Unless you are the weirdest 112 year old you have never experienced a football conference championship.
Must ignore isu grad?
ESPN: ISU had easiest path to Sweet 16
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Unless you are the weirdest 112 year old you have never experienced a football conference championship.
Must ignore isu grad?
How am I ignoring that? Iowa State is historically one of the worst division 1 football programs in the country. Sad that you resort to football banter on a basketball board. Pretty much sums up your bball program.
Georges Niang had as many tournament wins in 48 hours as the Hawk senior class had in their entire four year career.
So if isu doesn't win 2 games and get to the final four isu grad will come back and tell us how myopic and wrong they were about the so called awesome isu basketball program?
I see we now have another isu grad is going to the selective time frame card. If isu's program is so much better than Iowa's then why must you go with selective history?
Oh and just to clarify isu isn't one of the worst football programs in history they are the worst football program in division one history. But of course feel free to entertain us some more by trying to show otherwise.
Good luck.
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All this speculation about if ISU had this path or faced this team.....wah wah wah, blah blah blah, jesus STFU! Fact remains & cannot be contested: 5 Straight NCAA's with 2 Sweet 16's at a minimum we'll see after this weekend. And let me add they beat North Carolina to reach last Sweet 16. So regardless of how much Muscatine grad Herkyfan wants to try & minimalize the accomplishment. Sorry, can't be done, still dancing with our without your support. Face it. Take it all in. Have a beer and enjoy the show - cuz there's not a g'damn thing you can do about it! bawahahahahahaa
Another isu grad with selective history. Entertain us some more clowns.
You can do it. You can do it. You can do it.
Why the hell are we comparing football to basketball? There is no comparison. As far as the "you can only play the teams on your schedule" excuse, it's pretty weak. You can only play the conference teams on your schedule, but every bit of criticism is deserved for scheduling and playing a weak non-conference schedule.
Apparently the only losers who go to the selective history card are those where their history isn't that impressive. Maybe isu grads should tout women's volleyball or cross-country. Something they are actually better than Iowa for. No one year or two or five or even 50 but pretty much since both have been competing.
Would isu being big bro in women's volleyball and women's cross-country make isu grads feel better?
Would isu being big bro in women's volleyball and women's cross-country make isu grads feel better?
Well Iowa certainly should be held accountable for isu sucking so bad in football. Hell Illinois State was a better game than isu. They generated more than 67 yards of total offense against us in the second half and actually managed to score unlike the clowns.
What I am comparing is that isu grads still go on and on and on and on about Iowa's football schedule and now that the shoe is on the other foot and media outlets are saying isu had the easiest road to the sweet 16 all clown fans want to talk about is how isu had no control over that.
Grasp it yet isu grad? isu grad is now arguing the exact same thing they claimed Hawk fans couldn't argue last fall.
Yes they would have. Iowa State would have played Purdue in the round of 32 instead of playing ALR, I'm surprised at you CyCity
.When again will the mighty isu SOS translate to the post season? These so called awesome teams isu faced have done nothing in the post season.
If Baylor, WVA, Texas and Texas Tech were as awesome as isu grads make them out to be maybe they wouldn't have been one and done in the touney. This isn't just this year either. isu grad has touted their bogus SOS for the last 6 years and yet the outcome has been the same.
If Baylor, WVA, Texas and Texas Tech were as awesome as isu grads make them out to be maybe they wouldn't have been one and done in the touney. This isn't just this year either. isu grad has touted their bogus SOS for the last 6 years and yet the outcome has been the same.
And I would like to add that when ISU beat North Carolina to reach the Sweet 16 they did so without Georges Niang who broke his foot in the previous game in the round of 64.
I don't know how anyone today could make an accurate assessment either way. Just in November isu grads were saying how isu was going to topple KU on their way to the final four. Will we see any of them come back and tell us just how myopic and unfounded they were? Nope not a chance, not with isu grads.
But it will be entertaining to watch them spin it for pages and pages of posts.
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and how did that turn out, did the clowns go to the final four? Did they win the national title? Did they come back the next year and topple KU on their way to the elite 8 or did they get punked by UAB?
I remember just a month ago when Iowa was going to be the #1 overall seed playing in Des Moines. That worked out pretty well for ya boys. Yep if we win Friday and Sunday I'll be back here to let you know we won more tournament games in two weeks (4) than Iowa has since the turn of the century (3). Lose and we still made the sweet 16. Something Iowa has not accomplished this century. Congrats on all those solid teams from the 70s though. Your prestige is right up there with KU, UNC and Kentucky. Carver just wreaks of history.
The only people who go to the selective history card are those who have crappy history. Can you say isu? Sure ya can.
Oh and you don't have to be UNC, Kentucky or KU to have a much better history than isu, Iowa does that without being anywhere near a blue blood.
More little bro syndrome please.
Selective history? I said congrats on your great teams from the 70s. Iowa was better than Iowa State at that time. Fact remains a four seed and a sweet 16 birth would have been Iowa's best season this century. I can understand the envy.
The fact remains if isu was truly better then history would show it. The thing with little bro is that they always return to the norm and so does Iowa.
Little bro can live in their selective time frames and yet in the end it just doesn't matter isu is still little bro isu.
But at least you have story county nailed down. TV networks will line up left and right to get those TV's. Some of them are even in color.
I'm sorry...late 70s and you really turned it on in the 80s. I have no memory of those events but if you are an old timer and remember those events from 30 years back what a great run. For any Hawkeye fans around 40 years or younger however...been a tough run : (
isu is still little bro. Too bad for all the awesomeness isu supposedly has that they still end up as little bro. But hey make sure Pollard is ready to take his pitch to all the networks if the Texas Ten folds. I hear they are all ready to fall all over themselves and ready for a bidding war to wrap up Story County Iowa.
