going, right? (insert sarcasm).

Some of you obviously have short memories and don’t recall Todd Lickliter walking the sidelines and ‘Little Lick’ stroking three-pointers with 4,000 people watching. Or Steve Alfraud, who divided a University and its fan base like no other coach could, by just being himself.

Historically speaking, Fran has had a good 4-5 year run @ Iowa. Where was the program at when Fran arrived? Maybe at its lowest point in 50-years?

For reference, Dr. Tom’s best run at Iowa was stringing along 5 consecutive 20 win seasons during his last 5 seasons, but two of those seasons ended in NIT berths due to the powder-puff scheduling. The good Doctor had some peaks and valleys along the way, going 12-16 in 89/90 and 11-16 in 93/94.

Fran has 4 consecutive 20 win seasons, 3 NCAA berths and 1 NIT. Fran is here, will be here and he has earned the right to a contract extension in my opinion. A handful of tough losses does not define a season, nor does it define the man leading your program. Sure, Fran has earned the right to be criticized as that is the role he has accepted. But he recruits solid citizens and student athletes. Players stay because they want to play for Fran. Considering how many schools have become ‘transfer-out U’, Iowa has remained resilient from the transfer bug, primarily because of the guy you have as your leader.



Season Recap: In my mind, we exceeded expectations based upon what we all thought back on November 1st. While we can always say ‘what could have been’, at the end of day we didn’t have the personnel to keep things going like they were in mid-January. Teams get hot, teams get cold. Nearly every team goes through it and we got cold (mostly shooting), at the end of the season versus the beginning of the season. Our guards were exposed for what they were, average Power conference guards who were not able to execute and deliver at crunch time.

Worst Loss of the season: @ Iowa State. 8 point lead with 1 minute 40 seconds left and the ball was a tough one to swallow (Maybe not as bad as UNI’s meltdown against A&M), but it’s a game Iowa should have put away.

Best win of the season: @ Michigan State. The Breslin Center had been a house of horrors for about 2 decades and coming away with a decisive double-digit win was a great feeling.

When I look back on the careers of our 4 seniors: Adam Woodbury. Over-recruited & over-hyped. This is not a personal attack on Adam, but having an AAU coaching background myself I felt that he had limitations coming out of high-school, especially on the offensive end. I think you can say he improved a little each year, but he never became the all-conference or even all-American player some Hawk Fans though they were getting when he signed. I will remember Adam for being a physical presence on the defensive end and became a good rebounder his senior season.

Mike Gesell-I think Mike hit his ceiling during his Soph/Junior seasons. He probably could have been a better scorer his senior season but was asked to do different things. I felt coming out of High School, Mike had a higher ceiling than Woodbury, but he didn’t improve during his last 2 years.

Anthony Clemmons-Obviously our best defender. Had a good freshman year followed by a sophomore slump. Had some solid moments, then some bi-polar moments during his career. I will remember Anthony as being a tough defender, more of a role player with average guard skills but a guy who stuck with the program when he could have transferred after a sub-par year.

Jarrod Uthoff-A guy who transferred in as a role player with high-potential, paid his own way to be a Hawk and showed improvement each year. Earned first team All-Big 10 and single handedly won several games for us during his senior season. Probably the most well-rounded player at Iowa in 20-years? When I think back on this year, he really struggled the last 10 games to find his rhythm. Forcing shots, versus driving to the hoop were a complaint of mine. He will be missed next year.



Speaking of Next Year: Losing the nucleus of 4 senior starters will obviously be challenging. The team will look much different next Fall with Peter Jok leading the way. There are way too many unknowns at this juncture to throw out a prediction, but I think an NIT berth should be a reasonable goal.

Point Guards-Guessing it’s going to be a 2-headed monster next year with Fleming and Williams. While Fleming didn’t get enough playing time to base much analysis, Williams looks like he has some potential. 6-5 and fairly slender, he needs to hit the weight room. He did have some moments later in the year, so I think there is a solid future for him after some growing pains.

