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Exactly. I don't mind seeing a te screen and some crosses but let's get aggressive and let Cade recognize where and when we are set up to attack. The kid has a history of getting into the right play and we should take advantage if it. Cade has a chip on his shoulder as does the whole offense. Let's rake advantage of it.
Funny thing is we’ve never had a quarterback with Cade’s skill and talent transfer in and start since maybe Brad Banks. If our quarterback coach is like this is how it’s done then we’ve got a quarterback that has won a big ten title, been to the cfp playoffs that can be like, “Naw. That’s not it.”
 
Funny thing is we’ve never had a quarterback with Cade’s skill and talent transfer in and start since maybe Brad Banks. If our quarterback coach is like this is how it’s done then we’ve got a quarterback that has won a big ten title, been to the cfp playoffs that can be like, “Naw. That’s not it.”
From Cades past playing he's never been afraid of calling out of a bad call. Hope that doesn't change.
 
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So what exactly is it you’d like them to do better… I know I’d like them to throw the ball better. We had a lot of open wide receivers last year in our bad scheme“… I’d also like our wide receivers to catch it when he hits them in the hands… Oh, and I’d also like them to block people that are right in front of them.?!

What would you fix?….

When you factor in the missed blocks, the bad snaps the bad passes the drop passes the not seeing open receivers. Hell you’re talking about 30+ percent of the snaps that we took… That wouldn’t fix the offense immensely? Help me I’m pretty confused?
Well a start would be getting rid of the OC who ranked in bottom 5% 2 years ago amongst his peers and bottom 1% a year ago. Lot of stuff to fix and zero confidence he’s the guy to fix it if we are just going to stick to the status quo like he said.
 
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Well a start would be getting rid of the OC who ranked in bottom 5% 2 years ago amongst his peers and bottom 1% a year ago. Lot of stuff to fix and zero confidence he’s the guy to fix it if we are just going to stick to the status quo like he said.

I agree….but that’s not scheme
 
And again, what will you say if it does?
More concerned about the transfer QB's health & well being coming off of knee work behind an OLine that has had no big name infusion of portal help.
If things improve, good.
If not, there's always (on a short term basis) infinitely more exciting Waldorf football nearby.
 
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More concerned about the transfer QB's health & well being coming off of knee work behind an OLine that has had no big name infusion of portal help.
If things improve, good.
If not, there's always (on a short term basis) infinitely more exciting Waldorf football nearby.

Hmmmm, yes I see…here is a sampling of their games last year!

Oct 1PresentationW, 48-3
Oct 8at Mayville StateW, 28-21
Oct 15at Dickinson State (ND)L, 50-7
Oct 22Valley City StateL, 35-14
Nov 5Iowa WesleyanW, 7-3
Nov 12at Dakota State (SD)L, 13-0

Lots of excitement there in that 50-7 loss, 7-3 win and 13-0 loss….

Honestly I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but WTF?

Please go watch Waldorf that’s your speed, but don’t give us bullshit about how exciting they are!
 
Hmmmm, yes I see…here is a sampling of their games last year!

Oct 1PresentationW, 48-3
Oct 8at Mayville StateW, 28-21
Oct 15at Dickinson State (ND)L, 50-7
Oct 22Valley City StateL, 35-14
Nov 5Iowa WesleyanW, 7-3
Nov 12at Dakota State (SD)L, 13-0

Lots of excitement there in that 50-7 loss, 7-3 win and 13-0 loss….

Honestly I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but WTF?

Please go watch Waldorf that’s your speed, but don’t give us bullshit about how exciting they are!
They. Have. OFFENSE.
No need for eye drops after the games due to unwatchability.
Over the last several years, they have been quite entertaining.
Started watching them due to friends having kids on their roster.
 
I agree….but that’s not scheme
Could always add new wrinkles to the scheme. In doing so having a fresh perspective (new OC) could’ve been greatly beneficial. I’m not going to kid myself and think Kirk is going to reinvent the wheel and change his offense but I think their are far better minds that could get better production and add new elements to the already existing offense to make it more effective.

Also as another poster stated better late then never with portal but Iowa is a year late to the party and should’ve been more aggressive in hind sight previous year with glaring deficiencies at namely OL and QB.
 
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They. Have. OFFENSE.
No need for eye drops after the games due to unwatchability.
Over the last several years, they have been quite entertaining.
Started watching them due to friends having kids on their roster.

Dude those scores I just showed make you senile, if that’s offense. Am I missing something here cuz?0, 7, 7, 14 points scored! Your full of crap!
 
