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alaskanseminole said:
If the money matched or surpassed that of the $EC and/or the B1G, I could tolerate a BIG XII that looked like this:

Division A:​

  1. Florida State (FSU)
  2. Clemson
  3. Miami
  4. Georgia Tech
  5. North Carolina
  6. NC State
  7. Duke
  8. Virginia (UVA)
  9. Virginia Tech
  10. Louisville
  11. Pitt

Division B:​

  1. Notre Dame
  2. Memphis
  3. Oklahoma State
  4. Utah
  5. Colorado
  6. Texas Tech
  7. BYU
  8. Texas Christian (TCU)
  9. Arizona
  10. West Virginia
  11. Kansas
Problem is there aren't many Blue Bloods, so the perception would still be that it's weaker.
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I can't believe that you'd leave Baylor out despite their success in football (recent conference champ and Sugar Bowl win) and both M and W basketball.
 
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The only people I trust are three people I know personally connected to FSU’s inner workings and not some talking heads and they’ve said independent of each other that it was FSU to the BIG long before any lawsuit actually happened. And they continue to reassure me any time I ask that it’s still true. There have been talks with the SEC and Big 12 as well as private equity as an independent as well but that’s just due diligence in case something happens with the real option.
 
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alaskanseminole said:
If the money matched or surpassed that of the $EC and/or the B1G, I could tolerate a BIG XII that looked like this:

Division A:​

  1. Florida State (FSU)
  2. Clemson
  3. Miami
  4. Georgia Tech
  5. North Carolina
  6. NC State
  7. Duke
  8. Virginia (UVA)
  9. Virginia Tech
  10. Louisville
  11. Pitt

Division B:​

  1. Notre Dame
  2. Memphis
  3. Oklahoma State
  4. Utah
  5. Colorado
  6. Texas Tech
  7. Baylor
  8. Texas Christian (TCU)
  9. Arizona
  10. West Virginia
  11. Kansas
Problem is there aren't many Blue Bloods, so the perception would still be that it's weaker.
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So KSU, BYU, Houston, and ISU would vote for a merger which eliminates themselves from the conference?
 
alaskanseminole said:
No clue. Just throwing crap on a wall to see if it sticks.
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Got it, it is just that scenario - especially including ND - is implausible unless the conferences all were dissolved and were created anew. At this point for the Big 10 with it adding the 4 PAC teams, it is so far gone from what I know I would take the addition of ND and FSU and call it good at 20, unless somehow we can get a toehold in Texas with TA$MU.
 
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fsu1jreed said:
The maths already been done...this doesn't even include the last two years

FSU football: TV viewership still top 15 nationally depsite last five years

FSU football remains of the top programs despite the last five years when it comes to TV Ratings. It's why FSU won't be left in the dust with realignment.
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That's not the math though, the question is whether FSU's addition adds enough new eyeballs/tv subscriptions/advertising dollars to the conference to increase the contract share per member. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't - I don't know, but I can infer that the B1G/FOX/CBS/NBC have done the math on it.
 
I take all these articles with a huge grain of salt but this makes a lot more sense to me than FSU and Clemson. AAU membership is a real factor

FSU fans might want to start thinking about tailgates in Ames instead of Iowa City. Never thought the b10 presidents would approve a school that still does that god awful tomahawk chop anyway

Big Ten and Notre Dame want to get into state of Texas in realignment, covet Texas A&M

Longtime college football radio host Greg Swaim reports that both Notre Dame and the Big Ten conference want to get into the state of Texas during the next roun
flywareagle.com
 
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blhawk said:
I take all these articles with a huge grain of salt but this makes a lot more sense to me than FSU and Clemson. AAU membership is a real factor

FSU fans might want to start thinking about tailgates in Ames instead of Iowa City. Never thought the b10 presidents would approve a school that still does that god awful tomahawk chop anyway

Big Ten and Notre Dame want to get into state of Texas in realignment, covet Texas A&M

Longtime college football radio host Greg Swaim reports that both Notre Dame and the Big Ten conference want to get into the state of Texas during the next roun
flywareagle.com
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Tell us about Nebraska's AAU membership.
 
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Hmmmmmm…possible settlement

FSU and Clemson STAYING PUT in the ACC? | FSU Football | ACC Lawsuit | FSU Lawsuit | Clemson Lawsuit

 
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Suggested settlement would keep FSU in the ACC through 2030. FSU would be paid much more, on ratings, and could exit 6 years early. Also no massive exit fee. This would be approximately 3 years longer than if FSU prevails in court.

