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Anti-vaccination stronghold in North Carolina hit with state's worst chickenpox outbreak in 2 decade

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Chickenpox has taken hold of a school in North Carolina where many families claim religious exemption from vaccines.

Cases of chickenpox have been multiplying at the Asheville Waldorf School, which serves children from nursery school to sixth grade in Asheville, North Carolina. About a dozen infections grew to 28 at the beginning of the month. By Friday, there were 36, the Asheville Citizen-Times reported.

The outbreak ranks as the state's worst since the chickenpox vaccine became available more than 20 years ago. Since then, the two-dose course has succeeded in limiting the highly contagious disease that once affected 90 percent of Americans.



The school is a symbol of the small but strong movement against the most effective means of preventing the spread of infectious diseases - like an island in the vast ocean of medical consensus. The percentage of children under 2 years old who haven't received any vaccinations has quadrupled since 2001, according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

Like the Disneyland measles outbreak in 2015, the flare-up demonstrates the real-life consequences of a shadowy debate fueled by junk science and fomented by the same sort of Twitter bots and trolls that spread misinformation during the 2016 presidential election. And it shows how a seemingly fringe view can gain currency in a place like Asheville, a funky, year-round resort town nestled between the Blue Ridge and Smoky Mountains.

"The school follows immunization requirements put in place by the state board of education, but also recognizes that a parent's decision to immunize their children happens before they enter school," the school explained in a statement to Blue Ridge Public Radio.

Jennifer Mullendore, the medical director of Buncombe County, North Carolina, was unambiguous: "We want to be clear: vaccination is the best protection from chickenpox."

"When we see high numbers of unimmunized children and adults, we know that an illness like chickenpox can spread easily throughout the community- into our playgrounds, grocery stores, and sports teams," she said in a news release.

But not all parents seemed to grasp the gravity of the outbreak. Nor does everyone see the rationale behind vaccines, which some believe - contrary to scientific evidence - cause more severe health issues than they're meant to cure. The claim of an autism risk, though it has been debunked, has remained a rallying cry of the anti-vaccine movement.

"What's the big deal with chickenpox?" one city resident, Amy Gordon, told the Citizen-Times.

Chickenpox is serious, warns the CDC, "even life-threatening, especially in babies, adolescents, adults, pregnant women and people with weakened immune systems."

The virus used to crop up in about 4 million cases annually in the United States, causing more than 10,000 hospitalizations and between 100 and 150 deaths. Children were especially susceptible, as schools seemed to incubate the blister-like rash, which appears first on the stomach, back and face and can spread over the entire surface of the body, creating as many as 500 itchy blisters.


That was before a two-dose vaccination program was licensed in the U.S. in 1995.

The vaccine, which the CDC says is about 90 percent effective, hasn't eliminated the varicella zoster virus, which causes chickenpox. But since the regimen became commercially available, it has reduced the number of cases, as well as their severity. A 14-year prospective study published in Pediatrics in 2013 found that the incidence of infection was nine- to 10-times lower than in the pre-vaccine era.

Still, the vaccine's clearly documented merits remain unconvincing to some. Asheville Waldorf has one of the highest religious vaccination exemption rates in the state, according to data maintained by the state's Department of Health and Human Services.

The private school has a higher rate of exemption on religious grounds than all but two other North Carolina schools, the Citizen-Times reported. During the 2017-18 school year, 19 of 28 kindergartners were exempt from at least one vaccine required by the state. Of the school's 152 students, 110 had not received the chickenpox vaccine, the newspaper reported.



North Carolina requires all students in the state to receive certain immunizations. Among the vaccines required for kindergarten-aged children are two doses for chickenpox, two for measles, and two for mumps. Seventh graders must again submit to immunization.

But the state also permits exemptions based on the advice of a physician - as well as on religious grounds.

"If the bona fide religious beliefs of an adult or the parent, guardian or person in loco parentis of a child are contrary to the immunization requirements contained in this Part, the adult or the child shall be exempt from the requirements," state statute allows.

Recent efforts to tighten the rules have foundered. In 2015, state legislators withdrew a bill that would have all but eliminated the religious exemption after their efforts were met with strident protest. Protesters picketed the state's General Assembly in Raleigh, warning of "Medical Terrorism."

Meanwhile, the county's medical director has been exhorting residents to immunize their children. "What happens when we lack community immunity? Measles is what happens," Mullendore this fall told commissioners of the county, which had the highest rate of religious exemptions last year.