Red Shirts- Moss and Hutton. Not sure what to think as these two seemed to be the more highly touted recruits coming out of high school last year, but in hindsight a redshirt probably will do them both some good. I think they will add some athleticism to the program, which will be much needed.

Peter Jok-Not much analysis needed. He will need some guys to produce around him to continue his success.

Dale Jones- I wonder what Iowa could have done this year with Dale as the 3rd scoring option? Maybe he is the 2nd go-to-guy next year. Hoping he comes back from his injury.

Nicholas Baer- Hustle, hustle hustle. Would be nice to find a scholarship for him as I feel he has earned it. Eat and eat often this Summer.

Ahmad Wagner-Has the body to be a strong presence in the paint. Needs to work on his post moves and short range jumper.

Dom Uhl-He has shown improvement in many areas, but one focus should be finishing near the basket. Probably hit 30% or less in the paint.

Brady Ellingson-Had his opportunities, but if you are a 3 point shooter and can’t hit open shots, you’re playing time will go away which it did. Probably has some decisions to make.

Newbies: Pemsyl, Kreiner Bohannon and Cook. While 3 of the 4 are adding size to the program It’s unrealistic to think that anyone of them will be a difference maker next year. Cook is probably the best candidate to play right away and 2 of the other 3 could be redshirt candidates.



If I had to pencil in next year’s starters: I would say; Christian Williams, Peter Jok, Dale Jones, Dom Uhl and Ahmad Wagner. (Maybe insert Fleming for Jones, for more ball handling)

Nicholas Baer as your 6th man, then Andrew Fleming, Tyler Cook, Moss and Hutton complete your 10 man rotation.

Redshirts-Pemsyl or Kreiner, Bohannon if Ellingson stays.

State of the Program: Despite getting embarrassed by Villanova, my glass is still half-full on the program. Would Tyler Ulis running the show have made a difference? Maybe? Maybe not? Either way, that's how muc 1 guy can make a difference. I think the coaching staff will remain unchanged as I think we have a solid nucleus of diverse coaches.

Next year will be challenging with a lot of younger, un-proven players giving a lot of minutes. I think we will be more athletic, but inexperienced. As you know, anything is possible in basketball as 1-2 guys can make a huge difference, but another 20 win season is highly unlikely.

Looking beyond 2016-17, we obviously have Connor and Weiskamp coming in, with other scholarships open. I like Fran’s recruiting methodology. We went up against the big boys with Ulis, but lost out in the end. Same with Tyler Cook and we won that battle. I don’t expect Fran to shy away of going after the big fish, but then again finding the guy who is maybe under-recruited that can be developed into a solid player.
 
First off, for those of you who think Fran should move on, or (cough), be fired…that is laughable. I mean with all of those Big 10 championship and NCAA final 4 banners hanging in Carver, we have to keep our reputation going, right? (insert sarcasm).

Some of you obviously have short memories and don’t recall Todd Lickliter walking the sidelines and ‘Little Lick’ stroking three-pointers with 4,000 people watching. Or Steve Alfraud, who divided a University and its fan base like no other coach could, by just being himself.

Historically speaking, Fran has had a good 4-5 year run @ Iowa. Where was the program at when Fran arrived? Maybe at its lowest point in 50-years?

For reference, Dr. Tom’s best run at Iowa was stringing along 5 consecutive 20 win seasons during his last 5 seasons, but two of those seasons ended in NIT berths due to the powder-puff scheduling. The good Doctor had some peaks and valleys along the way, going 12-16 in 89/90 and 11-16 in 93/94.

Fran has 4 consecutive 20 win seasons, 3 NCAA berths and 1 NIT. Fran is here, will be here and he has earned the right to a contract extension in my opinion. A handful of tough losses does not define a season, nor does it define the man leading your program. Sure, Fran has earned the right to be criticized as that is the role he has accepted. But he recruits solid citizens and student athletes. Players stay because they want to play for Fran. Considering how many schools have become ‘transfer-out U’, Iowa has remained resilient from the transfer bug, primarily because of the guy you have as your leader.