How the ACC Could Find Enough Money To Keep Florida State and Clemson | Cover 3 College Football

 
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TC Nole OX said:
Suggested settlement would keep FSU in the ACC through 2030. FSU would be paid much more, on ratings, and could exit 6 years early. Also no massive exit fee. This would be approximately 3 years longer than if FSU prevails in court.

How the ACC Could Find Enough Money To Keep Florida State and Clemson | Cover 3 College Football

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Interesting. Might allow for a more soft landing OUT of the ACC to delay, meets the "we need more $ in general now", we don't get a huge penalty and drags feet to see what changes are in play 2030. I think college ball needs a 3rd strong conference for more balance, but the ACC has waited too long to find the right schools. Imagine if 18 months ago the ACC had been able to grab Oregon, Washington, Stanford, USC.
 
TC Nole OX said:
Suggested settlement would keep FSU in the ACC through 2030. FSU would be paid much more, on ratings, and could exit 6 years early. Also no massive exit fee. This would be approximately 3 years longer than if FSU prevails in court.

How the ACC Could Find Enough Money To Keep Florida State and Clemson | Cover 3 College Football

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I don’t know if Bud mentioned this, but the next Big 10 media deal will begin after the 2029-30 season. Oregon and Washington will not receive full shares until then. If FSU wants into the Big 10, this deal with the ACC is the best option for maximizing income.
 
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mnole03 said:
I don’t know if Bud mentioned this, but the next Big 10 media deal will begin after the 2029-30 season. Oregon and Washington will not receive full shares until then. If FSU wants into the Big 10, this deal with the ACC is the best option for maximizing income.
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Towards the end, he mentioned that another round of re-alingment would be taking place in 2030 so this could work out well for FSU
 
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DFSNOLE said:
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TL;DR Summary:

The pending settlement between FSU, Clemson, and the ACC is a significant win for Florida State athletics, addressing longstanding revenue disparities with conferences like the SEC and Big Ten. The new agreement introduces a "brand initiative," allocating 60% of the ACC’s TV revenue based on a five-year rolling average of TV ratings, rather than equal distribution. This change, which better reflects FSU’s strong national brand and football viewership, is expected to add $15 million or more annually to FSU’s revenue.

Additionally, the settlement builds on the 2023 "success initiatives" fund, further boosting FSU's earnings through postseason rewards. It also offers more flexibility regarding exit penalties from the ACC’s Grant of Rights, significantly lowering the cost to leave the conference after 2030. This provides FSU with a clearer path to explore other conference options if necessary.

In the short term, the settlement ensures stability for the ACC, benefiting FSU as a top earner, while other schools may see reduced payouts. Overall, the agreement represents a major step forward for FSU in achieving financial equity and sustaining national competitiveness.
 
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alaskanseminole said:
TL;DR Summary:

The pending settlement between FSU, Clemson, and the ACC is a significant win for Florida State athletics, addressing longstanding revenue disparities with conferences like the SEC and Big Ten. The new agreement introduces a "brand initiative," allocating 60% of the ACC’s TV revenue based on a five-year rolling average of TV ratings, rather than equal distribution. This change, which better reflects FSU’s strong national brand and football viewership, is expected to add $15 million or more annually to FSU’s revenue.

Additionally, the settlement builds on the 2023 "success initiatives" fund, further boosting FSU's earnings through postseason rewards. It also offers more flexibility regarding exit penalties from the ACC’s Grant of Rights, significantly lowering the cost to leave the conference after 2030. This provides FSU with a clearer path to explore other conference options if necessary.

In the short term, the settlement ensures stability for the ACC, benefiting FSU as a top earner, while other schools may see reduced payouts. Overall, the agreement represents a major step forward for FSU in achieving financial equity and sustaining national competitiveness.
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I wonder how long until the top schools in the BIG and SEC push for a similar arrangement? Some of those schools are leaving a lot of money on the table by participating in straight revenue share. I know a lot of Iowa fans will say that will never happen, but if we've learned anything in the last 15 years, its that loyalty is an antiquated concept in college sports.
 
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WhiteSoxClone said:
I wonder how long until the top schools in the BIG and SEC push for a similar arrangement? Some of those schools are leaving a lot of money on the table by participating in straight revenue share. I know a lot of Iowa fans will say that will never happen, but if we've learned anything in the last 15 years, its that loyalty is an antiquated concept in college sports.
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Just look at Oregon State and Washington State. Eventually they'll trim the fat.
 
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