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Anyone think Fran will hightail it out of IC for East?

Stony Brook is an entry level job. Siena was a better job than stony brook.

That's why I chuckle at the guy hyping Rutgers for hiring the stony brook coach. Not that you can't find a good one at a school like that, but this guy has a huge hurdle to even build a respectable team.
 
Plenty of places that haven't sniffed the tournament...Its freaking amatuer hour around this place. Pull you head out.

Amateur hour is what we witnessed on the court today and much of the last third of the season. Thinking that a 57 year old coach that can't make it through the second round of the tournament and chokes routinely in the Big Ten Tournament is on the top of anyone's wish list, seems incredibly far-fetched.

Fran is an OK coach and I'm definitely not on the fire Fran bandwagon. I just don't see him as one of the top 10 available coaching candidates.
 
Where would he go?

Syracuse is the only major job opening up soon, but they have a replacement in Hopkins lined up.
Maybe Boston College in a couple years?
Providence has a long term fix at coach
Kevin Ollie might go NBA, but he has a big cushion at uconn with the ring
St. John's just hired chris mullin
Seton hall's coach just won big east coach of the year
Rutgers is not a major program, they are horrible beyond words
JT3 is not getting fired from Georgetown
Jay Wright is a lifer at Villanova
Tiurgeon on is pretty secure at Maryland

Maybe the Temple job of Dunphy gets fired? But temple has no money and only pay their coach $600k?

He is not going to leave Iowa for an Atlantic ten or colonial or patriot league job.

Just read on this board that at least one sports writer out east is already linking him potentially to the Pitt job if that comes open by Dixon taking the TCU gig.
 
I don't think that he is going anywhere. Nor do I want him to go. He has done exactly what we all were hoping for, in getting Iowa back to the ncaa tournament. I don't think he has peaked here.

Agree. Fran has done what I had hoped he would. We have not seen his next set of recruits play yet. The guys that just graduated are really to me part of the first wave of getting back to relevance. Together they got a lot of mileage out of what they really had. Each had limitations but collectively they figured out how to play well at times and win some games.

What's to say we cannot catch lightning in a bottle over the next couple of years if we stay the course? Maybe we land a player or two that is under-the-radar and not discovered by the big dogs in time. Fran seems to have an eye for talent. He also continues to rack up experience on this level so that's not all bad either and should have a better idea of what works and what does not.

I know it drives some of you crazy to bring up Lick and I do have some confidence that we will not hire a Lick again but at the same time it's still a risk when you hire anyone. There are absolutely no guarantees. The longer we have Fran, the more stable our job becomes if we want to attract a good candidate next time. I'd rather hire when a coach leaves on his own accord then after a firing any day. Firing sends a bad message about your job. Coaches do consider the patience and support a program and fan base shows which is especially important in a small population state with limited elite players. It's not an easy job when you are also competing in one of the elite bball conferences. Perspective is always important.
 
Fran brought us out of the basement in short order. The climb to the top floors takes more time. Be patient.

Yes, 6 years is not enough time. Need more time, maybe 6 more years then hopefully that is enough time by then.
 
Please name a school that is a better gig than Iowa that is looking to hire a guy that is 57 years old. I'll hang up and listen to your answer.

It sounds like Pittsburgh might be looking sooner than later 57 or not?
 
Just read on this board that at least one sports writer out east is already linking him potentially to the Pitt job if that comes open by Dixon taking the TCU gig.

For real northeast people, we consider pen state the Midwest. Pitt is definitely not an east coast school.

If Fran goes to Pitt, you should just hire Dixon. Fair trade. Dixon is a great coach, I don't care if people get overworked about a few tourney losses. He was one Scottie reynold basket away from the final four a few years ago.
 
Pathetic, short-sighted rants.... A new coach doesn't fix things. There are many examples of new coaches never achieving the heights of the previous coach. I mean Fran already ha more tourney wins than Lickliter and Alford combined. You guys are glass half-empty crowd and I'd hope no one takes you too seriously.

Steven Alford at Iowa, just for one example.
 
Just read on this board that at least one sports writer out east is already linking him potentially to the Pitt job if that comes open by Dixon taking the TCU gig.

Wow, they're not exactly shooting for the moon, are they?
 
Feeling the same way towards you. Why do you want to start over every few years? You would lose Cook, Bohannon and who knows who else.
Define "few"...also, why are you okay with Iowa State and Wisconsin having tons of success, but not Iowa?
 
So a "prominising up and comer" makes him a great hire?

Steve Alford and Todd Licklighter say hello. Both were very well regarded before coming to Iowa. So was Frank Lauterbur.
Definitely not a Steve Alford fan, but mentioning Alford and Lickliter together is not really compatible. Iowa was able to rebound under Fran and it is not Fran like is/was the only mid-major impact coach in the country. Iowa needs a recruiter like Ravelling.
 