Season Recap: In my mind, we exceeded expectations based upon what we all thought back on November 1st. While we can always say ‘what could have been’, at the end of day we didn’t have the personnel to keep things going like they were in mid-January. Teams get hot, teams get cold. Nearly every team goes through it and we got cold (mostly shooting), at the end of the season versus the beginning of the season. Our guards were exposed for what they were, average Power conference guards who were not able to execute and deliver at crunch time.

Worst Loss of the season: @ Iowa State. 8 point lead with 1 minute 40 seconds left and the ball was a tough one to swallow (Maybe not as bad as UNI’s meltdown against A&M), but it’s a game Iowa should have put away.

Best win of the season: @ Michigan State. The Breslin Center had been a house of horrors for about 2 decades and coming away with a decisive double-digit win was a great feeling.

When I look back on the careers of our 4 seniors: Adam Woodbury. Over-recruited & over-hyped. This is not a personal attack on Adam, but having an AAU coaching background myself I felt that he had limitations coming out of high-school, especially on the offensive end. I think you can say he improved a little each year, but he never became the all-conference or even all-American player some Hawk Fans though they were getting when he signed. I will remember Adam for being a physical presence on the defensive end and became a good rebounder his senior season.

Mike Gesell-I think Mike hit his ceiling during his Soph/Junior seasons. He probably could have been a better scorer his senior season but was asked to do different things. I felt coming out of High School, Mike had a higher ceiling than Woodbury, but he didn’t improve during his last 2 years.

Anthony Clemmons-Obviously our best defender. Had a good freshman year followed by a sophomore slump. Had some solid moments, then some bi-polar moments during his career. I will remember Anthony as being a tough defender, more of a role player with average guard skills but a guy who stuck with the program when he could have transferred after a sub-par year.

Jarrod Uthoff-A guy who transferred in as a role player with high-potential, paid his own way to be a Hawk and showed improvement each year. Earned first team All-Big 10 and single handedly won several games for us during his senior season. Probably the most well-rounded player at Iowa in 20-years? When I think back on this year, he really struggled the last 10 games to find his rhythm. Forcing shots, versus driving to the hoop were a complaint of mine. He will be missed next year.



Speaking of Next Year: Losing the nucleus of 4 senior starters will obviously be challenging. The team will look much different next Fall with Peter Jok leading the way. There are way too many unknowns at this juncture to throw out a prediction, but I think an NIT berth should be a reasonable goal.

Point Guards-Guessing it’s going to be a 2-headed monster next year with Fleming and Williams. While Fleming didn’t get enough playing time to base much analysis, Williams looks like he has some potential. 6-5 and fairly slender, he needs to hit the weight room. He did have some moments later in the year, so I think there is a solid future for him after some growing pains.

Red Shirts- Moss and Hutton. Not sure what to think as these two seemed to be the more highly touted recruits coming out of high school last year, but in hindsight a redshirt probably will do them both some good. I think they will add some athleticism to the program, which will be much needed.

Peter Jok-Not much analysis needed. He will need some guys to produce around him to continue his success.

Dale Jones- I wonder what Iowa could have done this year with Dale as the 3rd scoring option? Maybe he is the 2nd go-to-guy next year. Hoping he comes back from his injury.

Nicholas Baer- Hustle, hustle hustle. Would be nice to find a scholarship for him as I feel he has earned it. Eat and eat often this Summer.

Ahmad Wagner-Has the body to be a strong presence in the paint. Needs to work on his post moves and short range jumper.

Dom Uhl-He has shown improvement in many areas, but one focus should be finishing near the basket. Probably hit 30% or less in the paint.

Brady Ellingson-Had his opportunities, but if you are a 3 point shooter and can’t hit open shots, you’re playing time will go away which it did. Probably has some decisions to make.

Newbies: Pemsyl, Kreiner Bohannon and Cook. While 3 of the 4 are adding size to the program It’s unrealistic to think that anyone of them will be a difference maker next year. Cook is probably the best candidate to play right away and 2 of the other 3 could be redshirt candidates.



