I have never confused an apple with a donut. Unless they are apple cider donuts ...
Fran has done well, but Iowa Basketball simply does not occupy where it once did in this State
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I have never confused an apple with a donut. Unless they are apple cider donuts ...
I've never had an applie cider donut. I've had donuts with apple cider, which is an excellent snack.
This is a bit of a "chicken or egg" situation with the students, but I sure as heck wouldn't change their seating arrangement to give them premium seating until they at least show an interest in showing up and supporting the team. We have the worst student support in the Big Ten, and that includes a number of teams where the students sit in the end zones.
The season starts about two weeks too early IMHO. The first game was November 13th this year...is that college basketball season, or college football season.
Style of play is another contributing factor. The het-day of Hawkeye attendence was during the Lute & Tom Davis eras Up-tempo and pressing teams that create lots of turnover and allow the home team to score in 8-10-12 point spurts is exciting and represents entertainment value.
I also agree with those that point out the Saturday afternoon game thing...its beyond silly to not play the games when the fans want to attended them...a couple Suday games a year is OK, but not having ANY Saturday games in a farce.
Having real student section. One that is configured to hold 3-5K students that can buy $1 or $2 General Admission tix the day of the game would help too. Anybody over 30 is a grey hair to the players...the want their fellow students cheering them on and providing the energy for Carver.
Style of play is another contributing factor. The het-day of Hawkeye attendence was during the Lute & Tom Davis eras Up-tempo and pressing teams that create lots of turnover and allow the home team to score in 8-10-12 point spurts is exciting and represents entertainment value.
I also agree with those that point out the Saturday afternoon game thing...its beyond silly to not play the games when the fans want to attended them...a couple Suday games a year is OK, but not having ANY Saturday games in a farce.
Having real student section. One that is configured to hold 3-5K students that can buy $1 or $2 General Admission tix the day of the game would help too. Anybody over 30 is a grey hair to the players...the want their fellow students cheering them on and providing the energy for Carver.
And they are mid afternoon games which is perfect. Drive down in the morning and home in the evening.
Are you saying 30% of your arena pays 12.5k for seats? I have trouble buying that but well done if true.
Same thoughts as many. Student section continues to be anemic. Without the pep band, there would be no noise at some of these games. 6pm & 8pm starts don't help and the athletic office still thinks an empty seat can buy popcorn, pop, and make noise. Sorry, 18.00 for WIU is too much and you can't buy the promotional packages at the window.
$10.00 non conference tickets excluding ISU / premier matchups and more flexibility with family packages will help. Take the money spent on the awful bobble head promotions and use it for ticket promotions. Does anyone else still do bobble head promotions? Seems a bit 2005 to me.
$10.00 non conference tickets excluding ISU / premier matchups and more flexibility with family packages will help. Take the money spent on the awful bobble head promotions and use it for ticket promotions. Does anyone else still do bobble head promotions? Seems a bit 2005 to me.
I would think ISU priority standards would include length of time having season tics & length of time of giving $. Mr Lone Clone has not provided that info.
Where I sit in Carver...if someone new (off the street) wanted to purchase..its going to cost them a lot more then what it cost me...I would think ISU has the same similar conditions.
When the own your seat $$$ program started...Iowa's athletic dept had to decide what priority they were going to consider for those fans that have been with us going back decades. I don't believe there are as many $12.5K donors in Hilton nor Carver as people would like to project.
I know this..at my age if someone told me to shell out $12K to keep my seat...I'm gone. I'll support Iowa athletics but not at that amount.
The place I worked for in Ames had seats in the lower bowl for men's basketball, about 10-12 rows up, and we never donated anything close to $12,500 per year. I think it was more in the $1-2,000 donation range and had been for years. Like hawk-i-bob, if they asked for $12,500 a year, we would have given them up in a heartbeat.
When was this? I used to have seats right at courtside, when Hornacek was playing, for a $1,000 annual donation. Then it went to $2,500, then $5,000, and a couple of years after Fred arrived, $12,500. There really isn't any question about this. It's been discussed at length on the Cyclone boards by people who have bought, or who have tried to buy, tickets. In my case, I went a few years without season MBB tickets (I have had season FB tickets since 1974). I was at the $2,500 level when I decided to buy season MBB tickets again, and was told I would be in the balcony. I upped my donation to $5,000 and got into the area I think of as the parquet. A year or two ago, they increased the donation level again, but grandfathered those of us who were already there at a lower level.
