Who recruited these guys, all of whom apparently are not break down dribble drive guy(s)? Moss will be the only addition next year that may be such a player who isn't already available this year.
Fran almost cost us that one
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Its actually not stupid to continue to shoot open 3s.
It perfectly logical. Iowa is a jump shooting team, the percentages will even out.
Now some of those weren't good shots but Uthoff has made those all year.
To say Iowa is not effective as a team shooting 3s is just factually untrue.
Actually its been mostly the same players. We have 3 four year starters. Frans only been here 6.
When he had Matt Gattens we won close games at the end.
Allot of Iowas problems are due to the guards, the ones that have been starting 4 years.
Gator won tight games by not turning the ball over, making shots and clutch free throws.
Interesting how a coach becomes a genius when his players play well.
Interesting how a coach becomes a genius when his players play well.
I fully agree with this, Our guards give us all they have, They play well with what they can do on the court, That said, They simply are not upper echelon guards and are not great shooters or physically able to break down defenders in late game situations, it really limits as a coach what you can do in those situations. I really like Fran overall, And I do think the program continues to trend in the right direction, I still think Iowa needs to land some very talented PG's to help complete the elevation of the program. (Maybe Williams can become one of those, fingers crossed).
Excellent post.
If either of our guards were decent jump shooters off the dribble it would help their drive game immensely.
I expect Williams to be pretty good at attacking off the bounce too.
Hes already showed some things that we haven't had in a while.
His hop step covers allot of ground.
Problem is Uhl is not capable of passing. He's the most selfish player on our team. I honestly think it's because he gets tunnel vision and it stems from the fact he hasn't played much organized basketball more than from him actually being selfish, but he doesn't see the floor to distribute so to ne, this isn't an option.
Really frustrating Mike isn't better at this, with his hops you would think he would excel at pullups around the ft line and lane. I wonder if that elbow issue he had messed with his shot, he had better release/arc as a frosh.
He showed flashes of glide and burst and ability to finish too, be fun to see next year when he probably gets baptism by fire.
The evidence if the last 6 weeks says Iowa is not a jump shooting team and will get beat relying on 3 pointers and jump shots.
Fran will call a specific set here and there for uthoff on the block and it's a quick hitter to get a basket. It's a great set and we score a lot of it. But anyone pointing to that as Fran making a commitment to get uthoff on the block isn't paying attention or doesn't understand.
The effort needs to be made in the base offense. We did it against Iowa State and that was the last time we've seen a concerted effort to post uthoff. He's not shooting the 3 particularly well right now. And when we don't include him in the offense or work him to the block, Jared floats on the arc and gets lost, ends up being a non factor. That can't happen tomorrow.
You guys think I'm being a dick and overly critical, which whatever. But I think we can win tomorrow. I think we can win tomorrow AND beat Miami next weekend which puts you one win from a Final Four. But we have to play smarter and we have to play to our strengths which means less 3s and more of an effort to play off our bigs, namely Uthoff but woody too. And whoever said we were ineffective running off of Woodbury, that's a totally inaccurate statement. He's a skilled big man. Smart player, good passer, and he's not devoid of skill on the block. We just never go to him.
Tomorrow is huge for this program. We need to take this step and we need to win this game. Villanova is good, no question, but they're not more talented than us. It's gonna require a lot smarter basketball out of our coaches and players on both ends of the court than what we saw yesterday if they're gonna take that step.
Most of the 3 attempts were from Jok and JU.
It's not bad coaching for those two to continue to shoot 3s.
I agree the shot selection from Uthoff could have been better, Joks were absolutely fine.
I'm all for JU posting more but there's nothing wrong with him shooting 3s either.
You bring up valid arguments about shot selection and the fact that this team too frequently settles for jumpshots without attacking the lane.
However, you take your criticisms much too far. For example, you say that Iowa did not play smart on either end of the floor while in the same paragraph pointing out that we committed zero turnovers in 38 minutes. I happen to believe that a lack of turnovers is a reflection of smart play and good coaching. Had we shot 50% from the floor but turned it over 20 times, I'm sure you and others would be complaining about Fran letting a senior-led team nearly hand over the game with stupid turnovers.
It's valid to criticize Fran because this team has regressed since January and we see recurring issues on both side of the ball. However, even though this team has not played well in the last few weeks, they have still not lost any game by double digits. The players have been put in position to win every game on our schedule. Had our players made a big shot and a big stop in the closing minutes in any one of our losses, we could have won. At the end of the day, it's on the players to make plays.