If I had to pencil in next year’s starters: I would say; Christian Williams, Peter Jok, Dale Jones, Dom Uhl and Ahmad Wagner. (Maybe insert Fleming for Jones, for more ball handling)

Nicholas Baer as your 6th man, then Andrew Fleming, Tyler Cook, Moss and Hutton complete your 10 man rotation.

Redshirts-Pemsyl or Kreiner, Bohannon if Ellingson stays.

State of the Program: Despite getting embarrassed by Villanova, my glass is still half-full on the program. Would Tyler Ulis running the show have made a difference? Maybe? Maybe not? Either way, that's how muc 1 guy can make a difference. I think the coaching staff will remain unchanged as I think we have a solid nucleus of diverse coaches.

Next year will be challenging with a lot of younger, un-proven players giving a lot of minutes. I think we will be more athletic, but inexperienced. As you know, anything is possible in basketball as 1-2 guys can make a huge difference, but another 20 win season is highly unlikely.

Looking beyond 2016-17, we obviously have Connor and Weiskamp coming in, with other scholarships open. I like Fran’s recruiting methodology. We went up against the big boys with Ulis, but lost out in the end. Same with Tyler Cook and we won that battle. I don’t expect Fran to shy away of going after the big fish, but then again finding the guy who is maybe under-recruited that can be developed into a solid player.
 
Sure they got blown out but really the ended up about where I expected at the beginning of the season. I thought they would be a team that would get a seed somewhere from 7-10 maybe win a game in the tournament and that is exactly what they did. Look at the talent that Villanova had compared to Iowa and tell me Iowa was actually won of the top teams in the country... they weren't. They just had a stretch where they played over their heads. They have been to 3 straight tournaments. The problem is that at this point they should have better players than they do. They need an upgrade in talent to get to another level.
 
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I thought your worst loss was against Maryland. Never really got going again after that.

As a disclaimer, I'm a clown fan, though I follow both programs. After losing to state you guys bounced back and ripped off a bunch of wins. It's a stinger because of it being an in-state rival and you nearly had the game won, but in terms of learning from a loss that one doesn't look so bad.
 
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Dirk - nice read and thoughtful analysis for the most part. Couple points of disagreement:

You name Fleming as part of the "two-headed monster" at PG but later position him as a sub for Dale Jones. I can't see Fleming playing PG unless it is an emergency situation.

You don't see any of the new recruits as difference makers. I believe that Tyler Cook fits the bill, probably starts, and contends for best freshman in the B10 next year.
 
I find it astonishing that this team could go from such heights to such depths in such a short time. Our season was very much like the UNI/Texas A&M game - from brilliance to disaster in record time.

I also wonder if a coach has ever gone from the penthouse to the outhouse so fast. Those that want Fran gone had better hope for him to leave, because he's not going to get fired.

In the end of it all, I have the same feeling I had after the Rose Bowl, only this is worse because we had 6 weeks of a "Rose Bowl" style performance. If someone wants to blame it all on Fran, I can hardly blame them.

I wish there was a logical explanation, and hope for whatever it was to be a thing of the past.
 
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Lots of very good stuff. I think Fran has the talent for another NCAA birth, top half B1G finish and be right at 20 wins, probably fully on the bubble most of the year. Teams are going to have trouble matching up with Iowa athletically. I think it is going to be Williams and JBo at PG and agree that Fleming is a 2 rather than a 1.
 
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I think Fran and co. will surprise us by competing for an NCAA bid.

I don't think Fleming has PG chops.

Overall, the program has had continually improved each year. We may not make the round of 32 next year, but I think it will be a solid year, and I expect a sweet sixteen in 2017-18.
 
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I don't expect anything will happen with McCaffery, and it probably isn't warranted at this point. But, it's a mistake to compare his tenure using Lickliter as a baseline. I could probably do better than the nightmare Lickliter created at Iowa myself, so that's not saying much for McCaffery, either.
All I do know is, I was late tuning in to the game yesterday against Villanova, and when I turned the radio on, the very first thing I heard the announcer say was, "and Gesell throws the ball away". I thought, well that was strange that I heard that the minute I turned the radio on, because it encapsulated the whole last half of the season for Iowa. Iowa was about 20 points down at the time in the first half and was trying to make a run.
As I said, I don't expect Barta to do anything with McCaffery, and I wish Gesell good luck in his life now that he can't play another game for Iowa, but I'm overjoyed to see him gone and I'll never understand why McCaffery was so rigid in insisting on playing Gesell like he was. I was completely mystified by it, and it clearly says something about his coaching.
Frankly, I'm glad to see the season over with, and can't help but feel, with McCaffery at the helm, we can only expect more of the same as long as he's here.
 