Exactly. I don't mind seeing a te screen and some crosses but let's get aggressive and let Cade recognize where and when we are set up to attack. The kid has a history of getting into the right play and we should take advantage if it. Cade has a chip on his shoulder as does the whole offense. Let's rake advantage of it.
How about we wait to see what they actually allow Cade to do before we start bemoaning his supposed leash that hasn't happened yet. Brian said what he did, basically telling the reporter to F--k off. They didn't bring Cade here to not give him any part in the offense.
 
Funny thing is we’ve never had a quarterback with Cade’s skill and talent transfer in and start since maybe Brad Banks. If our quarterback coach is like this is how it’s done then we’ve got a quarterback that has won a big ten title, been to the cfp playoffs that can be like, “Naw. That’s not it.”
So are you going to actually wait until they play, and see what they actually do let him do, or just start your bitching now, 5 months before the first game? Never mind, I already know the answer to that.....
 
Well, I’ve seen a lot of press conferences… Not sure I can agree. Most coaches are doing that! But sure, that’s the way to go… And undoubtably he could’ve been less argumentative per se… But really weren’t we gonna nitpick any and everything he said, right?

I’ve been on this board a long time, close to 23 years I think. The segment of fans that are up in arms about Brian Ferentz would complain if he offered them a years worth of ice cream!
no that's not true. he has had one of the the worst offenses in the last two years. To say nothing has changed is just dumb. I hope they do well this year but I don't have a real positive outlook based on that presser.
 
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no that's not true. he has had one of the the worst offenses in the last two years. To say nothing has changed is just dumb. I hope they do well this year but I don't have a real positive outlook based on that presser.

Well if your basing your life expectations on press conferences, then yes…I’d wager your going to have a pretty dismal outlook on life period!
 
So what exactly is it you’d like them to do better… I know I’d like them to throw the ball better. We had a lot of open wide receivers last year in our bad scheme“… I’d also like our wide receivers to catch it when he hits them in the hands… Oh, and I’d also like them to block people that are right in front of them.?!

What would you fix?….

When you factor in the missed blocks, the bad snaps the bad passes the drop passes the not seeing open receivers. Hell you’re talking about 30+ percent of the snaps that we took… That wouldn’t fix the offense immensely? Help me I’m pretty confused?
I have a few thoughts on this:

1. Coaches possess responsibility for "execution" problems too. They recruit these players, they train them. The coaches are not absolved from blame if the players suck. This isn't high school where the coach is at the mercy of whatever talent happens to reside in his school district. Iowa isn't Ohio in terms of in-state talent, yet somehow we manage to consistently recruit and develop NFL talent at C, OT, TE, DL, LB, S and CB. It's not impossible to bring in good football players to the University of Iowa. In short, offensive personnel problems fall on the feet of the coaching staff. Also, yes there was bad luck last year w/injuries and transfers, but these offensive problems go back almost 20 years now. Even when we have a good crop of offensive talent, the production still isn't there.

2. BF is getting paid, like, $850,000 per year and the offense has been objectively poor throughout his tenure. He can get salty with the media but I'm not going to sympathize with someone who is making $850,000/yr while overseeing an unsuccessful product (Iowa's offense) all while working for and being protected by his dad.

3. This is speculation but I think Kirk is the #1 reason that the offense is the way that it is. I think BF actually has some creativity to him and has shown it at times but is severely constrained by Kirk's desire to avoid spread/option/RPO concepts. Also, the offensive problems pre-date BF.

4. Also speculation, but I suspect that Kirk is reluctant to change because he just really loves that outside zone play with all of its intricate and coordinated blocking. I think Kirk finds it beautiful and elegant while he also finds the spread/zone-read/RPO stuff simplistic and inelegant, at least in terms of the blocking scheme. Another thing is that the outside zone is what Kirk knows so that's what he teaches. I can see the hesitancy and reluctance to try and teach concepts that he doesn't feel like he has a deep understanding of.
 
I have a few thoughts on this:

1. Coaches possess responsibility for "execution" problems too. They recruit these players, they train them. The coaches are not absolved from blame if the players suck. This isn't high school where the coach is at the mercy of whatever talent happens to reside in his school district. Iowa isn't Ohio in terms of in-state talent, yet somehow we manage to consistently recruit and develop NFL talent at C, OT, TE, DL, LB, S and CB. It's not impossible to bring in good football players to the University of Iowa. In short, offensive personnel problems fall on the feet of the coaching staff. Also, yes there was bad luck last year w/injuries and transfers, but these offensive problems go back almost 20 years now. Even when we have a good crop of offensive talent, the production still isn't there.

2. BF is getting paid, like, $850,000 per year and the offense has been objectively poor throughout his tenure. He can get salty with the media but I'm not going to sympathize with someone who is making $850,000/yr while overseeing an unsuccessful product (Iowa's offense) all while working for and being protected by his dad.

