Close friend pleading with me to not vaccinate our baby
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Death rates declined, in part due to better hygiene and medical treatments.
Death rates were mostly ELIMINATED after the vaccines.
No they don't. The clot shot has negative efficacy even.
Because vaccine injuries are a fact, and no manufacturer was going to make them at the piddly margins they got for them w/o a program in place to provide for those rare incidents.
Except it has a couple orders of magnitude more regulation around the products it produces.
Which Ford does not have to comply with, either in 1970 or 2025
You should be much more concerned about environmental chemicals than vaccines, if this is your concern.
Yet, Trump and his buddies will gut the EPA in regulating those chemicals (like the SC did with overturning Chevron)
He also has never linked them to being the cause.
That's all in your addled brain
Yep
And in Iowa, those infections are now accelerating due to lack of vaccinations.
There's a new thread about it for you at the top of Page 1 today
Did Zahondry attribute it to vaccines anywhere? I think that 5% number is high. However we have been giving childhood vaccines for decades 50-60 70+ years. We didn’t start seeing the increase until 20 years ago- correct. The biggest thing we are seeing is more drug babies, babies that didn’t receive proper nutrition in the womb ect. There are multiple factors for developmental issues or diseases.
Edit: CDC has the rate at 2.8% still too high. Autism diagnosis started increasing when they changed the guidelines and made more awareness about it 30 years ago. Again where is your facts - this is all assumptions and trying to make correlations.
For further facts, babies born that have been subjected to alcohol, cigarettes and other drugs has increased to 1 in 12 kids. All those risks increase autism - a baby subjected to cocaine has a 12% chance of autism.
Go check the chart in that article. The number of babies addicted to drugs when born tripled from early 2000s to mid 2010’s and even more since. That is the most probable reason for your autism increase, but I’m sure you already knew that.
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American males with autism now at 1:12 per your link above? What in the actual F are we doing?
There’s no level of Hell too deep for these Pharma grifters to burn in. 😡
He works for the CDC, he'd probably lose his job so his hands are obviously tied.
When the schedule ramped up.
Tell that to Walter, he says no. Other experts have said that the rate increase can't be attributed solely to that. Also, use your common sense. That's half the problem these days.
Come on man. If that were the case it would be common knowledge and it would be a major societal production. Everyone would be all over that connection like flies on shit. It's not the case, so it's extremely rare to have someone mention it. That's about as bad as having Joe blame it on childhood illnesses. Nice try though.
In addition, go ask Google: "does substance abuse cause autism?" I got: "No, there is no scientific evidence that drugs directly cause autism".
Sigh. Next.
Yeah you're right. This is much, much more of an issue than it's being given. Vaccine worshipers look to blame it on ANYTHING but vaccines. Even though the available science does NOT say that vaccines don't cause autism.
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You mean it was set up to screw over families in lieu of pharma profits.
If you put the liability back on the manufacturers you'd have a safer product and I wouldn't have to waste my time with you.
Oh, just stop. Joe’s already told you what causes autism… childhoodinfectionsmicroplasticsbetterdiagnosticsBPAs.
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Why would someone "lose his job" when the biggest anti-vaxxer voice ever is taking over?
He’s literally [ ri-tahr-did ]
Wonder if the FDA gives him holiday pay for ‘working’ today?
It's a kangaroo court put in place to screw over families, from what I've been told you also have gag orders applied to families who are awarded, just enough to keep the torches and pitchforks at bay. It's all BS.
Just like vaccines, you do not appear to understand how that works, either.
You don't understand herd immunity. You claim vaccines cause childhood developmental issues, where there is literally no science supporting it. There are several studies showing there is correlation between drugs increasing statistics on autism, specifically cocaine, increasing autism rates to 12%. Yet they still want to hold back saying environmental factors play a roll. I think its copping out personally.
We were talking about the vaccine court.
And yes I understand herd immunity and the absurdity of thinking we're at the numbers they say we are with the way vaccines wear off and the fact that the adult population is largely unvaccinated according to the CDC adult schedule.
I also understand your herd mentality.
I see where drugs could have it's hand in it to a small extent, exacerbating the situation but yeah it's not substance abuse. I would abandon that idea if I were you.
These courts and the people running them are pure evil.
Only 35% say they are opposed. 14% undecided.
The 35% must either hate government transparency and checks and balances, or have their head so far up msm's butt they can't see straight.
Regardless, HBOT posters don't seem to represent the true distribution of people who do vs. don't want to see this go through.
The 35% must either hate government transparency and checks and balances, or have their head so far up msm's butt they can't see straight.