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I think this thread is awesome and lots of thought going into all comments. Good to hear!!
 
Very well written assessment of the program. Count me as one of the supporters who thinks Fran will get it going. We were picked to finish 9th in conference this year. No one was giving this team a chance and they had some "learning curves" in the preseason and got off to a hot start. Finishing 3rd in the Big Ten is no small feat. I think Fran will continue to try and recruit the best players that fit his system. You have to remember that both of our round of 32 losses came against 2 very good programs. Both programs coaches have been at their respective schools at least 10+ years. That helps in recruiting.

Looking forward to next year, but not gonna lie its going to be weird not seeing Gessell, Woody and Clemmons out on the floor. Team is going to look different, which could be a good thing or bad.
 
I think we will be much more athletic next year, but much less experienced. You don't lose 4 senior starters and get better. If Frannie gets this next team to the dance, he is a god. I imagine a 17 or 18 win regular season is about the top we can hope for.All in all though, the future looks bright and I hope Fran is here for a long time.
 
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No disrespect to the seniors, but I really cannot recall one game where they played like battle-tested, veteran, experienced players. The 5 minute mark in the second half should have been accompanied by that weather alert message that comes on during storms. Appreciative of what they did, but I think Fran was too stubborn about playing these guys come hell or high water. We will see what guys can do next year when given the opportunity.
 
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We return a team with only 3 upperclassmen, Jok & Jones as Seniors, and Uhl as a Junior. That leaves us with:

SOPH: Baer (RS), Ellingson (RS), Fleming, Wagner, Williams
FROSH: Moss (RS), Hutton (RS), Bohannon, Cook, Kriener, Pemsl,

The roster is extremely unbalanced. I have to believe at least one player gets a red-shirt, possibly two. If I'm a betting man, at least one player from this squad will not return. In a perfect world, Baer gets a scholly, and someone checks out so we can get a 5th year PG in the program.
 
We return a team with only 3 upperclassmen, Jok & Jones as Seniors, and Uhl as a Junior. That leaves us with:

SOPH: Baer (RS), Ellingson (RS), Fleming, Wagner, Williams
FROSH: Moss (RS), Hutton (RS), Bohannon, Cook, Kriener, Pemsl,

The roster is extremely unbalanced. I have to believe at least one player gets a red-shirt, possibly two. If I'm a betting man, at least one player from this squad will not return. In a perfect world, Baer gets a scholly, and someone checks out so we can get a 5th year PG in the program.

I think you are correct. While I think Fran tries to get everyone involved in the games and tries to get them to compete, I would not be surprised if 1-2 guys leave in the off-season.
 
We return a team with only 3 upperclassmen, Jok & Jones as Seniors, and Uhl as a Junior. That leaves us with:

SOPH: Baer (RS), Ellingson (RS), Fleming, Wagner, Williams
FROSH: Moss (RS), Hutton (RS), Bohannon, Cook, Kriener, Pemsl,

The roster is extremely unbalanced. I have to believe at least one player gets a red-shirt, possibly two. If I'm a betting man, at least one player from this squad will not return. In a perfect world, Baer gets a scholly, and someone checks out so we can get a 5th year PG in the program.
I thought when Jones got hurt they said he would get a medical RS which would give him 2 years of eligibility - is that still the case
 
Dirk, You lost all credibility when you said Flemming should be a starter next year. Wow !!
I can't debate with someone who has such little basketball knowledge.
 