The friction between medical experts and the residents in their care is not unique to Buncombe County, where the parents of 5.7 percent of kindergartners claimed a religious exemption, or even to North Carolina, where the rate was 1.2 percent.

Forty-seven states allow religious exemptions to vaccine requirements, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. CDC data shows that median percentage of kindergarteners not receiving one or more required vaccine was highest in Oregon.

https://www.nonpareilonline.com/new...cle_f16c569b-ca96-5fd2-bdab-1a3f4d17c9e6.html
 
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Chickenpox has taken hold of a school in North Carolina where many families claim religious exemption from vaccines.

Cases of chickenpox have been multiplying at the Asheville Waldorf School, which serves children from nursery school to sixth grade in Asheville, North Carolina. About a dozen infections grew to 28 at the beginning of the month. By Friday, there were 36, the Asheville Citizen-Times reported.

The outbreak ranks as the state's worst since the chickenpox vaccine became available more than 20 years ago. Since then, the two-dose course has succeeded in limiting the highly contagious disease that once affected 90 percent of Americans.



The school is a symbol of the small but strong movement against the most effective means of preventing the spread of infectious diseases - like an island in the vast ocean of medical consensus. The percentage of children under 2 years old who haven't received any vaccinations has quadrupled since 2001, according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

Like the Disneyland measles outbreak in 2015, the flare-up demonstrates the real-life consequences of a shadowy debate fueled by junk science and fomented by the same sort of Twitter bots and trolls that spread misinformation during the 2016 presidential election. And it shows how a seemingly fringe view can gain currency in a place like Asheville, a funky, year-round resort town nestled between the Blue Ridge and Smoky Mountains.

"The school follows immunization requirements put in place by the state board of education, but also recognizes that a parent's decision to immunize their children happens before they enter school," the school explained in a statement to Blue Ridge Public Radio.

Jennifer Mullendore, the medical director of Buncombe County, North Carolina, was unambiguous: "We want to be clear: vaccination is the best protection from chickenpox."

"When we see high numbers of unimmunized children and adults, we know that an illness like chickenpox can spread easily throughout the community- into our playgrounds, grocery stores, and sports teams," she said in a news release.

But not all parents seemed to grasp the gravity of the outbreak. Nor does everyone see the rationale behind vaccines, which some believe - contrary to scientific evidence - cause more severe health issues than they're meant to cure. The claim of an autism risk, though it has been debunked, has remained a rallying cry of the anti-vaccine movement.

"What's the big deal with chickenpox?" one city resident, Amy Gordon, told the Citizen-Times.

Chickenpox is serious, warns the CDC, "even life-threatening, especially in babies, adolescents, adults, pregnant women and people with weakened immune systems."

The virus used to crop up in about 4 million cases annually in the United States, causing more than 10,000 hospitalizations and between 100 and 150 deaths. Children were especially susceptible, as schools seemed to incubate the blister-like rash, which appears first on the stomach, back and face and can spread over the entire surface of the body, creating as many as 500 itchy blisters.


That was before a two-dose vaccination program was licensed in the U.S. in 1995.

The vaccine, which the CDC says is about 90 percent effective, hasn't eliminated the varicella zoster virus, which causes chickenpox. But since the regimen became commercially available, it has reduced the number of cases, as well as their severity. A 14-year prospective study published in Pediatrics in 2013 found that the incidence of infection was nine- to 10-times lower than in the pre-vaccine era.

Still, the vaccine's clearly documented merits remain unconvincing to some. Asheville Waldorf has one of the highest religious vaccination exemption rates in the state, according to data maintained by the state's Department of Health and Human Services.

The private school has a higher rate of exemption on religious grounds than all but two other North Carolina schools, the Citizen-Times reported. During the 2017-18 school year, 19 of 28 kindergartners were exempt from at least one vaccine required by the state. Of the school's 152 students, 110 had not received the chickenpox vaccine, the newspaper reported.



North Carolina requires all students in the state to receive certain immunizations. Among the vaccines required for kindergarten-aged children are two doses for chickenpox, two for measles, and two for mumps. Seventh graders must again submit to immunization.

But the state also permits exemptions based on the advice of a physician - as well as on religious grounds.

"If the bona fide religious beliefs of an adult or the parent, guardian or person in loco parentis of a child are contrary to the immunization requirements contained in this Part, the adult or the child shall be exempt from the requirements," state statute allows.