Based on your comments, it sounds like you don't think Fran knows what he's doing. It isn't blind luck that's allowed Fran to take 5 different schools to the NCAA Tournament. He's a good coach.
I noticed even the announcers saying that Iowa doesn't want to shoot themselves out of this game when we seemingly had it put away and kept firing up 3's that didn't go. IMO Woodbury single-handedly kept us alive dominating on the boards the way he did.
Even Jordan would stop shooting jump shots if he wasn't making them. Uthoff has the skills to score off the dribble and post guys down low. His shot was off, no reason to settle for jump shots. That's the definition of insanity. If something isn't working, you try something different. If you aren't hitting jump shots then you try driving to the hoop and drawing fouls, or posting up guys. You don't just keep chucking up 3 pointers from 25 feet. This is just Basketball 101.
He's just a poor game coach. Thankfully, sometimes talent and good execution overcome poor game coaching. I'd love to see Fran hand the in-game coaching over to one of the asst coaches. Repeatedly going to Gesell for the final shot, when he's never delivered, is the clear indication he's a poor game coach.
No, if you're a legit shooter you keep shooting. Thats basketball 101.
Now could the shot selection have been better, yes, the fade aways are not working anymore. But Fran can't physically control every move a player makes.
He emphasizes driving to the hoop but ultimately the player will decide what he wants to do.
I thought the color announcer was going to lose it because Iowa refused to post Uthoff up, instead electing to watch him chuck up 3's from 25 feet. Thankfully, Iowa was getting a lot of offensive rebounds because the shot selection for much of the game was atrocious. Hell, Fran seemed like he was about ready to blow a gasket going into the locker room when he told the female reporter that the shot selection the final 10 minutes was abysmal. It didn't get any better in the 2nd half.
Its hard to say what leads to the mistakes. It might be that we are milking the most out of players that have some serious limitations. That said, this senior class has choked in close games and blown huge leads in the second half too many times for it to be merely coincidence. We obviously have a problem. The next couple of years will be more illuminative of the cause.
We cannot really bench the starters for making mistakes because there is such a huge step down to the bench. None of the bench players have close to the talent and game skills that the starters have.
All of that having been said, this is the first class that received three NCAA invites in a row since AC Earl and Wade Lookingbill's senior class. We won an opening round game 2 years in a row for the first time in 18 seasons. Great progress has been made.
We cannot really bench the starters for making mistakes because there is such a huge step down to the bench. None of the bench players have close to the talent and game skills that the starters have.
All of that having been said, this is the first class that received three NCAA invites in a row since AC Earl and Wade Lookingbill's senior class. We won an opening round game 2 years in a row for the first time in 18 seasons. Great progress has been made.
Wrong. Not when you can score other ways, which Uthoff can do. Call plays for him posting his guy and you don't have to worry about shot selection (from 25 feet), or whether he'll drive to the hoop. It forces him to be more aggressive, and allows him to get to the FT line more often. Just chucking up 3's when you are ice cold is a stupid basketball, and it leads to a lot of coaches getting fired, and NBA players being out of work.
High percentage shooters are going to shoot. Period.
You don't stop shooting just because you missed before.
Uthoff is not great at attacking off the dribble or posting up. Can he do it yes, but its not what makes his game.
Im not saying he shouldn't try to attack the basket or that all of those shots were good ones but overall shooters are going to shoot. Off nights happen, it is what it is.
Its seems great to say you shouldn't shoot in hindsight but thats not how it works.
Agree completely but doesn't mean that I'm not looking forward to seeing next year's team. I believe they will be even better, immediately, well I think they'll win 20 games next year, is that better? Not exactly but IMO higher ceiling for the team next year
If all you can do is shoot jump shots, then agree with you. If you have more to your game, then you are retarded to continue to shoot 3's when your shot is off. It is possible to make 3 pt plays the old fashioned way.
When he was playing his best basketball he was attacking and posting up. Go back and watch the ISU game. He was killing ISU posting them up.
A shooter knows when his shot is off and you don't just keep chucking up outside shots, especially from 25 feet with 25 seconds in the shot clock. Even the announcers were saying Uthoff was taking bad shots and too quick in the shot clock. Look for easier shots. The 25 ft 3 pointer will always be there.
You must not watch a lot of basketball. The best players, ones who can do more than shoot jump shots, don't continue to chuck 3 after 3 when they are ice cold. Just doesn't happen very often. They find other ways to score. Your argument might hold a little water with someone like Jok, who's pretty much a jump shooter, and that's it. This isn't the case with Uthoff, and the fact you think he is means you aren't very observant watching Uthoff or don't understand what you are watching.