Great insight. Just because Woodbury was a disappointment doesn't mean he wasn't important, and that's a misconception many make. I think the same can be said for Gesell, where flashes were shown, but nothing came to fruition. I think Uthoff and Clemmons both exceeded expectations, and major props to Clemmons for sticking it out, and not transferring. 3 years ago we had a strong finish, 2 years ago we collapsed, 1 year ago we finished strong, and this year we collapsed. I don't think it's fair to say we're a choking team just because we did twice. That would mean we are a strong finishing team because we did it twice. The loss of Aaron White was so much larger than anyone knew. He was one of the few fiery competitors on this team, and was the reason for the strong finish last year. My appreciation for him grew, and he became my favorite all time hawk this season. Jok does have some fire, but he is going to have to mature, and stop doing so many dumb things (sorry I'm not a poet and cannot find a better way to say that, but you all know it's true.) I do like Baers fire and think he could be a key cog to next years team. Uhl is probably the most talented player on the team, but really fell off. I really hope it's not a hole he can't dig himself out of because he could be a very good player. Williams and Jones will have increased roles next year, and are important plugs to the team. There's some depth to this team, but it is young, and inexperienced. I also think the NIT is a reasonable goal, and I thought the NCAA tournament was a realistic goal the last 2 seasons, when others were borderline.
 
I thought when Jones got hurt they said he would get a medical RS which would give him 2 years of eligibility - is that still the case
I guess I haven't heard anything since his need for surgery was announced...there's certainly precedent for obtaining a medical redshirt. Can anyone more familiar with the process give a confidence level on him having that granted? (I believe Jones redshirted the 2013-2014 season while injured at Tyler Junior College in Texas)
 
There have been some good posts to read on this board today. It's a nice change of pace. Well done, OP. Well done.

The optimistic side of me thinks Iowa will be better balanced offensively next season and harder to game plan for. The other more cynical side of me thinks this team will have a lot of growing pains to endure next year.

It should be an interesting season. And I think next year's team could surpass expectations (like this year's team did prior to the collapse). And by surpassing expectations, I mean at or near a 20 win season.
 
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Worst loss wasn't Penn St or Illinois?
Yes, in my opinion ISU was the worst loss.
We had all been hearing for months how Iowa State was the 2nd coming of the mid-90's Chicago Bulls, Deonte Burton was the next Charles Barkley and George Niang running is flapper all Summer about how good they were going to be. Then lowly Iowa, who may have been 5-3 at that point had ISU down 20 in Hilton, took the punch with the comeback only to counterpunch and take an 8-point lead with 1 minute and 30 seconds or so to go, only to pee it down their legs. It would have been great to walk out of Hilton pointing to the IOWA on their jerseys and send Niang and trash talker Naz Long into the showers, but it wasn't meant to be.
In hindsight, maybe the demoralizing loss enabled Iowa to have the season they did. And maybe it made ISU realize that they weren't as good as they thought they were.
Illinois and Penn State were bad losses from an RPI perspective. but when you have your arch rival down in their own crib, it would have been nice to shovel some dirt on top of the coffin.
 
Dirk, You lost all credibility when you said Flemming should be a starter next year. Wow !!
I can't debate with someone who has such little basketball knowledge.
I inserted the fact that I cant pencil in anyone into the starting line-up that I haven't seen. I would pencil in Jones, but if you want a smaller guard, Fleming is your guy. Based upon what we have returning who has actually played a Iowa, its either Fleming, Jones or Ellingson.
With Fran's system, no sure it matters who starts, especially next year as I think are you are going to see a lot of guys get 20 minutes.
 
I guess I haven't heard anything since his need for surgery was announced...there's certainly precedent for obtaining a medical redshirt. Can anyone more familiar with the process give a confidence level on him having that granted? (I believe Jones redshirted the 2013-2014 season while injured at Tyler Junior College in Texas)
Next year he will be a 5th year senior, unless the rule has changed in the last few months you cannot apply for a 6th year medical waiver until after your 5th year has begun. He is supposedly ahead of schedule, running and going through rehab and may be able to play in the PTL, but for sure will be ready for next Fall.
 