Recent efforts to tighten the rules have foundered. In 2015, state legislators withdrew a bill that would have all but eliminated the religious exemption after their efforts were met with strident protest. Protesters picketed the state's General Assembly in Raleigh, warning of "Medical Terrorism."

Meanwhile, the county's medical director has been exhorting residents to immunize their children. "What happens when we lack community immunity? Measles is what happens," Mullendore this fall told commissioners of the county, which had the highest rate of religious exemptions last year.

The friction between medical experts and the residents in their care is not unique to Buncombe County, where the parents of 5.7 percent of kindergartners claimed a religious exemption, or even to North Carolina, where the rate was 1.2 percent.

Forty-seven states allow religious exemptions to vaccine requirements, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. CDC data shows that median percentage of kindergarteners not receiving one or more required vaccine was highest in Oregon.

https://www.nonpareilonline.com/new...cle_f16c569b-ca96-5fd2-bdab-1a3f4d17c9e6.html

Just allow providers and insurers to NOT cover any disease or subsequent complications from "voluntary non-vaccinations". Want the "religious exemption"? Kewl - now you're on the hook for 100% of your care costs associated with an outbreak, related complications AND the costs for anyone else you infect who could not be vaccinated due to medical/health reasons.

Print stories of people going broke paying for it (and don't allow for any welfare/Medicare as as a result of bankruptcies due to non-vaccinations).

Problem will eventually fix itself....
 
Does not surprise me this was at a Waldorf school. I've been on the periphery of a couple of Waldorf school cliques and it's an interesting crowd. New age educated europhile hippie types with money and a distrust of microwave ovens and the color black.
 
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Does not surprise me this was at a Waldorf school. I've been on the periphery of a couple of Waldorf school cliques and it's an interesting crowd. New age educated europhile hippie types with money and a distrust of microwave ovens and the color black.

Shit.....black microwave ovens must give them nightmares....
 
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Does not surprise me this was at a Waldorf school. I've been on the periphery of a couple of Waldorf school cliques and it's an interesting crowd. New age educated europhile hippie types with money and a distrust of microwave ovens and the color black.

I have also been exposed to a few cliques from these schools. Interesting is putting it nicely. Sone of these people are flat out strange.

One lady had her 2 and 4 year old boys dressed like girls. Long hair, nail polish, the works. Even called them girl names. But made damn sure everyone knew they were boys. Strange.
 
Just allow providers and insurers to NOT cover any disease or subsequent complications from "voluntary non-vaccinations". Want the "religious exemption"? Kewl - now you're on the hook for 100% of your care costs associated with an outbreak, related complications AND the costs for anyone else you infect who could not be vaccinated due to medical/health reasons.

Print stories of people going broke paying for it (and don't allow for any welfare/Medicare as as a result of bankruptcies due to non-vaccinations).

Problem will eventually fix itself....

I don't know that I'd go that far because the kids of these idiots are the ones suffering for their parents' stupidity. Without insurance, some of those kids will not get treated or will get substandard treatment options. However, I like the jist of your idea. Perhaps allowing insurance providers to increase rates for families who don't meet immunization schedules without a valid medical reason would provide the leverage?
 
I don't know that I'd go that far because the kids of these idiots are the ones suffering for their parents' stupidity.

I thought this was "OK" now.

Let them be adopted into families that'll take care of them, when the parents go penniless. Not my problem.
 
Let them be adopted into families that'll take care of them, when the parents go penniless. Not my problem.

Yikes, that's a pretty harsh perspective. Lots of things aren't our problems, but we nonetheless have compassion and want to help because we're not sociopaths. I don't like seeing children suffer for the sins of their parents. And without proper medical care, we would be talking literal physical suffering, not figurative. That's a harsh punishment for the sin of being born to stupid parents. Your line above sounds a lot like Ebenezer Scrooge - "If they would rather die, they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population." I hope you are not really that heartless.
 
Yikes, that's a pretty harsh perspective. Lots of things aren't our problems, but we nonetheless have compassion and want to help because we're not sociopaths. I don't like seeing children suffer for the sins of their parents. And without proper medical care, we would be talking literal physical suffering, not figurative. That's a harsh punishment for the sin of being born to stupid parents. Your line above sounds a lot like Ebenezer Scrooge - "If they would rather die, they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population." I hope you are not really that heartless.