I am so looking forward to isu getting in on some MACtion.
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So since you are a child and have no sense of history I will let you in on a little secret. Do you know why isu has earned the moniker of "clowns"? It is simple really, isu like a good clown is something to laugh at not something to be taken seriously.
The isu grads that post here are doing a fine job of holding up the isu tradition of being "clowns". Keep at it isu grads. I am sure Pollard is "SO PROUD".
LOL @ the loser Hawk fans in this thread trying to tear down the fact that ISU is better than we are at basketball.
What a bunch of whiny little bitches. The jealousy and butthurt is palpable.
What a bunch of whiny little bitches. The jealousy and butthurt is palpable.
I ignored Herky fan but I'm guessing from the responses his talking points are:
1) ISU is little brother because we were dominant in the series last century. Neglecting the fact that anyone who has been following the series for the past 20 years doesn't remember a time where ISU has been more than competitive.
2) Makes fun of selective history while trying to pretend the last 20 years haven't happened, ironic
3) Has he mentioned Pollard, Chrissy Williams or Brent with Blummers?
4) Has made fun of the "Texas Ten" for underachieving while there are just as many Big 12 teams left as Big 10 teams in the sweet 16. While not acknowledging that Michigan State got boned by a 15 seed that got destroyed by Syracuse or Purdue who got beat by a 12 seed that ISU dismantled.
Please let me know which I hit or missed.
1) ISU is little brother because we were dominant in the series last century. Neglecting the fact that anyone who has been following the series for the past 20 years doesn't remember a time where ISU has been more than competitive.
2) Makes fun of selective history while trying to pretend the last 20 years haven't happened, ironic
3) Has he mentioned Pollard, Chrissy Williams or Brent with Blummers?
4) Has made fun of the "Texas Ten" for underachieving while there are just as many Big 12 teams left as Big 10 teams in the sweet 16. While not acknowledging that Michigan State got boned by a 15 seed that got destroyed by Syracuse or Purdue who got beat by a 12 seed that ISU dismantled.
Please let me know which I hit or missed.
If the Texas Ten was better than the Big Ten then why don't they have more teams in the sweet 16? In fact why doesn't the Texas Ten have more tourney wins than the Big 10 so far? Yep PU and MSU lost and guess what the Big 10 is still out performing the Texas Ten.
The last 20 years have happened but guess what it doesn't matter, isu is still the lillte bro. Clearly that drives isu grads crazy or they wouldn't be here in droves.
This is great. isu grad can't handle what is brought up about isu so they put me on ignore. It's not fair to point out facts about isu, isu grad will run away and hide. They won't leave, god no their little bro syndrome would never allow that but by god anyone who points out things about isu well they must be ignored. That will make it all go away.
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Or maybe just maybe Hawk fans are simply repeating the arguments heard from isu grads since last September regarding football results.
Naw pointing out the obvious simply isn't fair.
Let's be honest here, if you guys didn't already know your path was cake getting to the sweet 16, you wouldn't be over here trying to prove it to an obvious troll. As far as next year, is Morris staying? I've heard Jackson was promised that Morris was leaving, and that's why he committed. Also, is Naz going to be healthy and granted a 5th year despite playing this year, after his surgery?
I don't think that Long will have any eligibility issues for a 5th year. Health on the other hand is probably a bigger question. Two bad hips are difficult to deal with. Walking is one thing but competitive D1 basketball is a different beast. I do hope he is healthy though. Hate to see athletes go down and never really recover to the level they once had. Jess Settles comes to mind.
Good questions, if Naz isn't better after all this time off, he won't ever be. He wasn't playing badly when he was playing, but having him at 100% would be big. I personally think Monte will test the waters and be back. This is a fairly strong PG draft and I haven't seen Monte in the 1st round on any mock drafts. Big guys are the biggest concern, how good will Malou, Bowie, Carter, Jakolby Long, Ernst be? IDK.
And yes the sweet 16 run has been pretty easy, I don't know why an ISU fan would be insecure about that, sometimes you have good fortune. We've been on the other side of luck recently playing Kentucky and UConn in the round of 32 and 16 respectively, both won the championship. As well as playing a pretty good #2 seed Ohio State in the round of 32 that had 3 NBA players.
I would be surprised if Morris didn't come back. I don't believe Jackson was promised anything but I know Prohm felt comfortable with him taking over the reigns next year if Morris left. Iowa State's back court is going to be very good next year
I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised by years end how much better Iowa is than anticipated. Most athletic team easily in recent memory, sorely lacking this year.
That would be great, effort/swagger/determination is contagious. It feels like Baer has all those things. Hopefully the other players see that and internalize it.
With what you guys return and what you bring in I think it will all come down to having a serviceable point guard.
Jones being healthy is huge as well with his 45% 3 point shooting ability and he is a tall guy who can crash the boards. If Jok does what we all know he can do and avg close to 20 PPG and Williams continues to progress, Bohannon doesn't get destroyed on defense I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised. Moss is a major wildcard hear a lot of great things about him so curious to see what Fran does with him and where he primarily is lined up at.
Agree, it seems to be Fran's biggest crutch so far in his tenure, AC/MG great guys and decent players but no where close to elite and the main reason Iowa folded 2 out of 3 years and got ran out of building vs Nova.
With 10 posters in there contributing, great % representation of fanbase. My hope is the NCAA closes these silly loopholes and lifts the 1 and done requirement.