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Really like a lot of these posts as opposed to the kamikaze posters. The 'blow it up' group really symbolizes how little confidence they have in our program to take on challenges and handle adversity. There is just as many downtrodden programs out there in a continual cycle of hiring/firing as there are success stories of finding the 'IT' coach reaching new heights that is sustainable.

I happen to lean on the side of allowing the head coach to continually assess the strengths and weaknesses of his program. Using that assessment to make adjustments in recruitment and play over time. I further like the idea of building stability and continuity. I think that bodes well for us over the long run.

Look forward to seeing the team next year even if it's challenged from a youth perspective.
 
There have been some good posts to read on this board today. It's a nice change of pace. Well done, OP. Well done.

The optimistic side of me thinks Iowa will be better balanced offensively next season and harder to game plan for. The other more cynical side of me thinks this team will have a lot of growing pains to endure next year.

It should be an interesting season. And I think next year's team could surpass expectations (like this year's team did prior to the collapse). And by surpassing expectations, I mean at or near a 20 win season.
I think both sides of you are right. Outside of Peter, Iowa will largely be unknown as far as production and who knows where it will come from on a given night. I just hope Fran doesn't go all in and run all the sets for Peter. We saw how well that worked this season.
 
I find it astonishing that this team could go from such heights to such depths in such a short time. Our season was very much like the UNI/Texas A&M game - from brilliance to disaster in record time.

I also wonder if a coach has ever gone from the penthouse to the outhouse so fast. Those that want Fran gone had better hope for him to leave, because he's not going to get fired.

In the end of it all, I have the same feeling I had after the Rose Bowl, only this is worse because we had 6 weeks of a "Rose Bowl" style performance. If someone wants to blame it all on Fran, I can hardly blame them.

I wish there was a logical explanation, and hope for whatever it was to be a thing of the past.

I think the inability to explain the fall is what is so troubling. Nothing obvious sticks out. I think the PSU game was the one that really put us in a spiral. Maryland is a really talented team and when they have it together they are a very difficult out. IU I still contend is one of the best teams in the country. Wisky can be good or bad and they were good against us. So some of the losses I could live with but not the PSU or Illinois losses.
 
IMO too early to get down on FM, but I would agree this was the first year that I started to have concerns he may not be the guy. Primarily because of his insistence on playing the seniors regardless of performance and not shaking things up when they went in the crapper the last 1/3 of the season. I was in a union (no choice) out of school and did not care for the union mentality as it was all about seniority and doing less for more IMO. The next two years will determine if Fran can take the team to a higher level versus just a rebuild coach. Saying all that, I am still in his corner at this point.
 
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I don't expect anything will happen with McCaffery, and it probably isn't warranted at this point. But, it's a mistake to compare his tenure using Lickliter as a base line. I could probably do better better than the nightmare Lickliter created at Iowa, myself, so that's not saying much for McCaffery, either.
All I do know is, I was late tuning in to the game yesterday against Villanova, and when I turned the radio on, the very first thing I heard the announcer say was, "and Gesell throws the ball away". I thought well that was strange that I heard that the minute I turned the radio on, because it encapsulated this whole last half of the season for Iowa. Iowa was about 20 points down at the time in the first half and was trying to make a run.
As I said, I don't expect Barta to do anything with McCaffery, and I wish Gesell good luck in his life now that he can't play another game for Iowa, but I'm overjoyed to see him gone and I'll never understand why McCaffery was so rigid in insisting on playing Gesell like he was. I was completely mystified by it. It clearly says something about his coaching.
Frankly, I'm glad to see the season over with, and can't help but feel with McCaffery at the helm, we can only expect more of the same as long as he's here.

I knew this was a bs post once I read Iowa was trying to make a run in the first half. You clearly didn't pay attention as Iowa didn't try to do crap in the first half.

Good post by op and many others on this thread. Pretty insightful and positive stuff to finish the season with. I think the bball program is on very solid footing and will be trending upward by mid season next year. We are replacing experience with athleticism. If Dom can come out of his sophomore slump that would be a plus. I really liked what I saw from Wagner and Williams in limited playing time. I think Baer becomes the leader if this team.

Future is bright hawk fans. Keep your heads up.
 
