Gilman gets Uguev and IF he gets past him he has Takahashi, Micic could not have gotten an easier draw to the finals.
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Brackets aren't out yet. Will be out the day before. Brackets out are fake
Hey now, it was on the internet so it must be real!
The bracket I saw was BS, why some jackass would go out of their way to post this crap is beyond me.
Thought it was funny as hell and well played. I got taken too.
In reality, would this be a good draw for Gilman?
It’s kind of puzzling as to why team USA didn’t try to get more seeding points? Micic and Amine live in the U.S. and made it happen. I guess you have to beat them all, but man, why leave so much to chance? Regardless, go team USA!
It’s kind of puzzling as to why team USA didn’t try to get more seeding points? Micic and Amine live in the U.S. and made it happen. I guess you have to beat them all, but man, why leave so much to chance? Regardless, go team USA!
If you’re being serious, it would be a terrible draw for Gilman. He gets the best 57 kg wrestler in the world to start then would have a guy he’s 0-2 against in takahashi. I hope like hell (despite being a “traitor”) that he beats everyone in front of him but I don’t see him beating uguev. I actually think he would/will finally beat takahashi if they meet up but not the Russian. I know the bracket is fake but it’s not unlikely he meets one or both at some point. I’m just happy Olympics are a go.
GIlman desperately needs to be on the top side. Although if he is on the bottom, IMO he is gonna want to hit Uguev so in the event that he loses to the Russian, he would likely get pulled back in for repechage/bronze.
read a bio for gman. it said gilman is another in a long line of iowa wrestlers to wrestle in the olympics. no mention of nlwc. when he wins i hope all are happy for him.i do not see it happening,but i sure am pulling for him.
Gilman's still my dude. I ignore the PSU cheerleading.
He’d get Takahashi in the first round of the repechage. Terrible draw however you slice it.
Gilman has beaten several very good international opponents and has a silver and a 5th at worlds. I don’t expect him to win the thing, but think he can compete for a medal no matter his draw.
I love all former Hawkeyes. Somehow I can’t root for Gilman with the things he has said since leaving after he trashed Ramos for doing the same thing. Iron sharpens iron. Jmo. He’s a hypocrite!!! Again jmo. If he places penn st will get the credit!!!
I don't know if they will get the credit, but I am sure they will try to take it.
They will. Gilman sold out all the way!!! His interviews prove that
Who is this Gilman guy? If he's in the Olympics he must have won a lot of championships for his college team.
This is a fair take, however, the draw will definitely matter. The top side would be better.
Gilman’s best chance to medal is drawing a winnable first match then wrestling Micic in quarterfinals.
The wildcards are where Takahasi and Abdullaev get drawn in.
My prediction
Uguev Russia-Gold
Abdullaev UZB-Silver
Sanayev KAZ-Bronze
Ravi IND-Bronze
Subject to change after bracket release.
To the average wrestling fan - Gilman is an Iowa guy. Now when he talks to potential recruits and others, he may say that PSU helped him and it is a good place, but I can't see him saying that Iowa has no merit.
I do kind of see him being similar to Gable in one area. Gable is loyal to the place he is at. When he was wrestling for ISU he was a Cyclone through and through. When he came to Iowa he was a Hawkeye through and through.
Gilman actually does get the Russian first round lol. Can’t make this sh*t up.
It will be tough but he can do it.
It's really not a terrible draw. He should at least wrestle for Bronze and has beaten the guy he'd most likely see there before (though he lost the most recent match against him for Bronze in 2018).
I was thinking the same thing. If your goal is to win gold, why wouldn't you want this guy 1st round as close to weigh ins as possible? Rest of the tournament should be downhill right? And if the goal is to get on the podium, and you're nervous about a couple matchups then this is the exact guy you would want to lose to if you lose. He is most likely to bring you back into the bracket. I say bring him on...I'm guessing Gilman feels the same way (about the bring him on). One thing I still admire about Gilman is he is a fierce competitor. He won't be sweating the draw.
Chief I appreciate your humbleness, however, I think you knew all along.😳
Yes, and specifically with this match up I think Gilman's best chance is overwhelm him with pace. I remember Perry talking about how he liked this match up for this reason.
I actually think his pushout game is what makes him a tough match up for Uguev. Perry talked about this once a while back when he was still here. Uguev is much more skilled. He won't win trading blow for blow imo. He's got to get to his hook and wear him down on the edge. He should try to make this match as ugly as possible. Uguev is very good with his own underhook on the edge, but I'd rather TG fight that battle than try to go with him skill for skill elsewhere.
For those that aren't as familiar with the international scene, Uguev is one of the most underrated guys in the world. He's quietly put himself on track to be an all time great if he wins here to make it 3 straight and he's still in his mid-20s.
Not disagreeing there, I guess my point was that if he falls behind he can't rely on 1pt pushouts to get back in it.
Not to nitpick but I'm not sure I'd consider Uguev one of the most underrated werstlers in the world. He's held at a very high regard IMO and a clear favorite amongst a field of several world medalists.
starting with my usual preface that I am not a wrestler... and also that I probably asked/complained about these things in this forum 5 years ago...now that that is out of the way:
does the wrestling community like the international format over the double elimination style of nationals? The high stakes make for drama, but are so unforgiving, especially when you are at the mercy of a bad call.
Also, is it just because i am an outsider that it seems completely ridiculous to only have 16 in the olympics? it doesn't seem like it would be too much to ask to add another day to each discipline and go up to 64...
Maybe we are just supposed to be happy that wrestling is still in the olympics
does the wrestling community like the international format over the double elimination style of nationals? The high stakes make for drama, but are so unforgiving, especially when you are at the mercy of a bad call.
Also, is it just because i am an outsider that it seems completely ridiculous to only have 16 in the olympics? it doesn't seem like it would be too much to ask to add another day to each discipline and go up to 64...
Maybe we are just supposed to be happy that wrestling is still in the olympics
My 14 year old son was complaining about the format. He thought it was garbage that they seed the top 3 then random draw everyone else then run the bracket the way they do.
I can see both arguments. Just win and it takes care of itself, and if you got beat by the best in the world, you will get a shot at bronze.
But I am with you on only 16. But in all seriousness, IDK how else you do it unless you are going to let more than 1 guy per weight in for each country. There are not more than 16 countries who can field an Olympic level wrestler. I guess most other sports are allowed to have more than 1 competitor per event...so a case could be made.
Huh? The US doesn’t even have a guy at 65kg and we can field an Olympic wrestler. Pretty sure they do ten weights with 24 athletes at the word championships each year. The Olympics could easily do the same, but wants to limit the number.
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I don't understand your point/question (huh?)...nor did I say the US should automatically get 2 bids. In fact I didn't even reference the US. There is no question that at several weights 2 of the top 5 in the world are from the same country (Dake and Burroughs for example), Russia would be another country. If a person wanted to expand the Olympic brackets, to me it would make more sense to add multiple wrestlers from the same country (like the 200M backstroke), then it would to add a wrestler from say Brazil.
Does that clarify my point or were just looking for an argument?
You said “there are not more than 16 countries that can field an Olympic level wrestler.” I was confused by that statement because it’s so clearly wrong.
