Close friend pleading with me to not vaccinate our baby
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They engaged in fraud to attempt to disprove any causality/connection.
Thompson is a PhD who works in the National Immunization Program at the CDC where he has been employed for 16 years. His revelations were first made public after he reportedly made wide-ranging claims and confessions in a series of telephone conversations with autism advocate and researcher Brian Hooker of Focus Autism. Hooker, also a PhD, is an assistant professor of biology and the parent of an autistic teenager. Because of the significance of Thompson’s allegations, Hooker began recording some of the conversations without Thompson’s knowledge.
“It’s the lowest point in my career that I went along with that paper,” Thompson tells Hooker in a recording played on the online Autism Media Channel. “I went along with this, we didn’t report significant findings.”
The CDC’s DeStefano acknowledges that he and his study co-authors changed their study analysis plan midstream, which resulted in reducing the statistical vaccine-autism link among black boys. But he says they did so for good scientific reason.
“[Vaccine] exposure around [three years of age] is just not biologically plausible to have a causal association with autism,” DeStefano says. “I mean autism would’ve already started by then…it probably starts in the womb. So I think from a biological argument, it’s implausible this was a causal association.”
Bullshit.
There are clear studies - including European ones - which prove no relationship.
Why are we back to "autism", when:
- The original paper claiming a correlation was disproven to be fraudulent
- Subsequent analyses by several independent groups have found nothing there.
Yes. And this is but one of many examples of the truth about vaccines and autism making itself known. It's like the curtain being pulled on the emperor several times, seeing him spinning his wheels and pushing his buttons, and still thinking he doesn't exist.
What a fool. So if it's not in a publication somewhere, it didn't happen? Life happens outside of published data Joe. Yes fraud can be discovered externally from publications and data.
They're all flawed to the max. We've discussed this so many times. They're fraudulent MMR and Thimerosal studies. None of your retrospective epidemiological studies are vaxxed vs. completely unvaxxed.
The event that MichaelKeller posted about is not insignificant. You saying it is shows just how biased you are. For Joe ANYTHING, even if it's true, gets canned if it's not good for vaccines. That's obviously a dangerous mindset to be in.
The actions they took to conceal the adverse events (esp re: black, male children) are criminal. They all belong in prison for life.
Publications are how we establish science and medical facts.
Not anecdotal stories.
I read the critiques other doctors and scientists post. I've posted so many of them here through the years that left you speechless, REMEMBER JOE? Those studies are nothing but complete fraudulent BS.
You have the top CDC scientist who is a human with a guilty conscience knowing he f'd up people's lives and can't live with himself anymore because he went along with it. Only hardcore vaccine injury deniers could sweep that under the rug and act like it never happened. Very sad.
That seems like a distraction from Hotez being a pussy, and the fact that nobody from your camp seems to want to debate, even when offered enormous sums of money. If they corner the market on truth, then debate it out. Very simple.
Here are a few publications:
Vaccination and autoimmune diseases: is prevention of adverse health effects on the horizon? - PubMed
Autoimmune diseases, including multiple sclerosis and type 1 diabetes mellitus, affect about 5% of the worldwide population. In the last decade, reports have accumulated on various autoimmune disorders, such as idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura, myopericarditis, primary ovarian failure, and...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Vaccination and autoimmune diseases: is prevention of adverse health effects on the horizon? - PubMed
Autoimmune diseases, including multiple sclerosis and type 1 diabetes mellitus, affect about 5% of the worldwide population. In the last decade, reports have accumulated on various autoimmune disorders, such as idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura, myopericarditis, primary ovarian failure, and...On vaccine's adjuvants and autoimmunity: Current evidence and future perspectives - PubMed
Adjuvants are compounds incorporated into vaccines to enhance immunogenicity and the development of these molecules has become an expanding field of research in the last decades. Adding an adjuvant to a vaccine antigen leads to several advantages, including dose sparing and the induction of a...Vaccines, adjuvants and autoimmunity - PubMed
Vaccines and autoimmunity are linked fields. Vaccine efficacy is based on whether host immune response against an antigen can elicit a memory T-cell response over time. Although the described side effects thus far have been mostly transient and acute, vaccines are able to elicit the immune...Predicting post-vaccination autoimmunity: who might be at risk? - PubMed
Vaccinations have been used as an essential tool in the fight against infectious diseases, and succeeded in improving public health. However, adverse effects, including autoimmune conditions may occur following vaccinations (autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants--ASIA syndrome)...Vaccines and Autoimmune Diseases of the Adult - Hedi Orbach - Discovery Medicine
Infectious agents contribute to the environmental factors involved in the development of autoimmune diseases possibly through molecular mimicry mechanisms. Hence, it is feasible that vaccinations may also contribute to the mosaic of autoimmunity. Evidence for the association of vaccinations and .www.discoverymedicine.com
Vaccines and Autoimmune Diseases of the Adult - Hedi Orbach - Discovery Medicine
Infectious agents contribute to the environmental factors involved in the development of autoimmune diseases possibly through molecular mimicry mechanisms. Hence, it is feasible that vaccinations may also contribute to the mosaic of autoimmunity. Evidence for the association of vaccinations and .Synergism in aluminum and mercury neurotoxicity
OA Text is an independent open-access scientific publisher showcases innovative research and ideas aimed at improving health by linking research and practice to the benefit of society.www.oatext.com
Frontiers | Temporal Association of Certain Neuropsychiatric Disorders Following Vaccination of Children and Adolescents: A Pilot Case–Control Study
BackgroundAlthough the association of the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine with autism spectrum disorder has been convincingly disproven, the onset of cer...www.frontiersin.org
This is not a full publication; it is an abstract only (and a "Case Report", NOT AN ACTUAL STUDY).
Ergo, it's worthless to verify any of your claims here.
This was a SURVEY. Not a STUDY. Ergo, it cannot justify your claims here as a Pilot Study.
"We did not set out to test a specific hypothesis about the associationbetween vaccination and health."
Ergo: also worthless to justify your claims here
This study makes zero conclusions; it only asks questions.
Ergo, worthless to support your claims
I've looked at 3 of your links, and I find absolutely nothing of merit in them.
Probably not worth the time to look into any others, because you haven't read any of them, either. All you want to do is make wild claims and push nonsense links purporting to support those claims. They do not.
Yes, it's a pilot study, and a survey, it's has its limitations. That said, here we have a vaccinated vs. completely unvaccinated study unlike the studies you've presented in the past which are of poor design. If anything of significance is found in a study like this, then you follow it up with further studies that address the limitations. The authors feel their findings were significant enough to suggest further studies. It's called a signal, bub. You follow it up.
Did you even read the conclusions? I see conclusions.
When it comes to medical decisions, a good
Rule of Thumb is to get your advice from people who graduated from medical schools and have actual experience in their fields. Everything else is noise.
Rule of Thumb is to get your advice from people who graduated from medical schools and have actual experience in their fields. Everything else is noise.
Nothing based on any "data".
You went 0/3 on a random pick of your "links" from a hack website.
What you did was an "Appeal to Authority" fallacy, and you even failed at that...
