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Gable Stevenson

You are a master troller, no doubt. However, just to be accurate, Iowa 285's have been quite solid under Brands.

2007:Fields-2-2
2008:Fields-5th
2009:Erekson-4th
2010:Erekson-7th
2011:Rasing-1-2
2012:Telford-5th
2013:Telford-1-2(Inj. def.)
2014:Telford-4th
2015:Telford-5th
2016:Stoll-0-2(inj. def.)
2017:Stoll-season ending inj.
2018:Stoll-5th
Sorry, I forgot that a peak of 4th place is now the new 1st in Hawkeye land. I will concede that TNT recruits (14,19,40) have fared better than Cael's (5,22) AA 5,6,7.
 
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From FLO: Since 2002(not including 2017 and 2018)

Is your argument really that Iowa is a bad Heavyweight school when they have been the 3rd best since 2002?
 
If you add Snyder over the last 2 years, tOSU actually leapfrogs to 2nd, dropping Iowa to 4th.

By FLO's metric, here is the top 10(after adding 2017 and 2018):

Minnesota-155
tOSU-126
OkState-121
Iowa-112
Northwestern-93
Michigan-90
PSU-83
Lehigh-65
Oregon State-64
ISU-63
 
If you add Snyder over the last 2 years, tOSU actually leapfrogs to 2nd, dropping Iowa to 4th.

By FLO's metric, here is the top 10(after adding 2017 and 2018):

Minnesota-155
tOSU-126
OkState-121
Iowa-112
Northwestern-93
Michigan-90
PSU-83
Lehigh-65
Oregon State-64
ISU-63
OK Maybe I am stupid, but how are you coming up with the points? Are you adding placement points ?
 
Sorry, this was FLO's metric:

1st-18
2nd-16
3rd-13
4th-12
5th-10
6th-9
7th-6
8th-5
R12-3
R16-2
R24-1
where in Hades do those numbers come from? Champs get 20 points at nationals and average three bonus points for a total of 23. 2nd place gets 16 and also averages 3 bonus points for 19. I could go on, but for an organization with 'wrestling' in their name, you'd think they'd try harder than some random guy on the internet to get the numbers right.
 
where in Hades do those numbers come from? Champs get 20 points at nationals and average three bonus points for a total of 23. 2nd place gets 16 and also averages 3 bonus points for 19. I could go on, but for an organization with 'wrestling' in their name, you'd think they'd try harder than some random guy on the internet to get the numbers right.

Well if Spey is going to contribute to an article, it would be nice of him to be more precise and professional. Putting out numbers that aren't accurate (giving 18 points for 1st when they get 20 before bonus) makes everything else suspect.

Don't shoot the messenger. He explained why he used the numbers a while back. I simply didn't feel like trying to find his explanation.
 
Post for long enough and you will have a few misconceptions. Feel free to start a poll asking everyone here whether or not they believe I am a troll and whether or not you are. I would be willing to bet you substantial monies that you would win that by a landslide......
I personally think you're a troll and a complete fn loser.
 
I really don't see the need for a redshirt. Steveson comes right in, and enters the season winning. He is the REAL deal. I think one of the top 2 spots on that podium in March in the Burgh has his name on it.
 
Post for long enough and you will have a few misconceptions. Feel free to start a poll asking everyone here whether or not they believe I am a troll and whether or not you are. I would be willing to bet you substantial monies that you would win that by a landslide......
You are a troll, right?
 
Well, this thread turned into a real beauty... Anyway, Gable is only 17 not 18 as I previously mentioned.
 
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