Coronavirus

[anon_i8nzeu2gbf0ba]

Personally think it is just the media trying to blow it out of proportion and click bait articles for their websites.

Yah. That's it. Nothing to see here. Pay no attention to those lying media types . . . And those dead bodies accumulating around the world? Those are just Hollywood props. Everyone at the Centers for Disease Control are in on this whole charade too, not to mention millions of other doctors and nurses around the world. This virus thing is one of the biggest hoaxes since "the moon landing."

I know this because the man in that big White House in Washington told me, and he said himself he's "a stable genius." So end of story.

OTH, MLB and the NBA are developing plans that would have games played without fans. The Cubs-Cardinals trip to London in June is still on but may be cancelled. And the Olympics scheduled for Tokyo this summer may be cancelled. But then the people who run those organizations aren't known for being stable geniuses. They're easily duped, so don't worry about it. It's all good.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

Yah. That's it. Nothing to see here. Pay no attention to those lying media types . . . And those dead bodies accumulating around the world? Those are just Hollywood props. Everyone at the Centers for Disease Control are in on this whole charade too, not to mention millions of other doctors and nurses around the world. This virus thing is one of the biggest hoaxes since "the moon landing."

I know this because the man in that big White House in Washington told me, and he said himself he's "a stable genius." So end of story.

OTH, MLB and the NBA are developing plans that would have games played without fans. The Cubs-Cardinals trip to London in June is still on but may be cancelled. And the Olympics scheduled for Tokyo this summer may be cancelled. But then the people who run those organizations aren't known for being stable geniuses. They're easily duped, so don't worry about it. It's all good.

I was referring to the NCAA tourney games not allowing fans to be cancelled as clickbait. As I said if it is such a big deal why has not one word been said about conference tournaments where more teams play at one location over a longer period. Hence you throw in the words Coronavirus to any subject matter to get clicks on websites. But of course you take it to a whole other level with your response....

Why don't you and your lame signature that speaks volumes about yourself take your politics and head over to the cesspool of HROT.

 

[Joes Place]

Less than two weeks away from the start of the NCAA Division I men’s and women’s basketball tournaments, the association is considering how to proceed safely amid an outbreak of coronavirus COVID-19.


The NCAA’s COVID-19 advisory panel said Friday it is “not recommending cancellation or public spacing of athletic and related events scheduled to occur in public spaces across the United States.” But contingency plans are being discussed that include playing games with only essential personnel present.


The AP on Friday interviewed NCAA chief medical officer Dr. Brian Hainline and advisory board member Dr. Carlos del Rio, chairman of the Hubert Department of Global Health at Emory University’s Rollins School of Public Health. This is an edited version of the highlights of that interview.

Hainline: We have we’re making plans to proceed with our championships, which are numerous in the spring. And at the same time, we have developed all the contingency plans and they’re all based on what is in the best interests of public health. So that’s our first statement that we’re going to do what’s in the best interest of public health. And for the health and safety of our student athletes. And so the way we have done that, then, besides simply working with the CDC, we have a panel of experts. And it really is looking at it as individuals across the country who are really well-respected as the experts in public health, population health, infectious disease and security at-large events. We meet with them regularly. They are guiding us along with the public-health guidance. And then we’re also being guided by what the local and state health officials are telling us. And so although one can say the NCAA makes the decision, the NCAA’s decisions in this are unequivocally guided by what the health officials are telling us and what our advisory panel is telling us. But we have all the contingency plans worked out.

AP: Could you elaborate on the contingency plans?

Hainline: There are contingency scenarios whereby we’re told by public health officials or the advisory panel tells us, look, it’s not reasonable to hold this event in a large public forum and or in a public forum. And it has to be with people that we know are not contagious. So, you know, that probably is the the ultimate scenario that we’re ready for.



https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/college/ap-qa-with-ncaa-chief-medical-officer-on-covid-19/

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

Very distinct possibility games will be in empty arenas.

 

[HawkRugged17]

 

[cecilB]

Personally think it is just the media trying to blow it out of proportion and click bait articles for their websites. Honestly doubt there is much conversation of it even happening because of the $ that would be lost.

Yet what I find funny is they talk about NCAA tourney but no one cares about conference tourney sites where more teams will be playing at a single venue over more days than the tourney sites and all of this less than a week prior to the start of March Madness. But have seen or read nothing for doing this next week in all the places next week hosting conference tourneys including some major ones like in KC, Indianapolis, Vegas, NYC, etc. Even for other things like the Big 10 Wrestling in NJ this weekend.

I'll be sure to share this with our epidemiologist and infectious disease physicians on our medical staff since they've been singing a diff

You do realize that in 2019 16000 people died from just the regular flu?? This is getting hyped by democrats and media to try to hurt trump. They are evil people

I'll be sure to share this with our epidemiologist and infectious disease physicians on our medical staff since they've been singing a different tune than your conspiracy claim...oh, did I share that our epidemiologist and lead ID doc are Republicans.