Regardless, HBOT posters don't seem to represent the true distribution of people who do vs. don't want to see this go through.
No I see no effect of vaccines causing autism. Much more effect in the womb, than outside the womb, going through the vaginal canal subjects them to many more pathogens than vaccines.
That doesn't match what parents are saying about their kids at all. One day everything great, hitting all milestones then after the shots, completely different. Countless reports. You gotta listen to the parents man, they know their kids the best.
Parents like yourself who have minimal medical knowledge. Basing it off their “feelings”. I could almost say you are going woke. Based on what they heard from their neighborhood know it all like you. Don’t be woke LOL.
You have no freaking clue what his medical knowledge is.
A child ‘shutting down’ mere hours after an injection should be enough to warrant a recall. The odds of it happening to 3 siblings and NOT directly caused by vaccines are infinitesimal.
You’re defending a criminal enterprise.
Regression Into Autism
We had beautiful, healthy triplets in 2006: two boys and a girl. We had an agreed upon plan of spacing out vaccinations with our doctor. On June 25, 2007, we went to a scheduled well baby visit with our healthy, completely neuro-typical nine-month-old triplets. On this visit the planned...
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That’s the same article posted earlier, where they were all 3 contraindicated because they had an anomaly with their DNA. But go on and be an idiot. They are the ones who need everyone who is healthy to get the vaccines.You have no freaking clue what his medical knowledge is.
A child ‘shutting down’ mere hours after an injection should be enough to warrant a recall. The odds of it happening to 3 siblings and NOT directly caused by vaccines are infinitesimal.
You’re defending a criminal enterprise.
Regression Into Autism
We had beautiful, healthy triplets in 2006: two boys and a girl. We had an agreed upon plan of spacing out vaccinations with our doctor. On June 25, 2007, we went to a scheduled well baby visit with our healthy, completely neuro-typical nine-month-old triplets. On this visit the planned...
I have a good friend whose son has angelmans syndrome. Now he wasn’t diagnosed until a year or 18 months later. So did he always have the syndrome or only once diagnosed? That’s effectively what we are talking about here.
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‘DNA anomaly’. Lmfao. Big Pharma tries to blame all vaccine injuries/deaths on genetics but in this case genetics absolutely disproves their bullshit.
Their three children acquired autism from a contaminated lot of vaccines; the same lot (they later found out) that killed a two yr old girl.
I thought you were done posting in these vaccine threads, anyway. It’s not too late to stick to your word and stop embarrassing yourself.
Everything I’ve seen on the case is it was genetic. If it supposedly killed an infant, still waiting for those facts, there must have been more autistic kids out of the batch right. . . Right, you mean to tell me no other child got autism out of that batch. Then why would 3 have something no other child in the batch got, except that they had a genetic disorder. I see too Much silly stuff to ignore you 2 dunces.
Vaccination as a cause of autism—myths and controversies - PMC
Despite significant progress in the study of the epidemiology and genetics of autism, the etiology and patho-physiology of this condition is far from being elucidated and no curative treatment currently exists. Although solid scientific research ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
You are effectively the doctors of 1950’s tryin to blame refrigerator moms for autism. Pretty silly huh. Your facts is 2 stories, 1 dad claiming court caused child to have autism and this triplet case. Your hypothesis should be easily replicated, but it’s not. There are also major factual concerns with both reported stories.
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No offense, but your writing and critical thinking skills are both sophomoric, and the articles you link are mostly op-ed quality.Everything I’ve seen on the case is it was genetic. If it supposedly killed an infant, still waiting for those facts, there must have been more autistic kids out of the batch right. . . Right, you mean to tell me no other child got autism out of that batch. Then why would 3 have something no other child in the batch got, except that they had a genetic disorder. I see too Much silly stuff to ignore you 2 dunces.
Vaccination as a cause of autism—myths and controversies - PMC
Despite significant progress in the study of the epidemiology and genetics of autism, the etiology and patho-physiology of this condition is far from being elucidated and no curative treatment currently exists. Although solid scientific research ...
You are effectively the doctors of 1950’s tryin to blame refrigerator moms for autism. Pretty silly huh. Your facts is 2 stories, 1 dad claiming court caused child to have autism and this triplet case. Your hypothesis should be easily replicated, but it’s not. There are also major factual concerns with both reported stories.
Maybe just stick to giving Joes Place a thumbs up once in awhile and call it good?
Dr. Kathryn Edwards, MD, a proud graduate of the University of Iowa and one of the leading vaccine developer/experts in the country, repeatedly admitting there are NO studies showing vaccines don’t cause autism.
If you can’t trust the experts who CAN ya trust?
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