You can’t recruit someone who doesn’t want to be recruited by you
I’m not sure people understand the kid already had the ability to call the coaches - they just could not call him. If there was interest, they had already spoken.Explain, please.
I wouldn’t do it off a rumor. I’d have already talked to his HS coaches, club coaches, the kid himself, etc.
If you’re doing it right, you already know. And if you don’t already know, you’re still in the starting blocks when the race is already underway.
And I sure as heck hope leadership thinks the same.
How does everyone fit at PSU?Fans obviously want everyone called facts are it's not a reality and not everyone fits. So many things go into recruiting
Not everyone does many kids go other places. You build it they will come . Iowa had that going on during Gable. Now someone else does. The Iowa staff knows they're getting crushed on the mat and in recruiting against Penn stHow does everyone fit at PSU?
I would hope they would know, it's pretty obvious. The fact Iowa was the top team when Carl went there and proceeded to seemingly do little while getting passed up and buried by him doesn't bring a lot of confidence. The slush fund was a large contributing factor but there were others as well.Not everyone does many kids go other places. You build it they will come . Iowa had that going on during Gable. Now someone else does. The Iowa staff knows they're getting crushed on the mat and in recruiting against Penn st
they have funHow does everyone fit at PSU?
Sure you can. That's part of the job. Also, a coach from Iowa literally called him, so there's that.You can’t recruit someone who doesn’t want to be recruited by you
That’s the difference between sales and taking orders.Sure you can. That's part of the job. Also, a coach from Iowa literally called him, so there's that.
The kid and his family have already made it be known they are not interested in the program.Sure you can. That's part of the job. Also, a coach from Iowa literally called him, so there's that.
That's great. And would make some logical sense if Iowa just didn't call him...but they did call him. Can't have it both ways.The kid and his family have already made it be known they are not interested in the program.
^thisThat's great. And would make some logical sense if Iowa just didn't call him...but they did call him. Can't have it both ways.
And thus the way Iowa handled it makes complete sense. He’s highly rated so they still have someone call, but meanwhile TnT are talking to prospects they have a much better chance of landing.The kid and his family have already made it be known they are not interested in the program.
Sure, because that 5 minute call that Telford handled was much too much effort for Tom or Terry to handle. Because there are only so many pfp top 10 guys out there (actually 10) and 5 minutes was best spent elsewhere. Got it.And thus the way Iowa handled it makes complete sense. He’s highly rated so they still have someone call, but meanwhile TnT are talking to prospects they have a much better chance of landing.
You guys are really making way too much out of this but you do youSure, because that 5 minute call that Telford handled was much too much effort for Tom or Terry to handle. Because there are only so many pfp top 10 guys out there (actually 10) and 5 minutes was best spent elsewhere. Got it.
do they only have so many words that they can share in a day with recruits??? This whole thread is silly. some of you guys get it and others remain clueless. So Go Iowa Awesome!!!And thus the way Iowa handled it makes complete sense. He’s highly rated so they still have someone call, but meanwhile TnT are talking to prospects they have a much better chance of landing.
The recruiting results of the last decade speak for themself. PSU has been bragging about championship teams and we’ve been bragging about Spencer Lee.do they only have so many words that they can share in a day with recruits??? This whole thread is silly. some of you guys get it and others remain clueless. So Go Iowa Awesome!!!
TnT need to make the call. If for no other reason than what has happened. The kid went on flo and iowa looks silly. Another reason TnT make the call is because this kid will talk to other kids about iowa and if he feels disrespected than iowa suffers. TnT are so bad at optics that it went from internet banter to fact based ineptness at this point. if iowa had no interest dont call at all. If they have mild interest at all for a top 10 pfp then TnT needs to make the call.
do they only have so many words that can share in a day with recruits??? This whole thread is silly. some of you guys get it and others remain clueless. So Go Iowa Awesome!!!
TnT need to make the call. If for no other reason than what has happened. The kid went on flo and iowa looks silly. Another reason TnT make the call is because this kid will talk to other kids about iowa and if he feels disrespected than iowa suffers. TnT are so bad at optics that it went from internet banter to fact based ineptness at this
It's a phone call. Literally a minute long.And thus the way Iowa handled it makes complete sense. He’s highly rated so they still have someone call, but meanwhile TnT are talking to prospects they have a much better chance of landing.
Right? And I don’t ever want to hear about a top kid potentially not being a good fit in IC after seeing the red carpet being laid out for the Ferraris.It's a phone call. Literally a minute long.