What I liked about Fran initially was that I thought he was the anti-Ferentz. Now what I don't like about him is that he is turning into a Ferentz clone. He will only play his guys and the other guys don't play because our system is so complex and they have to learn it. Ironic because in the post game after losses he cited lack of execution, failure to follow the game plan and guys being in the wrong position on defense from our seniors.

Fran's recruiting failures have cost us opportunities to advance the past two years. When you build 4 years to this point, you do what you have to in order to win now. I guess he thought all he needed was Dale Jones and that our guard play would somehow not be a deficiency as it had been the prior 3 years.
 
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What I liked about Fran initially was that I thought he was the anti-Ferentz. Now what I don't like about him is that he is turning into a Ferentz clone. He will only play his guys and the other guys don't play because our system is so complex and they have to learn it. Ironic because in the post game after losses he cited lack of execution, failure to follow the game plan and guys being in the wrong position on defense from our seniors.

I agree with the above and it is cause for concern IMO.
 
You don't lose 4 senior starters and get better.
This is what I struggle with regarding how the season ended .. We had 4 senior starters. That is a rarity in college basketball today. Four guys who know the rigors of Big 10 play. I think that is what surprised me so much ... the collapse ... Now, if we had five starters made up of freshman and sophomores ... I could understand losing steam and petering out ... The fact we had four seniors in the lineup is what sticks with me and does make me wonder if this program will be anything more than it is today.
 
What I liked about Fran initially was that I thought he was the anti-Ferentz. Now what I don't like about him is that he is turning into a Ferentz clone. He will only play his guys and the other guys don't play because our system is so complex and they have to learn it. Ironic because in the post game after losses he cited lack of execution, failure to follow the game plan and guys being in the wrong position on defense from our seniors.

Fran's recruiting failures have cost us opportunities to advance the past two years. When you build 4 years to this point, you do what you have to in order to win now. I guess he thought all he needed was Dale Jones and that our guard play would somehow not be a deficiency as it had been the prior 3 years.

You realize these are all Fran's guys, right?
 
This is what I struggle with regarding how the season ended .. We had 4 senior starters. That is a rarity in college basketball today. Four guys who know the rigors of Big 10 play. I think that is what surprised me so much ... the collapse ... Now, if we had five starters made up of freshman and sophomores ... I could understand losing steam and petering out ... The fact we had four seniors in the lineup is what sticks with me and does make me wonder if this program will be anything more than it is today.

How do you know that 4 seniors did not help? This team was picked by outsiders for 9th in the preseason and was not ranked in the top 25 (not receiving votes either) before the year. These guys got a lot of mileage when you look at the expectation going in and the overall result. Finishing 3rd in league play and winning a tourney game means you were technically in the top 17-32 teams. I think that's about right for this group.

The issue was they exceeded expectation dramatically for a period of time which raised the outside expectations. Then when they struggled down the stretch it became a disappointment for those who were dreaming big.

Three of the seniors had limitations and/or significant holes in their games so they were not capable of carrying the load. The other senior became an all-American but defenders began to get up into his space which made him uncomfortable and knocked down his production.

I think we got as much as we could out of this group.

I would argue that next year's group will be more athletic than this year's group. They will struggle for a period from an experience standpoint. I expect wild swings in play and individual contributions but it should be a lot of fun to see how it comes together.
 
What we seem to sorely lack (consistently over the years) compared to elite teams is quickness on the perimeter (both for defense and to penetrate/create on offense). Elite teams actually have quick guards who can also shoot too. I'm more worried about guard play next year than post play.
 
I compared Iowa to Wisconsin, who came in at the start of the season with a lot of questions but got better as the season went on. Iowa had a lot of experience and started well but fell a part as the season went on. After seeing what Iowa did at the beginning and how they ended, I have some worries about Fran's coaching ability. Why does his teams have let downs when the pressure is on. Why with the seniors on the team no one really stepped up to lead when it was needed. Why Fran seems to get out coached by lesser teams. And is Fran able to take this team to the next level. I just look at Wisconsin, with not much better talent, get better as the season goes on and Iowa doesn't.
 
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