3. This is speculation but I think Kirk is the #1 reason that the offense is the way that it is. I think BF actually has some creativity to him and has shown it at times but is severely constrained by Kirk's desire to avoid spread/option/RPO concepts. Also, the offensive problems pre-date BF.

4. Also speculation, but I suspect that Kirk is reluctant to change because he just really loves that outside zone play with all of its intricate and coordinated blocking. I think Kirk finds it beautiful and elegant while he also finds the spread/zone-read/RPO stuff simplistic and inelegant, at least in terms of the blocking scheme. Another thing is that the outside zone is what Kirk knows so that's what he teaches. I can see the hesitancy and reluctance to try and teach concepts that he doesn't feel like he has a deep understanding of.

I agree with all of this!!!
 
Well if your basing your life expectations on press conferences, then yes…I’d wager your going to have a pretty dismal outlook on life period!
Well, at least uninformed. Who would want coaches talking about changes they were making in their offense? "If my hair knew what my mind was thinking I'd shave my head." Duke of Wellington.
 
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This is speculation but I think Kirk is the #1 reason that the offense is the way that it is. I think BF actually has some creativity to him and has shown it at times but is severely constrained by Kirk's desire to avoid spread/option/RPO concepts.

Pretty spot on. Based on what I've heard there is a tug and pull contest over the basic offensive schemes. BF has publicly said in the past that we need to score faster. I do know there was a blow out after the Wisconsin loss in 2019. Came out with a much more creative game plan in the first half of each game, jumped on leads and then back to the slow mo predictable offense in the second half. The bowl game play calling was great as was the game plan.

More than anything the game plans have been limited by a QB with major execution problems. I think there will be a major improvement, as in scoring twice as many points as last season's offense.
 
They promoted and started Spencer Petras for three goddamned years. The very first comment I ever heard from his wide receivers was a reply to the question “What’s it like playing WR for Petras?”

Their reply?

“It hurts”

Moronic QB coaching & philosophy. The goal is to complete passes, not throw the goddamned ball late and as hard as humanly possible.
Petras starting the last two years makes me believe in conspiracy theories! There isn’t one good reason he was playing and a coach of Ferentz’ tenure continuing to throw him out there with zero success is just impossible for a reasonable person to understand. There has to be a non-football reason!!
 
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Well, at least uninformed. Who would want coaches talking about changes they were making in their offense? "If my hair knew what my mind was thinking I'd shave my head." Duke of Wellington.

I always love talking to people that get their knowledge from a lifetime of Ernst thought…

I haven’t even thought of someone like…The Duke of Wellington… in 100 years, and only simply because of the kind of learning we used to get in the school!

You’ve sent me on a quote chasing search! Intriguing historical person!

Thanks!!!
 
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Pretty spot on. Based on what I've heard there is a tug and pull contest over the basic offensive schemes. BF has publicly said in the past that we need to score faster. I do know there was a blow out after the Wisconsin loss in 2019. Came out with a much more creative game plan in the first half of each game, jumped on leads and then back to the slow mo predictable offense in the second half. The bowl game play calling was great as was the game plan.

More than anything the game plans have been limited by a QB with major execution problems. I think there will be a major improvement, as in scoring twice as many points as last season's offense.

This is & was my hope when BF got hired! My real fear is, and I guess some of these cats don’t get this! But who the hell wants to run O under KF. I promise you his son doesn’t anymore!! Hence said interview. He doesn’t care what he says. He’ll still do his best, he CARES, he just doesn’t care what the media thinks?!

He’ll do the best he can and he’ll go from there.

As I’ve now said 100 years ago, AND 100 plus times! KOK was the perfect OC for KF…. He was an old enough friend. He still was going to fight for what you believe it… And I really thought so Brian would be OK. OK on steroids it just hasn’t worked out that way, 😝!!

Whose fault it is, is honestly irrelevant and likely both, but don’t get confused KF IS deep involved!
 
Petras starting the last two years makes me believe in conspiracy theories! There isn’t one good reason he was playing and a coach of Ferentz’ tenure continuing to throw him out there with zero success is just impossible for a reasonable person to understand. There has to be a non-football reason!!

The best quarterback we played last year is now third string, because we brought in 2 transfers!! AND before someone throws it out for sure….that was after being the only real option and a month of bowl prep!

OUR QBs were bad!!
 
Come on. Brian is on easy street in Iowa City with the media and fans. Try this act in Columbus or Lincoln or Ann Arbor, let alone in an Auburn or Athens, Georgia. The media and fans would be ten times worse.
other than columbus, all those places have had long stretches of futility this century. i would surmise that others have had the equivalent of bf’s cushy life. if reports are correct, bf has a sword dangling over his head— can’t ask for more as motivation to succeed. it happens this year or we get a new piñata.
 
