Good job Joe I think you got it. Now that the majority of folks are anti-vax, YOU'RE the one in the minority.
Close friend pleading with me to not vaccinate our baby
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I have seen the studies your buddy posted. They undermine your points here, and state exactly the opposite.
Joes Place: “If you skip any recommended vaccination for any reason except a legit medical one, you are "anti-vax" by definition.”
sciencedirect.com: “Vaccinations against SARS-CoV-2 have consistently been shown to reduce the risk of severe COVID-19 disease. However, uptake of boosters has stalled in the United States at less than 20% of the eligible population.”
Joes Place: “The majority are not (anti-vax).”
Talk about living in denial.
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sciencedirect.com: “Vaccinations against SARS-CoV-2 have consistently been shown to reduce the risk of severe COVID-19 disease. However, uptake of boosters has stalled in the United States at less than 20% of the eligible population.”
Joes Place: “The majority are not (anti-vax).”
Talk about living in denial.
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People are lazy.
During the pandemic, they lined up for their first Covid vaccines.
Patients suffering effects very similar in both post-covid AND post-vaccination timelines.
Funny thing is they failed to mention if the two post-covid subjects were also injected. Because that would be extremely relevant to the study re: all the previous red flags around immune enhancement and mRNA technology.
Frontiers | Post-SARS-CoV-2 infection and post-vaccine-related neurological complications share clinical features and the same positivity to anti-ACE2 antibodies
IntroductionA potential overlap in symptoms between post-acute COVID-19 syndrome and post-COVID-19 vaccination syndrome has been noted. We report a paired de...
www.frontiersin.org
Ergo: If you have a reaction to the vaccine, you'll have a WAY WORSE reaction to the virus.Patients suffering effects very similar in both post-covid AND post-vaccination timelines.
Funny thing is they failed to mention if the two post-covid subjects were also injected. Because that would be extremely relevant to the study re: all the previous red flags around immune enhancement and mRNA technology.
Frontiers | Post-SARS-CoV-2 infection and post-vaccine-related neurological complications share clinical features and the same positivity to anti-ACE2 antibodies
IntroductionA potential overlap in symptoms between post-acute COVID-19 syndrome and post-COVID-19 vaccination syndrome has been noted. We report a paired de...
That's what has been presented to you months and months ago.
Zero? You know better than that Joe. You've been presented many of these multiple times. Some of these studies deal with the list of diseases I outlined. Some do not. If you'll scroll through them, I'm sure you'll find SOME data.
Vaccine Safety Archives
childrenshealthdefense.org
Diseases/Outcomes Archives
childrenshealthdefense.org
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Zero? You know better than that Joe. You've been presented many of these multiple times.
Vaccine Safety Archives
Diseases/Outcomes Archives
Yeah, I'm giving a disinformation site with zero legitimate scientific evidence the attention it deserves, which is none. Anything RFK Jr touches, as it relates to science or (specifically) vaccines is bunk.
You are (re)posting a pseudo-science site run by Kennedy and his buddies.
Nothing on that site has any merit.
Another rando video.
They cannot debate folks like Hotez in the publication arena (where you have to post actual facts and links to your analysis), so they have to resort to misleading videos.
Oh look…the study ‘missed’ some dangerous side effects of a proposed new drug.Zero? You know better than that Joe. You've been presented many of these multiple times. Some of these studies deal with the list of diseases I outlined. Some do not. If you'll scroll through them, I'm sure you'll find SOME data.
Vaccine Safety Archives
Diseases/Outcomes Archives
I’m sure the FDA will take a serious look into that before they rubber stamp its approval.
Subjects in the studies told The Wall Street Journal that their thoughts of suicide worsened during or after testing, but their downward slides weren’t captured in trial data and therefore not reflected in the final results.
So, how are they supposed to magically predict things that do not show up in clinical trials data?
You're not because we know you really believe it. Even though it's still a fact that college grads make way way more money than non college grads. People like you still think they're getting indoctrinated in leftism.
RFK didn't do the studies, boyz. You've seen the studies and Joe you lied about never seeing them. They're legit. They're exactly what I said they were. You lose again. Thanks for playing.
Hotez is the biggest pussy. He knows his dumb ass would be backed into a corner in front of a world-wide audience and of course he and pharma can't afford that so he has to puss out. Any of my boys would gladly debate him and have offered him what, 100K + to do so but he realizes his position is weak and he'd get exposed. Obviously if his position was solid he would debate and at least attempt to put this movement he hates so much to bed.
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Where?
Pick one. Not some rando list that Kennedy's site claims "prove your point".
Choose a "study".
This seems like a distraction from your claim you have "studies" to post.
That seems like a distraction from Hotez being a pussy, and the fact that nobody from your camp seems to want to debate, even when offered enormous sums of money. If they corner the market on truth, then debate it out. Very simple.
