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26 UI student-athletes are being investigated for online gambling, incl in Wrestling, Men’s Basketball, Football, Baseball, Men’s track & field

Iowa football player Noah Shannon has been suspended one year. It's being appealed.

From what's being reported:

Shannon apparently bet on one of Iowa's other teams (ie, he bet on an Iowa basketball game or Iowa baseball or some other Iowa sport).

How many bets he placed and how many dollars he wagered has not been revealed as of now.
My son just had an hour long meeting with all the athletes at his university. They told him that he could bet on things like UFC, but NO sports that are in the NCAA.

Take it for what it is worth. I am guessing betting on your own school is a big no no.
 
My son just had an hour long meeting with all the athletes at his university. They told him that he could bet on things like UFC, but NO sports that are in the NCAA.

Take it for what it is worth. I am guessing betting on your own school is a big no no.

yeah, you can bet on any sport that the NCAA doesn't sponsor a championship
 
I've missed nearly this whole thread so I apologize. Looking to be brought up to speed. This is a general question, and not necessairily focused on wrestling. But are the gamblers in trouble for gambling period, or betting on their respective teams?
They can’t bet on NCAA events. That is all.
 
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They can’t bet on NCAA events. That is all.

I think the Virginia Tech football player who got suspended was betting on NBA finals, no NCAA events.

Bottom line: if there is a sport that crowns an NCAA champion, a student athlete (from any sport) can't bet on that sport at any level (college, pro, etc).

Somehow, last year, the VA Tech football player (a senior) didn't know that he couldn't bet on pro basketball games. Once he learned he screwed up, he self reported and the NCAA initially gave him a 9 game ban; after appeal, the penalty was reduced to 6 games.
 
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Bottom line: if there is a sport that crowns an NCAA champion, a student athlete (from any sport) can't bet on that sport at any level (college, pro, etc).

Somehow, last year, the VA Tech football player (a senior) didn't know that he couldn't bet on pro basketball games. Once he learned he screwed up, he self reported and the NCAA initially gave him a 9 game ban; after appeal, the penalty was reduced to 6 games.
Why couldn’t he bet on pro games?
 
I'm more interested to see if the gambling probe has longer term implications on recruiting even though that will be nearly impossible to gauge unless a recruit specifically states it was a factor.
Certainly won't help.
 
Bottom line: if there is a sport that crowns an NCAA champion, a student athlete (from any sport) can't bet on that sport at any level (college, pro, etc).

Somehow, last year, the VA Tech football player (a senior) didn't know that he couldn't bet on pro basketball games. Once he learned he screwed up, he self reported and the NCAA initially gave him a 9 game ban; after appeal, the penalty was reduced to 6 games.
This is the correct answer.
 
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Because that's the (stupid) rule.
This is definitely the most stupid part. College kids have no impact on pro games. It’s just an overreach by the NCAA. I doubt the current ruleset will be in place much longer. Every coach in America knows there are players gambling, maybe not on every single team but they know they have exposure under the current rules. So do administrators. The rules will change, but it’s too late for our guys most likely.
 
A college player and a former teammate that is currently in the pros would be privy to insider information. Could make for a dangerous quid pro quo situation.

It would be much simpler if the rule was no betting on sports of any kind.

And i really do think this is the answer. Athletes across the spectrum are close. And information travels. No different than in any other sector - that sector is going to know about it before anyone else.

I mean. look at us... Wrestlers should NOT be allowed to bet on UFC fights. It's wrestlers who dominate the sport... and Penn State has a fight club damn near on campus!
 
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And i really do think this is the answer. Athletes across the spectrum are close. And information travels. No different than in any other sector - that sector is going to know about it before anyone else.

I mean. look at us... Wrestlers should NOT be allowed to bet on UFC fights. It's wrestlers who dominate the sport... and Penn State has a fight club damn near on campus!
just wait until UBER DONOR Ira Lubert gets his already approved CASINO up and running in State College.... Online betting and all kinds of great paying games for the kids with all that extra NIL money
 
Online betting and all kinds of great paying games for the kids with all that extra NIL money
Sounds like a great strategy to launder money, and a tax efficient recycling of earnings to boot. Donate $ to wrestlers via NIL targeting charitable works. Wrestlers gamble their earnings away on table games. I tell ya, the guy is pure genius!!!
 
A college player and a former teammate that is currently in the pros would be privy to insider information. Could make for a dangerous quid pro quo situation.

It would be much simpler if the rule was no betting on sports of any kind.
Just as easily could be college player who is now in the pros with roommate(s) that are still in college but are not athletes. Or a good buddy from high school who was never a college athlete. Couldn't those people be privy to the same information?
 
Just as easily could be college player who is now in the pros with roommate(s) that are still in college but are not athletes. Or a good buddy from high school who was never a college athlete. Couldn't those people be privy to the same information?
Which is why i'm good with ANY athlete not being able to gamble.

The issue with gambling is the integrity of the sport. People will absolutely stop watching if they believe the games already have a scripted ending, or that the results are being skewed for certain persons.
 
Which is why i'm good with ANY athlete not being able to gamble.

The issue with gambling is the integrity of the sport. People will absolutely stop watching if they believe the games already have a scripted ending, or that the results are being skewed for certain persons.
I agree, I'm just saying there are other people who could easily have "insider information" and who were never college athletes.
 
