B1G Session 3 PBP / Comments

[1stplacehawk]

8 guys in the top 4. Not bad

 

[Irishhawkeye2107]

Burak was stalling, glad it was called. He was clearly running away. I don't know why they give a warning.....stalling should be a point. Pretty much every 1 point match has stalling for the last 30 seconds if there has not been a warning given.

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

Originally posted by dicemen99:
McCutcheon got dinged pretty good at the end of his match and was limping pretty bad as he gutted out the last :30 seconds.

My guess here is that you guys are going to get a win an an extra 2 points at 84 in the 3/4. Just a guess, it could have been one of those tweaks that you can walk off later. But it didn't look good.

Thanks for the info, dice. Sorry to hear that about McCutcheon, but those points could prove crucial if McCutcheon can't go. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. Hopefully McCutcheon bounces back in time for Nationals and it's nothing serious.

 

[Shafthawk]

Perfect opportunity to reward the aggressive wrestler on a very close call, that was originally called a TD.


I think the refs are apparently wanting more of this ride the ankle for 4 seconds, move up, then start it again for wins. Our guys are gonna adjust to what the refs will let them get away with too. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

 

[HIWILLE]

Originally posted by Hawktagonapus:
Take your takedown away and then give you a stall warning 20s later? What a joke.

WTF! Who was the ref that called that.fking horrible

 

[Shafthawk]

Originally posted by Irishhawkeye2107:
Burak was stalling, glad it was called. He was clearly running away. I don't know why they give a warning.....stalling should be a point. Pretty much every 1 point match has stalling for the last 30 seconds if there has not been a warning given.

Why wouldn't he? The wrestlers will adapt and get away with exactly what the refs will allow them to.

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

Originally posted by Irishhawkeye2107:
Burak was stalling, glad it was called. He was clearly running away. I don't know why they give a warning.....stalling should be a point. Pretty much every 1 point match has stalling for the last 30 seconds if there has not been a warning given.

I do think it would help if every stalling call came with at least 1 point to the opponent. Currently, if a guy has no warnings, he'll take the warning as long as there's no point awarded -- and if he's up by 2, he'll concede the point. If it goes 1-1-2-2-DQ, or something like that, guys won't be nearly as willing to take the first stalling call. Of course, the refs have to have some guts and make the call, too, and that's most of the problem under the current rules.

 

[Jackhawk87]

9th place matches after 7th place matches?

 

[whatsup12579er]

WWDMHawkeye and Vall thanks for the play by play! It's a joke that BTN makes you pay and KXIC can't run a live feed

 

[1stplacehawk]

Originally posted by WWDMHawkeye:

Originally posted by Irishhawkeye2107:
Burak was stalling, glad it was called. He was clearly running away. I don't know why they give a warning.....stalling should be a point. Pretty much every 1 point match has stalling for the last 30 seconds if there has not been a warning given.

I do think it would help if every stalling call came with at least 1 point to the opponent. Currently, if a guy has no warnings, he'll take the warning as long as there's no point awarded -- and if he's up by 2, he'll concede the point. If it goes 1-1-2-2-DQ, or something like that, guys won't be nearly as willing to take the first stalling call. Of course, the refs have to have some guts and make the call, too, and that's most of the problem under the current rules.

The refs would be even more cautious to call it and it wouldn't do any good

 

[Vallholl]

I have idea, I will send my cell ph# to you via fb and the we can communicate better for PBP.

WWDMHawkeye posted on 3/8/2015...
VALL -- CAN YOU GET THE BURAK MATCH?

 

[TDJ7]

Just to let everyone know this Penn St/Minnesota hoops game will go to Overtime or run late just to piss us off. Never fails.

 

[SPOONER]

Originally posted by HIWILLE:

Originally posted by Hawktagonapus:
Take your takedown away and then give you a stall warning 20s later? What a joke.

WTF! Who was the ref that called that.fking horrible

Lol come on, Willy. He was running away. Blatant stalling.

The stalling rules don't need to be changed. They need to be enforced.

 

[Nipigu]

Originally posted by WWDMHawkeye:

Originally posted by Nipigu:

Originally posted by IaPhoneMan4Hawks:
Yes ruling was foot was up and came down on the grey ob 1st

I don't understand that though. The foot can be off the mat as long as it's inside the cylinder of the mat. I just be confused.

The problem is that Burak's foot got dragged OOB and touched the mat OOB. It later came down in bounds but had already touched OOB.

