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Battle of Waterloo

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Going on this weekend. Usually have some good individual matches and team competition. Anybody have any insight into results?
 
Brackets are on there. Video is on Rokfin.
Couldn't find anything on trackwrestling, not even brackets. The link to the tournament is a dead end.
Not impressed but one gets what they pay (or don't) for.
 
Couldn't find anything on trackwrestling, not even brackets. The link to the tournament is a dead end.
Not impressed but one gets what they pay (or don't) for.
Brackets are on track and you can see them for free, so yes, you actually get more than what you pay for.
 
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He’s very good.
Click on his name in the hyper link on the 2nd post in this thread. Lots of info from there.
 
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This isn’t a shot at any Iowa high school wrestlers, but it’s amazing how many of our fans complain that we don’t recruit/land the top 10/top 20 pfp guys in the country, and then fawn over good not great in state recruits like they’re can’t miss and gotta have guys. Recruiting only Iowa is what got us in trouble in the early to mid 2010s.
 
This isn’t a shot at any Iowa high school wrestlers, but it’s amazing how many of our fans complain that we don’t recruit/land the top 10/top 20 pfp guys in the country, and then fawn over good not great in state recruits like they’re can’t miss and gotta have guys. Recruiting only Iowa is what got us in trouble in the early to mid 2010s.
I fail to see the fawning here. I only see a couple posters say he is a good/not great wrestler at this point. Are you speaking in general?
 
I fail to see the fawning here. I only see a couple posters say he is a good/not great wrestler at this point. Are you speaking in general?
Just in general. But reading between the lines of a few posts here. But I’m mostly speaking in general because it happens a lot on here especially around the state tournament.

Edit to add: I’m guilty of this in the past.
 
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Just in general. But reading between the lines of a few posts here. But I’m mostly speaking in general because it happens a lot on here especially around the state tournament.

Edit to add: I’m guilty of this in the past.

I agree with you. This is one small example but you’re also right on the mark overall.

BTW, the mighty have fallen quickly in Iowa HS wrestling. Lisbon and NHTV are in bracket 6 today. Denver is in bracket 8. Wow.
 
He just placed 5th at the Gable Donnybrook. He's a good wrestler for sure but definitely not elite or a top prospect at this point.
I was a bit surprised at his finish in that one. He is up to 170 now and maybe finding life tougher at that weight. Good kid, still a junior.
 
I was a bit surprised at his finish in that one. He is up to 170 now and maybe finding life tougher at that weight. Good kid, still a junior.

The guy who beat him is a defending state champ in Illinois.

He just got beat by someone better. It isn’t more complex than that.
 
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I was a bit surprised at his finish in that one. He is up to 170 now and maybe finding life tougher at that weight. Good kid, still a junior.

Is really a senior though as he loved 8th grade so much he tried it again.

His dad is a true piece of work.
 
I agree with you. This is one small example but you’re also right on the mark overall.

BTW, the mighty have fallen quickly in Iowa HS wrestling. Lisbon and NHTV are in bracket 6 today. Denver is in bracket 8. Wow.
Pool 7 but yeah, you're not wrong.
 
Is really a senior though as he loved 8th grade so much he tried it again.

Serious question....can he compete an extra year?

Know nothing about the kid, but most states you get 6 years from the start of 7th grade.
 
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Serious question....can he compete an extra year?

No nothing about the kid, but most states you get 6 years from the start of 7th grade.

Someone will probably correct this but at last count in Iowa you get 8 semesters of high school and you can’t compete once you’re 20.


Is really a senior though as he loved 8th grade so much he tried it again.

His dad is a true piece of work.

Not sure how relevant this is. He has solid performances nationally which are based on age not grade. Solid college prospect. Not a blue chipper.
 
Someone will probably correct this but at last count in Iowa you get 8 semesters of high school and you can’t compete once you’re 20

That would be weird, since 7th graders can...and do....compete at the varsity level. Hell some 7th graders dominate.
 
Does someone know what tiebreaker they used to determine Osage as winner?

I thought round-robins in team competition usually used team point differentials between the round-robin teams.

WSR beat Ankeny by 8
Ankeny beat Osage by 1
Osage beat WSR by 4
So WSR had a + 4 point differential, Osage was +3, and Ankeny was -7. Based on point differential between the three round-robin teams, WSR would be the winner.

Did they also include point differentials from the meets against Bosco? Osage hammered Bosco by 20 so that would make them the winner in that scenario.
 
That would be weird, since 7th graders can...and do....compete at the varsity level. Hell some 7th graders dominate.

Not in Iowa they don’t. And I don’t know why that’s “weird.” Most states do not allow 7th graders to compete in varsity sports.
 
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Does someone know what tiebreaker they used to determine Osage as winner?

I thought round-robins in team competition usually used team point differentials between the round-robin teams.

WSR beat Ankeny by 8
Ankeny beat Osage by 1
Osage beat WSR by 4
So WSR had a + 4 point differential, Osage was +3, and Ankeny was -7. Based on point differential between the three round-robin teams, WSR would be the winner.

Did they also include point differentials from the meets against Bosco? Osage hammered Bosco by 20 so that would make them the winner in that scenario.
I believe I read in the Courier it went to 4th tiebreaker which was fewest penalty points and Osage had zero. Not sure how accurate that is though FWIW
 
Announcer said Osage won a tiebreaker by having the most match wins in the 3 championship pool duals.
I left as soon as the wrestling ended.

My kid wrestles at Ankeny. When he got home I asked who won? He said “Osage, they had the fewest penalty points.”

That’s what Ankeny was told, but I can’t guarantee what they were told was accurate.
 
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