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The world did not end. We got beat by a better team. Considering where Iowa was when Fran hired, believe he is doing solid job and is doing his best to recruit long, lean, running, athletic players.

Transition is not easy. Ralph Miller leaves, next coach was Dick Schultz and we went backwards. Same with Alford replacing Dr Tom. And Lick?

We should support the coach and the team
 
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Stony Brook is an entry level job. Siena was a better job than stony brook.

That's why I chuckle at the guy hyping Rutgers for hiring the stony brook coach. Not that you can't find a good one at a school like that, but this guy has a huge hurdle to even build a respectable team.

Hey I accidentally hijacked this thread once and don't mean to again and I guess as I enter my twilight years I don't care for getting laughed at. I thought the Stony Brook coach had a nice resume and read the story at BTN.com and they liked the hire and see that AD making some waves. Rutgers at this time doesn't have the same pull as we would if we would have to replace Fran as in the subject of this thread and that much I agree.
 
Coaching salary (including assistants)
Recruiting
Travel expenses
Team marketing, or type stuff
Player scholarships, room and board
Training facilities
Facility rentals
Body bag buy games

Similar to football but much smaller scale. Coaching salaries are a big chunk, but the training facilities and such at the big east school are incredible. And they don't share with football. It's like a private country club for those twelve hoops players. Big ten facilities I, sure are amazing as well, but the hoops focused facilities won't be any better than the big east facilities.

School like Rutgers has to start running a a balanced budget. And generally most of the big ten schools (not Michigan state or Indiana,but others), really out as much as they can into football (Rutgers is doing that too, they just don't have much). But for the big east, the hoops product is essential. The schools will lose money in hoops if they have to. St. John's operating budget has almost doubled the past row years to over ten million. They aren't earning ten million, more like eight or nine, but they don't mind losing money on hoops. DePaul too. A school like Rutgers can't do that. Penn State has tons of money but they have never had a basketball operating budget comparable to most big east teams.

If Georgetown or providence has to take a five million dollar hit to find hoops, that's nothing. It's worth it to those schools. For Rutgers to do so would really cut into their bottom line m

LOL. Do you realize how much money Iowa football makes? You don't share with football, you get to share with it.

Iowas athletic department is one of the most profitable in the country.
 
I am interested to see how this year's freshman class and the incoming class develop. I think these two classes are more representative of what type of player Fran thinks can make the program more successful. I certainly hope, though, that someone on the team steps up for some leadership.

And judging by the team's late season woes, I'm not sure how desirable Fran really is to another program at this given moment.
 
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Even though I think next year will be a step backwards (the first for Fran) I am super excited to see what Fran does with the added athleticism (and shooting) in the guard court. I'm thinking things will look more like the Marble teams where the D was suspect, the offense put up tons of points, and the team lives on the FT line...oh and MORE PRESSING.

I'm excited for the McCaffery era to turn its page to the second chapter.
 
So he has one shitty season, and the "luster is off?"

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And he's actually had two clunkers at Arkansas and one slightly above average season in the SEC when the conference was as down as it has been in a decade. But that's on top of all the other stuff he does, which we won't get into.)

How many shitty seasons has Kirk had in the last decade? What will your opinion of Kirk be if he fails to get his next team back into the Top 10 with an overwhelming amount of returning contributors, something that he has failed to do on multiple occasions in his Iowa tenure? (Not want Iowa to hire Bret Bielema. That's for sure. ;))

You can't possibly be serious with this shit. (I am serious and it's not sh**, if it's getting the response I intended. :cool:)
 
Jamie Dixon going to TCU makes no sense to me, other than it is his alma mater. Is that enough? If he has always dreamed of coaching @ TCU then he may go. He is already established at a good basketball school in a great conference. I think Dixon stays at Pitt and Frannie stays here. I hope both are correct.
 
If Fran leaves who do we get as his successor?
Peter Jok. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who heard Jok has been earmarked as Fran's replacement. I guess it's pretty serious.
 
Wow, you people are brutal. Fran is a good coach, and I'm not sure who you would bring in that would do a better job. Do you think Minnesota would like to have Tubby back right now? The biggest problem Fran has is attracting high level talent. The central part of the country is not a population hotspot, and Iowa doesn't have the brand-name like Kansas to recruit nationwide. Fran needs to hire a recruiter that could work Chicago and Michigan and maybe Southern California or Texas. The most successful teams Iowa had in the past had stars like BJ Armstrong, and Roy Marble, both Michigan natives. There's plenty of talent in our state, so even if Michigan and MSU pluck a few top players, there's plenty left for other teams to recruit and be successful. With regard to Frans abrasive personality, you may want your AD or President to tell him to tone it down a bit.
 
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