Garza vs Iowa St
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Roughly 4 times as many as he has in his career vs ISU
He could score 8 points as long as we get contributions from others. This will come down to guard play.
Conduitt will block a few shots, but If there is one player that will not bother, it is Luka, he will just keep going at him.
Probably not a popular opinion but relying on your big man to carry your team is a losing formula in today’s college basketball landscape. Iowa absolutely must shoot the 3 ball at a higher frequency if they want a shot at the tourney this year.
This is not true IMO. Iowa does not over-utilize 2 points shots vs 3 point shots, they have a solid mixture. Only thing Iowa has to do to have a shot at the tourney is move their defensive efficiency from 125th or so nationally down to 75th. Simply hoping to outscore teams every night with a high powered offense is a struggle.
You scored over 90 on Michigan. That should have been enough for a win.
I agree to a point. I know this - Joe Wieskamp needs to get out of his funk, and play well, for Iowa to have a chance in most Power 5 games moving forward.
Iowa nearly made the sweet 16 last year doing the exact opposite of what you said.
this. Conditt will block a few and get totally outplayed, clowns will claim he dominated and Garza sucks. Book it
Not to say Garza won't out play him it would just really be the 1st time this season it would have happened. How will Garza's defense be against Conditt is another factor.
Conditt does not have much of an offensive game so Garza will be fine. Yes I know he had a career high last night.
Their 3PA/FGA was right smack dab in the middle of D1 last year (166th), their point distribution of 3pt (what % of their pts came off 3s) was 31.2 %...193rd in the country. Meaning they were average to slightly below average at utilizing the 3pt shot (shot it well, needed to take more of them). And they shot a horrid % on 2pt shots.
What they were really freaking good at was getting to the line and shooting a high % at the line.
Defensively, they gave up a ton of 3pt attempts, but gave up a pretty low shooting % on 3s (suggesting good close outs). But man, their defense of the lane was putrid. Other teams shot a stupidly high % on 2s, and scored over half their points on 2pt attempts against them...that's bad, really bad.
I don't think it is about one on one defense but more about keeping up with him running the floor and when he dives to the basket for lobs on PnR situations. But yeah one on one in the post I wouldn't be worried.
I agree with this to a point. You have to get a skilled player like Garza touches, however, I can see this team forcing him the ball and then stand around watching, making it a stagnant offense.
Luka is a great asset. But in order to outscore the opponent Iowa has to be good both inside and out. Make teams double/triple Luka to create open looks from 3 other guys, makes teams pay if they don't pay attention to Garza. The pieces are there to put up a bunch of points and overcome the deficiencies this team has, even if JBo is out. Its just going to take more than throwing it inside to Garza and letting him go to work to put up big team point totals.
It will interesting to see the inherent home court advantage (12th in D1, slightly ahead of Carver) on calls and conditts defensive ability vs Lukas patience and advanced post moves.
Points are points. It doesn't matter if they come 1 2 or 3 at a time, when you accumulate 91 how you do it doesn't matter.
Iowa can hit plenty of 3s if opponents choose to double the post.
Scoring points isn't going to matter if they play defense like they did against Michigan.
You cant make other teams double you.
If they're willing to let one guy score that many then that's that. Nothing you can do but beat up that match up.
Juan Howard's plan was pretty interesting. Definitely an nba mentality vs typical college thought. Iowa goes in expecting doubles, doesn't get it. Garza scores a ridiculous amount of the time but wears himself out and plays basically token defense on the other end. Howard let one guy get his and took away every one else. Smart.
In retrospect Iowa needed to spell Garza more with Kriener to improve defense both when hes on and off the court.
I hope that game puts things in perspective for Luka and Fran when they watch the tape. You have to play both ends of the floor even if it means less minutes over all and less points.
Scoring without stops doesn't win.
A truism that will never change: the best basketball play is getting the ball to the biggest guy on the floor as close to the basketball as possible.
The exact opposite? Iowa is currently 134th in defensive efficiency. Last year they finished 111th. Iowa has yet to play much of the meat of their schedule and already trailing last year's defense. Is being 12 spots higher on offense enough to offset that and have similar results? Maybe it is, but as I said, it is rough to rely on only offense every night which is why teams with a defensive efficiency over 100 are not often NCAA At Large recipients.
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I don’t necessarily agree with the defensive approach but you can’t convince me that someone could get this group of talent much higher rated overall than Fran has. He obviously values offense over defense based on the capabilities of this group of kids I and he will ride that out. Ultimately you need better players (or a healthy roster) or better coaching to move the entire product to another level.