 

[Mohawkeye]

You do realize that in 2019 16000 people died from just the regular flu?? This is getting hyped by democrats and media to try to hurt trump. They are evil people

You realize that there is a vaccine (edit=not “cure”) for the flu and not the coronavirus? And that the morality rate is above 2% for coronavirus? That’s over 6 million that will die in the USA alone. Don’t be dense.

 

[EagleHawk]

You realize that there is a cure for the flu and not the coronavirus? And that the morality rate is above 2% for coronavirus? That’s over 6 million that will die in the USA alone. Don’t be dense.

So 27.8M Chinese are going to die? Wow.

I think mortality rate is supposed to be of those infected, not the general population.

 

[unoHawkeye]

You realize that there is a cure for the flu and not the coronavirus? And that the morality rate is above 2% for coronavirus? That’s over 6 million that will die in the USA alone. Don’t be dense.

There is a vaccine for the flu, but not a cure. Influenza is a viral disease

 

[Mohawkeye]

There is a vaccine for the flu, but not a cure. Influenza is a viral disease

Thank you for the correction. I’ll edit.

 

[Mohawkeye]

So 27.8M Chinese are going to die? Wow.

I think mortality rate is supposed to be of those infected, not the general population.

Correct.

 

[silasstarr]

Depends on the degree of spread over the next two weeks. It might be necessary in certain locations.

It’s spreading. The problem is they aren’t testing broadly. The US has conducted around 2000 tests and test only those that either traveled to China, Italy or S Korea or have been in close proximity to someone who has comfirmed positive with the virus. In comparison, S Korea can and has tested up to 10k/day. This is a total fail by our federal government.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

It’s spreading. The problem is they aren’t testing broadly. The US has conducted around 2000 tests and test only those that either traveled to China, Italy or S Korea or have been in close proximity to someone who has confirmed positive with the virus. In comparison, S Korea can and has tested up to 10k/day. This is a total fail by the federal government.

Good advice is to listen to medical experts, not the president.

 

[Kabby]

Read an article somewhere, (if I get time I’ll try and post) basically said insurance would cover most money loss if they play in front of empty stands.

you really think that? I would say they have an out

 

[kceasthawk]

So 27.8M Chinese are going to die? Wow.

I think mortality rate is supposed to be of those infected, not the general population.

Thank you. The stuff people post is amazing......

 

[runxctrk]

you really think that? I would say they have an out

It would interesting to know what their insurance would cover. I’m guess ticket sales and nothing else. Just found this article so it’s all water under the bridge. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wh...irus-concerns/CSlWwtvIh4daNXYmpEWJbK/amp.html

 

[shank hawk]

On Sunday the NCAA will announce that all players from the 68 eligible teams will be tested for the virus.

On Tuesday they will announce that over 90% of the players on 66 teams tested positive and therefore their teams shall forfeit due to concerns over the general welfare of the nation.

Duke will play Kansas for the title the following Monday because they all tested negative.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I would rather get coronavirus than miss the ncaa tourney

 

[Peckerboy]

So 27.8M Chinese are going to die? Wow.

I think mortality rate is supposed to be of those infected, not the general population.

Stupid people ...thanks for setting these idiots straight.

Of course for those infected by the virus the mortality rate is 3.4% but most of those 95% or more have immune systems or respiratory systems that have been compromised . Many of these people were older individuals 65+. And while we are looking at facts here... a great % of these fatality’s were attributed to the lack of access to proper healthcare.

The actual numbers of those infected by virus are no more higher than those that are affected by the common flu.

This is an epidemic for sure but spreading false information and fear make it a pandemic so make sure you have all your facts straight before you post

 

[blhawk]

You do realize that in 2019 16000 people died from just the regular flu?? This is getting hyped by democrats and media to try to hurt trump. They are evil people

You really have to give it to the libtards for their international coordination of this hoax against Trump. Getting all these foreign govts on board must have been a lot of work but by golly these evil scum are pulling it off.

God you are a dumb

 

[Mohawkeye]

Stupid people ...thanks for setting these idiots straight.

Of course for those infected by the virus the mortality rate is 3.4% but most of those 95% or more have immune systems or respiratory systems that have been compromised . Many of these people were older individuals 65+. And while we are looking at facts here... a great % of these fatality’s were attributed to the lack of access to proper healthcare.

The actual numbers of those infected by virus are no more higher than those that are affected by the common flu.

This is an epidemic for sure but spreading false information and fear make it a pandemic so make sure you have all your facts straight before you post

What “false information” are you referring to?

 

[Joes Place]

The actual numbers of those infected by virus are no more higher than those that are affected by the common flu.

This is 100% incorrect. And it's why you're seeing widespread quarantines and stock market dumps. If this were just another "flu", your markets wouldn't give a shit.

 

[Peckerboy]

This is 100% incorrect. And it's why you're seeing widespread quarantines and stock market dumps. If this were just another "flu", your markets wouldn't give a shit.

Overreaction is why we are seeing both of the issues you mention. The markets are reacting to the overreaction created by the media and false information about the virus and that is to be expected . Quarantines are the exact same response to an over response from health providers

 

[L. Wade Childress]

This is 100% incorrect. And it's why you're seeing widespread quarantines and stock market dumps. If this were just another "flu", your markets wouldn't give a shit.