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And i really do think this is the answer. Athletes across the spectrum are close. And information travels. No different than in any other sector - that sector is going to know about it before anyone else.

I mean. look at us... Wrestlers should NOT be allowed to bet on UFC fights. It's wrestlers who dominate the sport... and Penn State has a fight club damn near on campus!
The only reason wrestlers shouldn’t be allowed to bet on UFC fights would be potential insider info on injuries of athletes (previous wrestlers) before fights, imo.
 
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Which is why i'm good with ANY athlete not being able to gamble.

The issue with gambling is the integrity of the sport. People will absolutely stop watching if they believe the games already have a scripted ending, or that the results are being skewed for certain persons.
The WWE says hold my beer.
 
This is definitely the most stupid part. College kids have no impact on pro games. It’s just an overreach by the NCAA. I doubt the current ruleset will be in place much longer. Every coach in America knows there are players gambling, maybe not on every single team but they know they have exposure under the current rules. So do administrators. The rules will change, but it’s too late for our guys most likely.

The NCAA just revised the rules; not sure if any changes to these new rules would be coming any time soon.

I know there are differing opinions on this but isn't the best & simple answer what we have now, which is as long as you are a student athlete, you can't place bets and you can't gamble? Once a student athlete is allowed to bet on pro games, how do you monitor things so that they don't bet on college games?

And I do think a one year ban is WAY too much of a penalty. Kirk Ferentz is furious bout losing Noah Shannon for a year. I wonder if we ever find out what Noah and the 6 wrestlers bet on and how many total wagers and dollars were involved.

I still want to see a timeline of what triggered this investigation to where we are today.
 
The NCAA just revised the rules; not sure if any changes to these new rules would be coming any time soon.

I know there are differing opinions on this but isn't the best & simple answer what we have now, which is as long as you are a student athlete, you can't place bets and you can't gamble? Once a student athlete is allowed to bet on pro games, how do you monitor things so that they don't bet on college games?

And I do think a one year ban is WAY too much of a penalty. Kirk Ferentz is furious bout losing Noah Shannon for a year. I wonder if we ever find out what Noah and the 6 wrestlers bet on and how many total wagers and dollars were involved.

I still want to see a timeline of what triggered this investigation to where we are today.
What triggered it was underage gambling. So, just idiocy all around. The athletes have no one to blame but themselves.
 
I still want to see a timeline of what triggered this investigation to where we are today.

I had heard second hand; so take it for what it’s worth; that one of the football players moms was getting notifications from draftkings or whatever and thought she had been hacked; obviously not knowing it was her son using her info. She contacted authorities since she had believed she had been hacked and this is what opened the investigation. Like I said this is just what I heard from a guy at work so it may be true may be completely false.
 
What triggered it was underage gambling. So, just idiocy all around. The athletes have no one to blame but themselves.

But, did the DCI get tipped off? Or was this just an "audit?"

And you're right; the athletes knew it was wrong & did it any way. But like Kirk Ferentz said, you could fill up Kinnick Stadium with athletes who have placed bets
 
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But, did the DCI get tipped off? Or was this just an "audit?"

And you're right; the athletes knew it was wrong & did it any way. But like Kirk Ferentz said, you could fill up Kinnick Stadium with athletes who have placed bets
Ferentz is being a baby. "whataboutism" - come on man.

I'm not sure if its correct - but i've heard it was a mom of an athlete who triggered the investigation after reporting her name and bank account being fraudulently used for online gambling. She reported it - and it was her underage son.
 
Just as easily could be college player who is now in the pros with roommate(s) that are still in college but are not athletes. Or a good buddy from high school who was never a college athlete. Couldn't those people be privy to the same information?

A non-athlete former roommate or a high school buddy that was never a college athlete are not in a position to influence a college athletic event. A college athlete, staff member, etc. is in a position.
 
Ferentz is being a baby. "whataboutism" - come on man.

I'm not sure if its correct - but i've heard it was a mom of an athlete who triggered the investigation after reporting her name and bank account being fraudulently used for online gambling. She reported it - and it was her underage son.
It's not funny, but all I can do is laugh if that is truly how the investigation got started. Lol. Feels like such an "Iowa" way to get busted... in the sense that we don't get to have nice things anymore.
 
A non-athlete former roommate or a high school buddy that was never a college athlete are not in a position to influence a college athletic event. A college athlete, staff member, etc. is in a position.
No, but the non-athlete could get information from their former roommate or buddy who is an athlete and make the wager themselves. Not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.
 
No, but the non-athlete could get information from their former roommate or buddy who is an athlete and make the wager themselves. Not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.
I understand that completely. However, an athlete or staff member, unlike someone outside the team, can actually influence the outcome of a game, match, etc. There's a reason why we've never heard of a roomie or buddy shaving points.
 
It’s awfully naive to believe this all started because of one Mother of an athlete reported what she thought was fraud.
So this prompts investigators to look into male athletes at Iowa and ISU only? After the DCI discovers an Iowa athlete is involved, they decide to open up a targeted full scale investigation?
I’d like to know on what date the Mother made the DCI aware of this?
I find it a bit intriguing that Barta’s resignation is late May, after IA government officials and lawmakers call for his resignation. Then, the NCAA revises the gambling penalties, which coincides with this investigation. Eligibility penalties just happen to become more lenient? There are just too many political underpinnings to believe this all started from one Mom.
 
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