Here are a few publications:
Vaccination and autoimmune diseases: is prevention of adverse health effects on the horizon? - PubMed
Autoimmune diseases, including multiple sclerosis and type 1 diabetes mellitus, affect about 5% of the worldwide population. In the last decade, reports have accumulated on various autoimmune disorders, such as idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura, myopericarditis, primary ovarian failure, and...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Vaccination and autoimmune diseases: is prevention of adverse health effects on the horizon? - PubMed
Autoimmune diseases, including multiple sclerosis and type 1 diabetes mellitus, affect about 5% of the worldwide population. In the last decade, reports have accumulated on various autoimmune disorders, such as idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura, myopericarditis, primary ovarian failure, and...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
On vaccine's adjuvants and autoimmunity: Current evidence and future perspectives - PubMed
Adjuvants are compounds incorporated into vaccines to enhance immunogenicity and the development of these molecules has become an expanding field of research in the last decades. Adding an adjuvant to a vaccine antigen leads to several advantages, including dose sparing and the induction of a...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Vaccines, adjuvants and autoimmunity - PubMed
Vaccines and autoimmunity are linked fields. Vaccine efficacy is based on whether host immune response against an antigen can elicit a memory T-cell response over time. Although the described side effects thus far have been mostly transient and acute, vaccines are able to elicit the immune...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Predicting post-vaccination autoimmunity: who might be at risk? - PubMed
Vaccinations have been used as an essential tool in the fight against infectious diseases, and succeeded in improving public health. However, adverse effects, including autoimmune conditions may occur following vaccinations (autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants--ASIA syndrome)...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Vaccines and Autoimmune Diseases of the Adult - Hedi Orbach - Discovery Medicine
Infectious agents contribute to the environmental factors involved in the development of autoimmune diseases possibly through molecular mimicry mechanisms. Hence, it is feasible that vaccinations may also contribute to the mosaic of autoimmunity. Evidence for the association of vaccinations and .
Vaccines and Autoimmune Diseases of the Adult - Hedi Orbach - Discovery Medicine
Infectious agents contribute to the environmental factors involved in the development of autoimmune diseases possibly through molecular mimicry mechanisms. Hence, it is feasible that vaccinations may also contribute to the mosaic of autoimmunity. Evidence for the association of vaccinations and .
Synergism in aluminum and mercury neurotoxicity
OA Text is an independent open-access scientific publisher showcases innovative research and ideas aimed at improving health by linking research and practice to the benefit of society.
Frontiers | Temporal Association of Certain Neuropsychiatric Disorders Following Vaccination of Children and Adolescents: A Pilot Case–Control Study
BackgroundAlthough the association of the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine with autism spectrum disorder has been convincingly disproven, the onset of cer...
www.frontiersin.org
That seems like a distraction from Hotez being a pussy, and the fact that nobody from your camp seems to want to debate, even when offered enormous sums of money. If they corner the market on truth, then debate it out. Very simple.
Here are a few publications:
Vaccination and autoimmune diseases: is prevention of adverse health effects on the horizon? - PubMed
Autoimmune diseases, including multiple sclerosis and type 1 diabetes mellitus, affect about 5% of the worldwide population. In the last decade, reports have accumulated on various autoimmune disorders, such as idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura, myopericarditis, primary ovarian failure, and...Vaccination and autoimmune diseases: is prevention of adverse health effects on the horizon? - PubMed
Autoimmune diseases, including multiple sclerosis and type 1 diabetes mellitus, affect about 5% of the worldwide population. In the last decade, reports have accumulated on various autoimmune disorders, such as idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura, myopericarditis, primary ovarian failure, and...On vaccine's adjuvants and autoimmunity: Current evidence and future perspectives - PubMed
Adjuvants are compounds incorporated into vaccines to enhance immunogenicity and the development of these molecules has become an expanding field of research in the last decades. Adding an adjuvant to a vaccine antigen leads to several advantages, including dose sparing and the induction of a...Vaccines, adjuvants and autoimmunity - PubMed
Vaccines and autoimmunity are linked fields. Vaccine efficacy is based on whether host immune response against an antigen can elicit a memory T-cell response over time. Although the described side effects thus far have been mostly transient and acute, vaccines are able to elicit the immune...Predicting post-vaccination autoimmunity: who might be at risk? - PubMed
Vaccinations have been used as an essential tool in the fight against infectious diseases, and succeeded in improving public health. However, adverse effects, including autoimmune conditions may occur following vaccinations (autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants--ASIA syndrome)...Vaccines and Autoimmune Diseases of the Adult - Hedi Orbach - Discovery Medicine
Infectious agents contribute to the environmental factors involved in the development of autoimmune diseases possibly through molecular mimicry mechanisms. Hence, it is feasible that vaccinations may also contribute to the mosaic of autoimmunity. Evidence for the association of vaccinations and .www.discoverymedicine.com
Vaccines and Autoimmune Diseases of the Adult - Hedi Orbach - Discovery Medicine
Infectious agents contribute to the environmental factors involved in the development of autoimmune diseases possibly through molecular mimicry mechanisms. Hence, it is feasible that vaccinations may also contribute to the mosaic of autoimmunity. Evidence for the association of vaccinations and .Synergism in aluminum and mercury neurotoxicity
OA Text is an independent open-access scientific publisher showcases innovative research and ideas aimed at improving health by linking research and practice to the benefit of society.www.oatext.com
Frontiers | Temporal Association of Certain Neuropsychiatric Disorders Following Vaccination of Children and Adolescents: A Pilot Case–Control Study
BackgroundAlthough the association of the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine with autism spectrum disorder has been convincingly disproven, the onset of cer...
Pick 1 or 2 you "like" that you think prove your point, and let's discuss.
Not going thru a grocery list of nonsense from Anti-vax websites that post garbage.
Those are "anecdotes", not "studies".
And, regarding the "autism" claims, I've posted for you at least 6 times now that childhood infections are directly related to ASD, not vaccines.
Joe, you said ZERO data. Now you're getting data (as you did before), and you're still not happy.
It's the vaccines, bub.
And by the way, I thought you couldn't prove it's NOT the vaccines. Why do we keep going back and forth on this?
I stand by that.
Pick 2 you like and we'll see what the "data" actually tell us.
Or I'll pick them.
You CAN prove there is no correlation. Which has been done.
There HAS been a CLEAR correlation between early childhood infections and ASD.
Which I've posted for you multiple times.
I presented some peer reviewed publications for you, a list that is by no means exhaustive. There are some publications that I know once existed and google seems to have buried them, conveniently. Feel free to offer your opinions on 2 or all of them.
