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Why even watch if they don’t allow fans it weakens the game.
 
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I cannot imagine being back on that campus right now.. a month of not having to go to class?! I get students will still have the same responsibilities, but that's a huge difference.. walking your ass to class in the bitter cold just to rake in those attendance points & ensure you don't miss out on any easy grades was the reason I graduated.. I'd be at Joe's and Dublin everyday / night if I was still a student. Phew!
 
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Cripes. Sure looks like I won't be attend the NCAA wrestling championships at this rate.

I just hope they don't cancel the whole thing, with Iowa having a great chance to win it all this year!
 
I'll repeat the one thing that should be clear. Listen to the medical experts, NOT politicians or those who are so emotionally invested in either hating the president OR supporting him no matter what he says or does.

Those saying that we understand this virus are wrong. Death rates or even certainty on the limits of how it can spread are uncertain. Also, although you might be young, healthy, and probably at a low risk for serious symptoms, you put others at risk by not following the instructions of the medical experts. You might not die or even get sick, but you might carry the virus to others (including loved ones) who are more at risk.

So, stop with the political bullshit on both sides, and follow the directions of the experts. Disclaimer, I am trying very hard to keep this balanced, although I think the leadership in this country dropped the ball for a month or two, when we could have been preparing.
 
Just saw on CNN that this virus is said to be 10 times more lethal then the flu? This came via Trumps Coronavirus team doctors.
You forgot the part about mortality dropping to 1 from the previous 3-6 range. Will continue to drop as more cases areidentified. Filter out the 75+ and you got nothing more to worry about than any other year. Other than watching cnn.
 
I'll repeat the one thing that should be clear. Listen to the medical experts, NOT politicians or those who are so emotionally invested in either hating the president OR supporting him no matter what he says or does.

Those saying that we understand this virus are wrong. Death rates or even certainty on the limits of how it can spread are uncertain. Also, although you might be young, healthy, and probably at a low risk for serious symptoms, you put others at risk by not following the instructions of the medical experts. You might not die or even get sick, but you might carry the virus to others (including loved ones) who are more at risk.

So, stop with the political bullshit on both sides, and follow the directions of the experts. Disclaimer, I am trying very hard to keep this balanced, although I think the leadership in this country dropped the ball for a month or two, when we could have been preparing.

Thank you.
 
An NCAA official that wants to remain unanimous has said there's a slight chance that the NCAA tournament could be canceled entirely....that would suck....:eek:
 
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I don't think you understand the difference between risk and probability. Carry on.

You crack me up. You threw crap at the wall and I responded, you then tried to deflect, called on it again you doubled down on it. Whether I understand the difference between risk and probability(I do) is immaterial to our exchange.

“That’s over 6 million that will die in the USA alone. Don’t be dense”
Was your post, I said I would take the under. Nothing more, nothing less. Your attempt to back pedal is admirable, your attempt to introduce other factors is laudable as well. You even threw in a "Don't be dense" to emphasize your point. I will still take the under.
 
You forgot the part about mortality dropping to 1 from the previous 3-6 range. Will continue to drop as more cases areidentified. Filter out the 75+ and you got nothing more to worry about than any other year. Other than watching cnn.
Sounds like you are in the know from your sources. I won’t worry about it if Fox News said it just all a farce.
 
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Here's what bothers me:

If you're going to shut down the tournament, and not allow fans to participate.. you better shut down EVERYTHING else. Public transportation, schools, storefronts, literally anything with a constant hub of traffic.
...grocery stores...
 
And here we are, 3 days later:
US 1039 cases



During a one year period in 2009-10, 12,700 died of the swine flu, another pandemic that swept the globe. This was during the Obama administration. I don’t recall outrage from republicans over the administrations response. Rather, a more unified effort at control. In times of crisis, shouldn’t we be working together? What the Democrats are doing, along with the media that they control, is despicable. They place party above country, no surprise when you have a Marxist in contention for their party’s presidential nomination.
 
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During a one year period in 2009-10, 12,700 died of the swine flu, another pandemic that swept the globe. This was during the Obama administration. I don’t recall outrage from republicans over the administrations response. Rather, a more unified effort at control. In times of crisis, shouldn’t we be working together? What the Democrats are doing, along with the media that they control, is despicable. They place party above country, no surprise when you have a Marxist in contention for their party’s presidential nomination.

Again, this is ridiculous. Place party above country? "Your party" does the exact same thing all the time. All Trump ever does is place himself and his selfish wants/needs/desires above everything else. What is despicable is you acting like you and your party is any different then the party you hate and blame for everything. You are the same. Accept it and stop acting like a child.
 
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Here's what bothers me:

If you're going to shut down the tournament, and not allow fans to participate.. you better shut down EVERYTHING else. Public transportation, schools, storefronts, literally anything with a constant hub of traffic.
While I agree to a point, lets be honest here. As much as we all love the games, there non essential entertainment. Yes I realize that many folks will lose a lot of money without the crowds. Their suggesting people just work from home. Like me, millions of people work in on site retail jobs. There's no sitting at home, and working on your computer. Much bigger deal then no fans at the tourney for a lot more people.
 
except health experts say it Wii be a minimum 1 year to 18 months before a vaccine is available and who gets it. This is not flu, it's a new pathogen. We know how to treat flu, make vaccines for flu, we know flu, our hospitals and staff know flu and are well trained for it. It may turn out similar, but those calling it a cold and no big deal have no idea
Exactly! This virus is a classic case of "we don't know what we don't know." No one regardless of age etc.should take it lightly.
 