This, this and this!!Right? And I don’t ever want to hear about a top kid potentially not being a good fit in IC after seeing the red carpet being laid out for the Ferraris.
Totally agree. This was worst case scenario. I think Tom should be calling all of the top ten kids. I guess Knox has publicly said some negative comments about the Hawks on social media. Given that, I think it is even more important to call the kid. You can’t let others control the narrative about the Hawks. Tom is a charismatic and engaging guy. Lay out the vision for Iowa wrestling and how the kid fits into it.do they only have so many words that they can share in a day with recruits??? This whole thread is silly. some of you guys get it and others remain clueless. So Go Iowa Awesome!!!
TnT need to make the call. If for no other reason than what has happened. The kid went on flo and iowa looks silly. Another reason TnT make the call is because this kid will talk to other kids about iowa and if he feels disrespected than iowa suffers. TnT are so bad at optics that it went from internet banter to fact based ineptness at this point. if iowa had no interest dont call at all. If they have mild interest at all for a top 10 pfp then TnT needs to make the call.
Bingo..Totally agree. This was worst case scenario. I think Tom should be calling all of the top ten kids. I guess Knox has publicly said some negative comments about the Hawks on social media. Given that, I think it is even more important to call the kid. You can’t let others control the narrative about the Hawks. Tom is a charismatic and engaging guy. Lay out the vision for Iowa wrestling and how the kid fits into it.
Two things could happen if Tom calls him. First, the kid may actually like Tom and change his mind about Iowa. Guess what? 16-17 year old kids tend to change their minds. Second possibility, the kid says “not interested”. Tom can tell him it was nice chatting and wish him luck. That kid will never forget the call, though. And, the kid may at least speak favorably of Iowa going forward. The kid may even come to Iowa via the transfer portal a few years from now. Think long-term. Plant seeds everywhere and you never know what will grow. Again, just make a 10 minute phone call.
It's a phone call. Literally a minute long.
Is it 1 minute or 5 minutes? I'm really concerned here guys...So, a consensus top 10 guy isn't worth the time it takes to have the head coach make a 5 minute phone call?
Yep, I'm with you. If the call starts to run over 5 minutes Brands should just hang up because there are nine other top ten guys to call. Hopefully it lasts just one minute so he doesn't waste his precious time.Is it 1 minute or 5 minutes? I'm really concerned here guys...
You don’t think TNT have spoken to him or his family already?Totally agree. This was worst case scenario. I think Tom should be calling all of the top ten kids. I guess Knox has publicly said some negative comments about the Hawks on social media. Given that, I think it is even more important to call the kid. You can’t let others control the narrative about the Hawks. Tom is a charismatic and engaging guy. Lay out the vision for Iowa wrestling and how the kid fits into it.
Two things could happen if Tom calls him. First, the kid may actually like Tom and change his mind about Iowa. Guess what? 16-17 year old kids tend to change their minds. Second possibility, the kid says “not interested”. Tom can tell him it was nice chatting and wish him luck. That kid will never forget the call, though. And, the kid may at least speak favorably of Iowa going forward. The kid may even come to Iowa via the transfer portal a few years from now. Think long-term. Plant seeds everywhere and you never know what will grow. Again, just make a 10 minute phone call.
Legally?You don’t think TNT have spoken to him or his family already?
Do you realize what you're indicating?You don’t think TNT have spoken to him or his family already?
It’s tough to sell a cesspool to a kid with access to municipal water and sewer.
They don’t…..see Micheal Beard, Anthony Cassar….there will be bigger log jams coming upHow does everyone fit at PSU?
Yes - kids are allowed to call the coach. However, even if a message is left the coach cannot call back. There was more than enough opportunity to have discussions before the time a coach can make the call.Legally?
Glad you said that many aren't aware of that. Coaches also meet kids at camps and have small talkYes - kids are allowed to call the coach. However, even if a message is left the coach cannot call back. There was more than enough opportunity to have discussions before the time a coach can make the call.
If I’ve learned anything over the years posting here it’s that calling them pedo st does not limit the trolls involvement on this site.Letting pedo state fans make something out of nothing again guys...
No, it seems to bring them out like wild hyenas, cackling and whining.If I’ve learned anything over the years posting here it’s that calling them pedo st does not limit the trolls involvement on this site.
I love how "Lisa" carries on a sophisticated conversation with "Arnold" about investing or something and "Oliver" is like wth? 😆😆Green Acres...that's some funny shit!!
Arnold is a pig of many talents. He is even a tail predictor.I love how "Lisa" carries on a sophisticated conversation with "Arnold" about investing or something and "Oliver" is like wth? 😆😆