That was intending to reference the callous positions toward asylum-seekers experiences....

If MAGAs are OK with that...this should just be a dandy solution.
 
Chickenpox has taken hold of a school in North Carolina where many families claim religious exemption from vaccines.

Cases of chickenpox have been multiplying at the Asheville Waldorf School, which serves children from nursery school to sixth grade in Asheville, North Carolina. About a dozen infections grew to 28 at the beginning of the month. By Friday, there were 36, the Asheville Citizen-Times reported.

The outbreak ranks as the state's worst since the chickenpox vaccine became available more than 20 years ago. Since then, the two-dose course has succeeded in limiting the highly contagious disease that once affected 90 percent of Americans.



The school is a symbol of the small but strong movement against the most effective means of preventing the spread of infectious diseases - like an island in the vast ocean of medical consensus. The percentage of children under 2 years old who haven't received any vaccinations has quadrupled since 2001, according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

Like the Disneyland measles outbreak in 2015, the flare-up demonstrates the real-life consequences of a shadowy debate fueled by junk science and fomented by the same sort of Twitter bots and trolls that spread misinformation during the 2016 presidential election. And it shows how a seemingly fringe view can gain currency in a place like Asheville, a funky, year-round resort town nestled between the Blue Ridge and Smoky Mountains.

"The school follows immunization requirements put in place by the state board of education, but also recognizes that a parent's decision to immunize their children happens before they enter school," the school explained in a statement to Blue Ridge Public Radio.

Jennifer Mullendore, the medical director of Buncombe County, North Carolina, was unambiguous: "We want to be clear: vaccination is the best protection from chickenpox."

"When we see high numbers of unimmunized children and adults, we know that an illness like chickenpox can spread easily throughout the community- into our playgrounds, grocery stores, and sports teams," she said in a news release.

But not all parents seemed to grasp the gravity of the outbreak. Nor does everyone see the rationale behind vaccines, which some believe - contrary to scientific evidence - cause more severe health issues than they're meant to cure. The claim of an autism risk, though it has been debunked, has remained a rallying cry of the anti-vaccine movement.

"What's the big deal with chickenpox?" one city resident, Amy Gordon, told the Citizen-Times.

Chickenpox is serious, warns the CDC, "even life-threatening, especially in babies, adolescents, adults, pregnant women and people with weakened immune systems."

The virus used to crop up in about 4 million cases annually in the United States, causing more than 10,000 hospitalizations and between 100 and 150 deaths. Children were especially susceptible, as schools seemed to incubate the blister-like rash, which appears first on the stomach, back and face and can spread over the entire surface of the body, creating as many as 500 itchy blisters.


That was before a two-dose vaccination program was licensed in the U.S. in 1995.

The vaccine, which the CDC says is about 90 percent effective, hasn't eliminated the varicella zoster virus, which causes chickenpox. But since the regimen became commercially available, it has reduced the number of cases, as well as their severity. A 14-year prospective study published in Pediatrics in 2013 found that the incidence of infection was nine- to 10-times lower than in the pre-vaccine era.

Still, the vaccine's clearly documented merits remain unconvincing to some. Asheville Waldorf has one of the highest religious vaccination exemption rates in the state, according to data maintained by the state's Department of Health and Human Services.

The private school has a higher rate of exemption on religious grounds than all but two other North Carolina schools, the Citizen-Times reported. During the 2017-18 school year, 19 of 28 kindergartners were exempt from at least one vaccine required by the state. Of the school's 152 students, 110 had not received the chickenpox vaccine, the newspaper reported.



North Carolina requires all students in the state to receive certain immunizations. Among the vaccines required for kindergarten-aged children are two doses for chickenpox, two for measles, and two for mumps. Seventh graders must again submit to immunization.

But the state also permits exemptions based on the advice of a physician - as well as on religious grounds.

"If the bona fide religious beliefs of an adult or the parent, guardian or person in loco parentis of a child are contrary to the immunization requirements contained in this Part, the adult or the child shall be exempt from the requirements," state statute allows.

Recent efforts to tighten the rules have foundered. In 2015, state legislators withdrew a bill that would have all but eliminated the religious exemption after their efforts were met with strident protest. Protesters picketed the state's General Assembly in Raleigh, warning of "Medical Terrorism."

Meanwhile, the county's medical director has been exhorting residents to immunize their children. "What happens when we lack community immunity? Measles is what happens," Mullendore this fall told commissioners of the county, which had the highest rate of religious exemptions last year.