LOL!

 

[Chishawk1425]

You do realize that in 2019 16000 people died from just the regular flu?? This is getting hyped by democrats and media to try to hurt trump. They are evil people

Seek help. MAGAts dumbest people on Earth.

 

[Joes Place]

Overreaction is why we are seeing both of the issues you mention. The markets are reacting to the overreaction created by the media

No. The markets are reacting to the data....AND the pathetic US response to the data.

 

[EagleHawk]

What “false information” are you referring to?

Pretty sure your claim that 2% of the world's population is going to die from this, and not 2% of those that actually contract the disease.

 

[dekhawk]

Why don’t they just open the arenas to people 40 and under. Card them at the door.

Because those people will share the virus with others when they leave if contagious. Say goodbye to their mom and dad and or grandparents perhaps.

 

[Mohawkeye]

Pretty sure your claim that 2% of the world's population is going to die from this, and not 2% of those that actually contract the disease.

fair enough, that certainly was not my intent.The original poster compared the deaths we suffer from the flu to those we’ve already suffered from coronavirus, which is crazy. Obviously, not everyone will contract the disease. It depends on how good the governmental response is. South Korea has been excellent with over 100,000 people tested and vigorous quarantines. In the States, not so much. The 2% mortality rate I quoted is actually very conservative, older countries such as Italy are experiencing a 5% mortality rate. Conservative estimates are that at least 40% of the population will be infected, although the potential for higher numbers is high where testing and proactive measures aren’t taken. Applying a 2-5% mortality rate to 40% of our US population results in 2.4 to 5.1 million people. To compare this to the flu is asinine and irresponsible.

 

[ichawk24]

CFR is probably going to harden in the 0.5% range. But a much higher contagion rate.

 

[UncannyNanny]

This is 100% incorrect. And it's why you're seeing widespread quarantines and stock market dumps. If this were just another "flu", your markets wouldn't give a shit.

No. The markets are reacting to the data....AND the pathetic US response to the data.

The stock markets reacts to blatant rumors. Its entire sentiment is speculation, caution, and overreaction.

 

[SotaHawk87]

I think we get an announcement in the next 48 hours that the first weekend will be played without spectators. Absolute horse shit! If you don’t want to risk it, don’t go.

 

[nck24]

Unless you're over 70 or have significant comorbidities, you're likely ok.

So you are saying that the front row seats in CHA might be available for a student section next year?

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

Its the flu, just a new strain. The media is out of control in the panic being created and promoted.

People are dying of a new kind of flu. If you're old and already sick, or have immuno deficiency problems (and I'm both) it might finish you off-or a bad case of a known flu virus might kill you. Or a taxi might jump a curb and run you over.

If you fear crowds don't attend events. If you aren't worried feel free to go. Was SARs as bad as predicted? Ebola? Bird flu? Swine flu?

 

[SotaHawk87]

MAC and Big West just went to no spectators.

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

MAC and Big West just went to no spectators.

The panic has gotten epic.

At this point this virus is going to have to run its course. Just delaying it by the masses avoiding gathering and quarantining people for weeks on end. People are acting like it's Ebola being transmitted.

 

[SotaHawk87]

The panic has gotten epic.

At this point this virus is going to have to run its course. Just delaying it by the masses avoiding gathering and quarantining people for weeks on end. People are acting like it's Ebola being transmitted.

It’s insanity

 

[sm_hawkeye]

Its the flu, just a new strain. The media is out of control in the panic being created and promoted.

People are dying of a new kind of flu. If you're old and already sick, or have immuno deficiency problems (and I'm both) it might finish you off-or a bad case of a known flu virus might kill you. Or a taxi might jump a curb and run you over.

If you fear crowds don't attend events. If you aren't worried feel free to go. Was SARs as bad as predicted? Ebola? Bird flu? Swine flu?

Have you actually looked at the death totals of those? Bird flu was 600,000. None of them were nothing to sneeze at. Italy hospitals are a mess right now, where people can't be treated for strokes because there is no hospital beds.

It's hard to compare because it appears to spread faster than any of these previous "epidemics" while yet not being as lethal. But the strain itll cause on hospitals could cause a lot of indirect deaths.

I think playing in empty arenas probably makes the most sense.

 

[StormHawk42]

I consider myself pretty educated but one thing I can’t understand is that clearly everyone in the civilized world knows about this virus and its potential consequences. Why can’t these events put huge disclaimers and signs outside the arena detailing the risk or hell, make everyone sign a waiver of liability prior to entering the facility?

If you go to a large gathering, you know the risks at this point. Some of us are ok with that. If they’re not, they don’t have to go.

Of course, no one wants to be the first one who gets sued by a PI lawyer (and I’m a lawyer so I’m not blaming them). That’s what’s driving this. Everyone wants to get on the bandwagon.

 

[JRingo]

Run for your lives! If you see a basketball game, flee, flee!! You're doomed!
Or... stay home if you are afraid. Don't visit old people if you think you'll infect them. And keep living with that fantasy that washing your hands and hoarding toilet paper will save your life.