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other than columbus, all those places have had long stretches of futility this century. others have had the equivalent of bf’s cushy life. if reports are correct, bf has a sword dangling over his head— can’t ask for more as motivation to succeed. it happens this year or we get a new piñata.
I believe if BF doesnt meet the goals that are set, dad goes with him.
 
other than columbus, all those places have had long stretches of futility this century. i would surmise that others have had the equivalent of bf’s cushy life. if reports are correct, bf has a sword dangling over his head— can’t ask for more as motivation to succeed. it happens this year or we get a new piñata.

This IS “The” outlook!! Good, bad or indifferent!
 
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By the way, it's you're.
Not senile (yet).

Friend , you have, for 2 plus weeks, sang the virtues of the Mighty Waldorf offense! I actually assumed it had merit and they we’re running up and down the field in an option offense ( I miss them) scoring 50pts a game and I did think it sounded fun!!

Not relevant to Iowas situation, but fun!!

But as it turns out, their offense blows based on the 5 games I listed!! That’s enough incidentally!

Again WTH?!
 
This is & was my hope when BF got hired! My real fear is, and I guess some of these cats don’t get this! But who the hell wants to run O under KF. I promise you his son doesn’t anymore!! Hence said interview. He doesn’t care what he says. He’ll still do his best, he CARES, he just doesn’t care what the media thinks?!

He’ll do the best he can and he’ll go from there.

As I’ve now said 100 years ago, AND 100 plus times! KOK was the perfect OC for KF…. He was an old enough friend. He still was going to fight for what you believe it… And I really thought so Brian would be OK. OK on steroids it just hasn’t worked out that way, 😝!!

Whose fault it is, is honestly irrelevant and likely both, but don’t get confused KF IS deep involved!
Going through life without caring what people say or think about you is liberating. I'm sure BF thinks the reporters are dullards and simps, unworthy of time or attention, and he's largely right.
 
Agree that most of us don't know much about the specifics and details of running an offense at the collegiate level (or any level for that matter). But, like pornography, while hard to define, we know it when we see it, the same holds true for what we've witnessed with Iowa's offense, we may not know the technical reasons for it, but it has not been good for awhile. Yes, there have been bright spots along the way, but it is never consistent, e.g., wallop OSU, scoring 55 points, and the next week against Wisconsin they muster 50 yards of offense. Last year stands on its own. Was it a personnel problem? Definitely. Last year's OL was terrible. But all of that ultimately points back to the coaches to figure it out.

All that, I want Brian to succeed. He seems like a good guy; he's matured over time. He clearly has his roots in Hawkeye football. There is much to like about those intangible elements. But, the offense has not been good. And now, it's become a national narrative. In some respect, that has to impact recruiting talented offensive players. I hope he proves all the naysayers wrong, not for an "I told you so" moment, but because it means that Iowa football has had success and there would be signs that it would be continuing. He has a lot of work to do, and as mentioned before, a lot of pressure on him to succeed this fall. I believe this is his last chance at Iowa.
Very well said.
 
Couple of things here that most on here seem to be forgetting. While Brian seems to be taking the majority of the heat, ( possibly rightfully so) Kirk for the most part seems to be getting a pass. For the most part. He’s the one who gave Brian more responsibility, who probably put him into position he’s not ready for. The stretch play, our claim to fame is just not effective. We’ve currently got 10 o linemen in the pros so we’ve had talent in the trenches. We’ve had solid QBs who have at least had cups of coffee in the league. We’ve had GREAT tight ends, as evidenced by our current crop in the NFL. And of course our defense has been great. I’m sorry but some of this does come down to scheme and inability to continue to move forward. I think Kirk has gotten more stubborn and more conservative as he’s aged. And he’s also gotten absolute power. Yes, the last 2 years have been abysmal offensively. But they weren’t great before. And from the sounds of the press conference we’re just doubling down.
 
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Couple of things here that most on here seem to be forgetting. While Brian seems to be taking the majority of the heat, ( possibly rightfully so) Kirk for the most part seems to be getting a pass. For the most part. He’s the one who gave Brian more responsibility, who probably put him into position he’s not ready for. The stretch play, our claim to fame is just not effective. We’ve currently got 10 o linemen in the pros so we’ve had talent in the trenches. We’ve had solid QBs who have at least had cups of coffee in the league. We’ve had GREAT tight ends, as evidenced by our current crop in the NFL. And of course our defense has been great. I’m sorry but some of this does come down to scheme and inability to continue to move forward. I think Kirk has gotten more stubborn and more conservative as he’s aged. And he’s also gotten absolute power. Yes, the last 2 years have been abysmal offensively. But they weren’t great before. And from the sounds of the press conference we’re just doubling down.
I agree, for what that's worth.
 
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