The friction between medical experts and the residents in their care is not unique to Buncombe County, where the parents of 5.7 percent of kindergartners claimed a religious exemption, or even to North Carolina, where the rate was 1.2 percent.

Forty-seven states allow religious exemptions to vaccine requirements, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. CDC data shows that median percentage of kindergarteners not receiving one or more required vaccine was highest in Oregon.

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It's weird to me that there is now a chicken pox vaccine. When I was a kid it was just sort of something every kid went through.

This. Someone else mentioned his wife was hospitalized in third grade. I and all the other kids got it the summer of 1990. I think we’d just finished third grade. I just remember it sucking for a week or so and then everyone was out playing again. It’s totally news to me that there’s a vaccine.
 
This. Someone else mentioned his wife was hospitalized in third grade. I and all the other kids got it the summer of 1990. I think we’d just finished third grade. I just remember it sucking for a week or so and then everyone was out playing again. It’s totally news to me that there’s a vaccine.

I have heard that the disease is somehow less harsh on children and if someone didn't get it as a child but later got it as an adult it could be pretty bad.

Strange a disease that children handle pretty well but for adults it can be deadly. Not sure why it's like that.
 
I have heard that the disease is somehow less harsh on children and if someone didn't get it as a child but later got it as an adult it could be pretty bad.

Strange a disease that children handle pretty well but for adults it can be deadly. Not sure why it's like that.

Adults are at higher risk of complications (men more so than women), though I don't think there's a clear explanation as to why. Some think it's because kids' immune systems relies more on phagocytes and adults' on antibodies.

And just because you (that's the general you) had it without complications (hey, survivor bias) doesn't mean the person next to you will be fine if they get it. Babies, the immunocompromised, pregnant women, elderly, those with chronic illness...vaccinations aren't just about *you.*
 
Adults are at higher risk of complications (men more so than women), though I don't think there's a clear explanation as to why. Some think it's because kids' immune systems relies more on phagocytes and adults' on antibodies.

And just because you (that's the general you) had it without complications (hey, survivor bias) doesn't mean the person next to you will be fine if they get it. Babies, the immunocompromised, pregnant women, elderly, those with chronic illness...vaccinations aren't just about *you.*

Don't get me wrong I'm not arguing against a vaccine for it. If there is one then that's great and I'm pretty certain my kids got that vaccine.

But the whole thing is strange to me.
 
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Just allow providers and insurers to NOT cover any disease or subsequent complications from "voluntary non-vaccinations". Want the "religious exemption"? Kewl - now you're on the hook for 100% of your care costs associated with an outbreak, related complications AND the costs for anyone else you infect who could not be vaccinated due to medical/health reasons.

Print stories of people going broke paying for it (and don't allow for any welfare/Medicare as as a result of bankruptcies due to non-vaccinations).

Problem will eventually fix itself....

This is why we can’t get healthcare to work in this country. It’s no different than the problem of the uninsured. We aren’t willing to adequately punish bad behavior.
 
Just allow providers and insurers to NOT cover any disease or subsequent complications from "voluntary non-vaccinations". Want the "religious exemption"? Kewl - now you're on the hook for 100% of your care costs associated with an outbreak, related complications AND the costs for anyone else you infect who could not be vaccinated due to medical/health reasons.

Print stories of people going broke paying for it (and don't allow for any welfare/Medicare as as a result of bankruptcies due to non-vaccinations).

Problem will eventually fix itself....

This is why we can’t get healthcare to work in this country. It’s no different than the problem of the uninsured. We aren’t willing to adequately punish bad behavior.

The Somalians would not vaccinate and ended up with a measles outbreak a few years ago in mpls area.

So if you don't believe in vaccination because of religious beliefs do we like steralize them so they cant reproduce?

How would you handle punishment?

Bad behavior? Premarital sex? Talk about opening up a can of worms.
 
The Somalians would not vaccinate and ended up with a measles outbreak a few years ago in mpls area.

So if you don't believe in vaccination because of religious beliefs do we like steralize them so they cant reproduce?

How would you handle punishment?

Bad behavior? Premarital sex? Talk about opening up a can of worms.

The Somalis were targeted by anti-vax/pro-disease groups as soon as they arrived, scaring them into not vaccinating.

No major or major-ish religion prohibits vaccinating.
 
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