Thanks, I'll watch it again later. I certainly don't know more than the official, but any part of the body inside the mat cylinder is all it takes. If his foot was in the air but in the cylinder and he had control that's it. I probably have the sequence wrong in my mind.

 

[Sett1997]

Originally posted by SPOONER:

Originally posted by HIWILLE:

Originally posted by Hawktagonapus:
Take your takedown away and then give you a stall warning 20s later? What a joke.

WTF! Who was the ref that called that.fking horrible

Lol come on, Willy. He was running away. Blatant stalling.

The stalling rules don't need to be changed. They need to be enforced.

Another obvious tweak that would help is the one point push out as we have discussed a million times. It's a no brainer.

 

[PrairieHawk24]

What time are the placing matches?

 

[Nipigu]

Originally posted by Hawktagonapus:
Take your takedown away and then give you a stall warning 20s later? What a joke.

He was stalling and he knew he could take it. Good job.

 

[Vallholl]

Ironside and Grace are not sure how they are going to have the Championships in 25 min.

 

[Stanley75]

Originally posted by TDJ7:
Just to let everyone know this Penn St/Minnesota hoops game will go to Overtime or run late just to piss us off. Never fails.

It happens, like the girls OT game gipped us out of the 125 match.last airing.

 

[Chuck C]

MSU had one guy finish 8th, on the positive side though they won't finish dead last unless Marylands HWT pins his guy.

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

Originally posted by Nipigu:

Originally posted by WWDMHawkeye:

Originally posted by Nipigu:

Originally posted by IaPhoneMan4Hawks:
Yes ruling was foot was up and came down on the grey ob 1st

I don't understand that though. The foot can be off the mat as long as it's inside the cylinder of the mat. I just be confused.

The problem is that Burak's foot got dragged OOB and touched the mat OOB. It later came down in bounds but had already touched OOB.

Thanks, I'll watch it again later. I certainly don't know more than the official, but any part of the body inside the mat cylinder is all it takes. If his foot was in the air but in the cylinder and he had control that's it. I probably have the sequence wrong in my mind.

I had a good view online. It was close, but I do think his toe got dragged OOB briefly. Beautiful shot, though.

 

[HIWILLE]

Originally posted by SPOONER:

Originally posted by HIWILLE:

Originally posted by Hawktagonapus:
Take your takedown away and then give you a stall warning 20s later? What a joke.

WTF! Who was the ref that called that.fking horrible

Lol come on, Willy. He was running away. Blatant stalling.

The stalling rules don't need to be changed. They need to be enforced.

 

[LutherAce]

Courts losing to Illinois...doing his part...

This post was edited on 3/8 1:43 PM by LutherAce

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

BTW, Reyes of IL is leading Courts of tOSU, 5-3, with about :30 left.

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

And Reyes beats Courts, 7-3.

 

[Nipigu]

Yes!

 

[HawkinK.C.1]

Moore will start on bottom in the 2nd 0-0

 

[LutherAce]

kelly up 2-0, late in second

 

[Chuck C]

Moore and Frey 0-0 after 1
Kelly up 2-0 late in the 2nd

 

[xjohnx]

What is going on with the Kelly match? Stuck in place on track

 

[RPWinni0]

Thanks WWD and VAll, you are all I've got here in Georgetown , TX

 

[HawkinK.C.1]

locked hands on Hammond, Moore leads 1-0

 

[xjohnx]

Did Moore get a penalty point? Up 2-0 after an escape to start the 2nd.

 

[Nipigu]

Originally posted by WWDMHawkeye:
I had a good view online. It was close, but I do think his toe got dragged OOB briefly. Beautiful shot, though.

Probably so. I think the officials get it right far more than I do from my living room. Thank goodness the call didn't matter though.

 

[HawkinK.C.1]

Stall on Kelly, a point to Frey

 

[BRANDONJ8]

i thought moore and kelly are no longer in it.

 

[Herky the Uruk-hai]

The never stall mindset is not correct. If you have the lead and have been pushing action all along then you saved up the right to use the warning. The right thing is to circle and guard, don't give up anything and get ready to cross face somebody's head off when they take a long shot. It is not cheap, if you put yourself in the lead then you have every right in the world to do it and win.

 

[Chuck C]

Originally posted by BRANDONJ8:
i thought moore and kelly are no longer in it.

They are wrestling for 9th, for an NCAA bid

 

[whatsup12579er]

Originally posted by BRANDONJ8:
i thought moore and kelly are no longer in it.

Me too? Can someone explain?

 

[Multi-Hawk]

Good job Kelly.