Isaiah Johnson-Arigu too. Unless Fran was just informed in the past month he's gone, it's a crappy move to have a kid transfer up and enroll midseason just to have to hit the portal again next month.
Fran is gone
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Iowa can’t afford to have 1/3 of Carver empty. His buyout isn’t that big of a deal considering they lose millions in attendance each year he’s here.
I remember Barta sounding luke warm about Lickliter a week or so before he got canned. Even used an upcoming Purdue game as a goal which seemed kinda stupid. Like one game would make a diff that late into the problem. But I think he was just responding to being questioned about Lickliter at the time. I agree Beth not saying anything is interesting but is she being asked, or is there no real opportunity to be asked.
The smoke doesn’t matter. A new coach will attempt to keep who he can (if wants them). Likely a new coach brings players with him and dips deep into the portal. I’m not concerned about anyone leaving.
Me neither. I was responding to a post saying that Fran should stay because he’s got the program headed in the right direction, which I disagreed with.
A coaching change at any school will come with massive roster turnover. But now, more than ever, a new coach can quickly replenish the cabinets
If he says Carver going to be even more empty than it was this year....
For the majority of Hawk fans, Fran has worn out his welcome, it's time to part ways.....
I’m not going to reread this entire thread, but did someone actually say that? That has to be a joke. That is about as opposite as it gets. The team has literally gotten worse every year for 5 straight seasons. That’s actually pretty hard to do, because most coaches get fired prior to that “accomplishment.” There’s no way that a few good recruits and a win at Nebraska should be anywhere close to enough to save his job. Time to move on….
Yeah but we also beat Washington and Rutgers and Northwestern and Penn State and we absolutely destroyed New Hampshire and New Orleans.
According to a very well known donor, Fran is done.
I don’t think there are many that have a problem with that, me included.
So? Is he going to be the National POY or the #4 NBA pick? Because we know what the results are with that caliber of player.
Agree attendance will continue to suffer if Fran stays—whether it gets substantially better with someone else remains to be seen. FWIW I am hoping for a change. As a season ticket holder, Carver’s been a real drag the past several years. Us regulars do what we can, but it still kinda sucks.
Don't get short sighted Beth.
Really don't think you can afford to let McCollum leave the state of Iowa.
What's the upside to keeping Fran? So he can coach maybe 3 more years with similar results? Then what? Pretty likely that McCollum will be moved on by then.
Really don't think you can afford to let McCollum leave the state of Iowa.
What's the upside to keeping Fran? So he can coach maybe 3 more years with similar results? Then what? Pretty likely that McCollum will be moved on by then.
You guys are going to be so sorry when Beth fires Fran. This coaching stuff ain't easy ya know. Look what happened to the football team's offense after she fired Brian.
Oh wait...
Oh wait...
Yeah that was a weak team beating another weak team. It was enjoyable and hope they continue but make the change.
we've been told Beth is the "real deal."
she made the right decision when it came to Brian Ferentz.
will she make the right decision when it comes to the men's head basketball coach?
we'll likely see in a matter of days.
Why would anyone think this is 50/50. The decision to move on from from should have certainly been decided before the post season.
Fans are not coming back once they’ve made the decision themselves to move on from fran.
Moving forward with the status quo is untenable.
Fans are not coming back once they’ve made the decision themselves to move on from fran.
Moving forward with the status quo is untenable.
This is her 1st chance to prove that she's the real deal.
The Brian Ferentz decision was handed down from her superiors. She was still the interim AD at that time.
The Brian deal was all but setup for her. She had nothing to do with BF contract requiring point average right? This was before she came in.
And tonightAfter 15 years there's no where to go but up. Thank goodness they decided to get serious when missing the B10 tournament was on the table.
You got me. 2 games at the end of a 15 year career certainly is a trend!
Why would either “have” to hit the portal again? If they’re as good as advertised, then the new coach will likely be encouraging them to stay committed. Maybe it’s Iowa City that they are looking forward to and not just the privilege of playing for Fran…
Exactly...ideally you come to Iowa to fight for Iowa, not fight for Fran. And thats why, in part, Fran has alienated a lot of students and fans. It seems he made it all about him and his loyalty to his players and vice versa..an insular existence.
Iowa fans adore Fran....The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, d*ckheads...
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Sure, he might stay. But the new coach didn't recruit him. Fran (plus staff) and IJA have a couple years worth of relationship between them. If Fran is booted, I'd expect IJA to hit the portal again just like he did when Larranaga quit.
What? What are you talking about?
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Also, to be clear I'm not saying Fran should stay or go or whatever. I'm discussing the optics of the transfer.
With everything that has been said and debated, it really all comes down to the above. The fans are ready for a change.
Well, the donor has a 50% chance of being right. No donor knows what Beth is doing or thinking, and she certainly isn't going to involve donors or corporations in her decision process. *IMO
Is this all Beth's choice, or is it possible Fran has a say in what he wants to do? 🤔
I would bet Beth has talked to some of basketball's top donors about this decision, or one of her subordinates has. They need to know how making a move will go down with the money class.
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