Again, this is ridiculous. Place party above country? "Your party" does the exact same thing all the time. All Trump ever does is place himself and his selfish wants/needs/desires above everything else. What is despicable is you acting like you and your party is any different then the party you hate and blame for everything. You are the same. Accept it and stop acting like a child.
Perhaps you can detail Trumps selfish wants, desires, blah,blah. He was lauded by the CDC chairman for the travel ban from China and the dem’s called him racist. They play the same card over and over. Just like you. What I said was we should be unified on this and the democrats are incapable of that. Pretty clear.
 
During a one year period in 2009-10, 12,700 died of the swine flu, another pandemic that swept the globe. This was during the Obama administration. I don’t recall outrage from republicans over the administrations response. Rather, a more unified effort at control.

I'm sure Trump is glad that you're as dumb as you are, like his millions of other useful idiots. Your man-crush was recklessly critical of Obama during the H1N1 crisis, as well as Ebola. Both of those situations were handled exponentially better than how coronavirus has been, which is why there was less political fallout overall.

Unified? Sounds like you just think everyone should agree with Trump's cavalier attitude toward this crisis, where he has been wrong at every turn yet blames everyone else and pats himself on the back, declaring himself a natural epidemiologist.

Political scientists have ranked Trump's presidency easily in the bottom 5 in history, and that was BEFORE this coronavirus and economy mess. He will go down as the worst president to ever serve. I am just so glad that it will be over in 8 months and I can live my life knowing that I never supported him in any way, shape or form.
 
I kick myself for having given likes to some of you left wing commy puke libtards.
 
I'm sure Trump is glad that you're as dumb as you are, like his millions of other useful idiots. Your man-crush was recklessly critical of Obama during the H1N1 crisis, as well as Ebola. Both of those situations were handled exponentially better than how coronavirus has been, which is why there was less political fallout overall.

Unified? Sounds like you just think everyone should agree with Trump's cavalier attitude toward this crisis, where he has been wrong at every turn yet blames everyone else and pats himself on the back, declaring himself a natural epidemiologist.

Political scientists have ranked Trump's presidency easily in the bottom 5 in history, and that was BEFORE this coronavirus and economy mess. He will go down as the worst president to ever serve. I am just so glad that it will be over in 8 months and I can live my life knowing that I never supported him in any way, shape or form.

Who do you sound like? Many of us can easily tell. Oh so predictable and tiring. Hey everybody it’s Trump’s fault.
 
Just saw on CNN that this virus is said to be 10 times more lethal then the flu? This came via Trumps Coronavirus team doctors.

10x on the bottom end.

If your health systems get overwhelmed, it's more like 40x to 50x more lethal.

And, again, that's mostly for the 20% who are old or have a co-morbidity. That means for the 80%, it's no different than the flu. For that 20%, then, it has 5% to 25% mortality. Literally.

If 0% of the 80% die, then for an overall 5% mortality (what Italy is seeing) then one-fourth of that 20% will die, or 25%. In case that math still escapes you, 1 in 4 people who are either old, are asthmatics, smoke, have some other immune limitation like a transplant patient or other cardiovascular disease WILL die. 1-in-4.
 
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You forgot the part about mortality dropping to 1 from the previous 3-6 range. Will continue to drop as more cases areidentified. Filter out the 75+ and you got nothing more to worry about than any other year. Other than watching cnn.

No.
 
During a one year period in 2009-10, 12,700 died of the swine flu, another pandemic that swept the globe. This was during the Obama administration. I don’t recall outrage from republicans over the administrations response.

That's because the administration's response was actually out in front of the WHO pandemic declaration. They actually did a good job of it.
 
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You forgot the part about mortality dropping to 1 from the previous 3-6 range. Will continue to drop as more cases areidentified. Filter out the 75+ and you got nothing more to worry about than any other year. Other than watching cnn.

Because people over 75 years in age don’t count as people?

FFS
 
You forgot the part about mortality dropping to 1 from the previous 3-6 range. Will continue to drop as more cases areidentified. Filter out the 75+ and you got nothing more to worry about than any other year. Other than watching cnn.

25% of your US Senate is 75 or older.
 
I'm sure Trump is glad that you're as dumb as you are, like his millions of other useful idiots. Your man-crush was recklessly critical of Obama during the H1N1 crisis, as well as Ebola. Both of those situations were handled exponentially better than how coronavirus has been, which is why there was less political fallout overall.

Unified? Sounds like you just think everyone should agree with Trump's cavalier attitude toward this crisis, where he has been wrong at every turn yet blames everyone else and pats himself on the back, declaring himself a natural epidemiologist.

Political scientists have ranked Trump's presidency easily in the bottom 5 in history, and that was BEFORE this coronavirus and economy mess. He will go down as the worst president to ever serve. I am just so glad that it will be over in 8 months and I can live my life knowing that I never supported him in any way, shape or form.
Better get your Therapy Cat ordered now. There's going to be a run on them later in the year.
 
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Joes Place has been criticized by some on this board and HROT for his predictions. Seems to me he is on the money.
 
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