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That doesn't change the value of them. How can you be this ignorant and arrogant simultaneously?Not if those shares are given to them. Or optioned at a low price. JFC - is there anything you're not ignorant about?
That's the 4th, perhaps 5th time you've made an affirmative statement on a premise you (incorrectly) think I subscribe to. Are you going to stop doing that or should I just start ignoring youLOL...so now you're going to tell us that they don't self-deal to their own benefit and to the detriment of the small investor. I already posted the story of a CEO who back-dated stock options. You think they don't all look for ways to game the system? I notice, BTW, that you have again pointedly ignored a previous post...see #183 and opine please, on how a CEO who runs a company into the ground gets hundreds of millions of dollars as a severance package? You think a guy who knows he's getting $300,000,000 if he gets FIRED gives a fvck about shareholders? Two possibilities...you are either the dumbest or most gullible poster on HORT. Possibility three...you are both.
No, this is the millionth time in this thread that, when presented with info that DIRECTLY refutes your claims, you duck and cover and ignore. So post your central premise in a concise sentence.That's the 4th, perhaps 5th time you've made an affirmative statement on a premise you (incorrectly) think I subscribe to. Are you going to stop doing that or should I just start ignoring you
Not disputing any of that.Not even close. Medicare sets the rate which is price fixing. All insurance companies negotiate rates as a percentage of Medicare. People aren't charged what services are worth. I save your life by taking out your kidney cancer and make $1350. You survive another 20+ years. What's that worth to you? Yet we bitch about Taylor Swift Tickets and pay KF some crazy number to coach football.
Conversion factor is the rate Drs. get paid which has been cut since the late 80s. Green is indexed to what it would be if we just kept up with inflation. People wonder why doctors are quitting in droves.
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You don't even know my claims or positions - youve been wrong every time you've tried summarizing. You seem to be reading what you want to regardless of what is posted.No, this is the millionth time in this thread that, when presented with info that DIRECTLY refutes your claims, you duck and cover and ignore. So post your central premise in a concise sentence.
Actually it does. There's no way you will ever figure out why and I won't waste my time trying to explain it.That doesn't change the value of them. How can you be this ignorant and arrogant simultaneously?
No it doesnt. Theres not some super secret exchange for the elite. Stop being obtuse.Actually it does. There's no way you will ever figure out why and I won't waste my time trying to explain it.
WTF are you talking about now?No it doesnt. Theres not some super secret exchange for the elite. Stop being obtuse.
Your bogus claim that certain people have higher value stock holdings.WTF are you talking about now?
Where did I claim that? You just make shit up all the time. And you're so stupid you don't understand that it doesn't aid your argument.Your bogus claim that certain people have higher value stock holdings.
Post 207Where did I claim that? You just make shit up all the time. And you're so stupid you don't understand that it doesn't aid your argument.
You are so ignorant and so insecure. Bad combination.
Curious...how much do they pay for those stock options?No it doesnt. Theres not some super secret exchange for the elite. Stop being obtuse.
Being as how they're typically part of their salary, the answer is "time".Curious...how much do they pay for those stock options?
The arrogance and obtuseness to deny a cited post (that you posted) is staggering.So, I didn't. Again, just you making shit up.
Ahhh...so they get these options at zero cost. And any price they sell them at is gravy. Thanks.Being as how they're typically part of their salary, the answer is "time".
You're a moron. Quit trying to act smart because it's not working.The arrogance and obtuseness to deny a cited post (that you posted) is staggering.
Sorta like that 401K your employer provides, or HSA funds, or any other variety of benefits.Ahhh...so they get these options at zero cost. And any price they sell them at is gravy. Thanks.
Somebody doesn't understand stock options.
Lol - I never said what you claimed. You only think so because you're stupid.The arrogance and obtuseness to deny a cited post (that you posted) is staggering.
I said that doesn't change the value, you said it does. There's no way to interpret that any other way. If they choose to liquidate their holdings, it's done at the same value as mine if I chose to do the same at the same time.Lol - I never said what you claimed. You only think so because you're stupid.
You're an idiot.I said that doesn't change the value, you said it does. There's no way to interpret that any other way. If they choose to liquidate their holdings, it's done at the same value as mine if I chose to do the same at the same time.
It changes their value compared to someone who has bought them at a set price. But…and I noted this earlier…you don’t really understand stock options.Sorta like that 401K your employer provides, or HSA funds, or any other variety of benefits.
And regardless, still isnt changing the value of those holdings....
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No - the value is the same regardless of who owns them and at what price they paid. The DE stocks i owned that were bought at ~$30/share are worth the same as the ones bought at $400/share and it doesnt matter if I used post tax money, pre tax money, inheritance money, HSA money. They all have the same value.It changes their value compared to someone who has bought them at a set price. But…and I noted this earlier…you don’t really understand stock options.
Keep throwing insults if youd like, but its not changing the fact you made a claim and now you're refusing to acknowledge it despite the clear citation.You're an idiot.
Didn't make the claim you suggested. I did make the claim that you don't know what you're talking about and you keep proving that true.Keep throwing insults if youd like, but its not changing the fact you made a claim and now you're refusing to acknowledge it despite the clear citation.
You did. You clearly said those stocks have a higher value. Thats just not true.Didn't make the claim you suggested. I did make the claim that you don't know what you're talking about and you keep proving that true.
Find the post where I said those words. You can't. You're making shit up like always to try to cover for your stupidity.You did. You clearly said those stocks have a higher value. Thats just not true.
Ive already done that. Post #207. You actually tried denying you made that post then.Find the post where I said those words. You can't. You're making shit up like always to try to cover for your stupidity.