As I've said, I don't know how many seats are sold at that price. about 5,000 seats are below the concourse, I think. However, you have the students taking up both ends on the floor, and you have seats reserved in that area for recruits, family, etc. And there are the grandfathered people like LC. So no, not every seat in that area requires a $12,500 donation. I never said it did. The point is that if you walk in and say you want to buy a seat below the concourse, that's what you're told.
Little confused with the student section comment & the $18.00 for Western Ill...students don't pay 18.00. I get season tics for the B1G games and a few of the good non-conf match ups...the game against MichSt (as with the other b1G games) will be more than worth what I pay...I realize not every home game in Non-Conference is going to be against a top ranked foe.
Iowa has had family package tics for quite a few years now..maybe you missed seeing those?
The size of the student section against an ACC team in Florida State was pretty low ... it wasn't Western Ill. Was really surprised at the low student turnout for that game.
yep stop buying tics even for a short period of time....you lose priority..come back like you did and you get the current donation rate based on where u want your seats.
some people in your $12,500 section have a priority that allows for a less (much less) donation...
if Iowa or ISU think they are going to get $12K or higher when we old people stop buying tics (die) from mew attendees..they should take another guess. Oh there will be some...who can toss it out...but they wont sell it out.
...I can say for sure there are a number of season ticket people at Iowa who "never" attend a game..they are buying the tics & donating under their name but someone else is going and paying the season ticket holder...relatives - friends. We're talking so called premium seats...that's not suppose to happen with staff but it does.
make them free for students. They pay plenty for their education, make these games free and you will see a much rowdier crowd. And to those who say it can't or shouldn't be done tell that to Duke.
I know Lone Clone is fos, I am just letting him dig a bigger hole. I tried getting a premium seat in Carver and they are all sold out.
ISU has a point system that takes longevity into consideration, but it's about the last factor they use in determining seating priority. If Joe has had season tickets every year since Hilton opened and gives $1,000 a year, and Sam is buying tickets for the first time and gives $1,000 a year, Joe will have a higher priority than Sam. If, however, Sam gives $1,001, he will have a higher priority than Joe.
You ninny, cannot you read? Go to the Iowa web site and see how many premium seats are available, period. Then find somebody to explain to you why it's less difficult to sell 500 seats than it is to sell 3,000 seats. Then have somebody do the math and explain to you why requiring a $12,500 donation every year is a higher bar than requireing a $12,500 donation spread over 5 years.
It's not just Iowa that is having attendance problems, but at least (for the bottom line) they are selling a lot of tickets. You can watch any number of basketball games on TV and see half empty arenas, even at places like UCLA. There is simply a glut of sports programming these days compared to the 70's and even the 80's. Back then, there used to be The Big Ten Basketball Game of the Week on Saturday afternoon. And that is what you got. Some local markets like the Hawkeyes then chose to create their own networks to show most of their games, but the arenas were still, for the most part, filled for every contest. As cable got more prevalent and sports networks popped up, there was gradually more and more programming and not just weekends, but during the week. Now it's omnipresent. For example, last night, I had the opportunity to watch at least eight different college basketball games, all in HD and from the comfort of my chair. This is tremendous for the sports fan, but it has to be troubling to some degree to AD's trying to sell tickets. But at least, thanks to the BTN, they get a bag of loot every year to ease the pain.
All that said, I assume, once the Big Ten starts it's conference schedule, Carver will be much fuller than it has been up to this point. We still have a pretty dedicated fanbase, with the exception of consistent student participation.
All that said, I assume, once the Big Ten starts it's conference schedule, Carver will be much fuller than it has been up to this point. We still have a pretty dedicated fanbase, with the exception of consistent student participation.
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I've mentioned this in the past about the arena. There are way to many isles on the lower courtside seating areas. With the isles going from the top all the way down to the floor, they end up having isles every 3-5 seats making it appear as though there are even fewer fans in attendance than there is. They need to make a lower level runway with fewer isles extending down to the floor.
As a side comment, I also believe they need to remove the 1st 5 rows of seating around the entire court and make that area the student section...standing only and free. Students would surround the entire court. Then have row 1 high enough for the blue hair donors to see over the heads of the students. You can't tell me students would not fill courtside with a chance to be on National TV, going crazy supporting the Hawks. And since the area surrounds the entire court, it truly would be the Hawk's Nest.
Disclosure: Not a student, never was a student, always and forever a fan!
Man, you have paid to see some REALLY shitty football in your time on this earth.
He also got to see the great Iowa Football resurgence during the Hayden Fry era when the Big 10 got turned upside down and inside out.
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