I am certainly not saying Fran is not maximizing the talent he has. I am just saying I believe the defense needs to improve for this team to have the best shot of making the NCAA tournament. Hawks are giving up a ton of open looks from three tonight, but much like ISU last night vs Seton Hall, Minnesota is not making those open shots. Iowa is defending the post well tonight and their offense is on point as usual
again my point was that iowa had a similarly rated D last year and was a basket away from the sweet 16. Frans offensive stuff is consistently great to elite, but it also demands a ton of energy so defense suffers.
Juan Howard's plan reminds me of Ralph Miller's plan when Iowa played Purdue and the great Rick Mount. Every one else double teamed Rick Mount who still scored his 36 to 40 points a game except Iowa who let Freddy Brown play him one on one. Iowa won the game anyway even with Mount scoring over 60 points in that game. Afterwards, Ralph Miller said that what counted was Iowa's shooting percentage being better than Purdue's which led to Iowa's victory.
With the 3 point play today you wouldn't be able to let Mount score as he did back then. With the 3 point play he would have scored over 74 points that game. Garza however, is scoring 2 point baskets and his 44 points all came from 2 point shots and the free throw line. Michigan shot 55% from the 2 and also shot over 40% from the 3. Garza made 53% from the 2 and Iowa shot poorly from the 3.
I'm more inclined to think it will come down to the refs. and foul trouble.
He'll have at least 16 / 10 if he's not on the bench most of the night....
I heard from Ames, they plan on a rough game to try and get him in foul trouble..
A lot of good points in this thread....well done and respectful discussion.
My guess is that there are some generalities that apply (in terms of what the problem is with defense-what needs to be done for this team to win at a higher level). But just like taking the uniqueness of a game like at Michigan, generalities nor specifics apply 100% of the time. The other part that makes this confusing and subjective is that sometimes what we see with our eyes is more accurate than what analytics tell us......and sometimes not.
People can watch that Minnesota game and say/think, Minnesota is not good. My eyes tell me otherwise. I think they are athletic, play a physical and strong defense with quickness on the perimeter and shot blocking and rebounding on the front line....yet if you look at Minnesota's won/loss record it might tell you otherwise. They were leading or one of the leading teams in the B10 in three point shooting coming into the game and ended up shooting 25% from 3....against a team who's defensive rating is not good.
So, all that said my best guess at this point is that Iowa's defense is inconsistent. The Hawks are capable of playing adequate defense but don't always do it. SOME of that is based on the opposition's shooting (are they hot?) in a particular game, the match ups, coaching, home court, etc.
Post DePaul where we got shot out of the gym right from the start....we came back and were playing better defense.....we go into Michigan and give up over 100 points and then come back and play decent defense against Minnesota.
So, bottom line it comes back to some basics. When health allows and the coaches can work the players in practice, combined with a good game plan, the defense can be adequate. When the coaches/players can't develop continuity because of lack of ability to practice as a group....the results are bad and they get multiplied when you play a team like Michigan.....a top 5 rated team in the country on their home floor.
My guess is that there are some generalities that apply (in terms of what the problem is with defense-what needs to be done for this team to win at a higher level). But just like taking the uniqueness of a game like at Michigan, generalities nor specifics apply 100% of the time. The other part that makes this confusing and subjective is that sometimes what we see with our eyes is more accurate than what analytics tell us......and sometimes not.
People can watch that Minnesota game and say/think, Minnesota is not good. My eyes tell me otherwise. I think they are athletic, play a physical and strong defense with quickness on the perimeter and shot blocking and rebounding on the front line....yet if you look at Minnesota's won/loss record it might tell you otherwise. They were leading or one of the leading teams in the B10 in three point shooting coming into the game and ended up shooting 25% from 3....against a team who's defensive rating is not good.
So, all that said my best guess at this point is that Iowa's defense is inconsistent. The Hawks are capable of playing adequate defense but don't always do it. SOME of that is based on the opposition's shooting (are they hot?) in a particular game, the match ups, coaching, home court, etc.
Post DePaul where we got shot out of the gym right from the start....we came back and were playing better defense.....we go into Michigan and give up over 100 points and then come back and play decent defense against Minnesota.
So, bottom line it comes back to some basics. When health allows and the coaches can work the players in practice, combined with a good game plan, the defense can be adequate. When the coaches/players can't develop continuity because of lack of ability to practice as a group....the results are bad and they get multiplied when you play a team like Michigan.....a top 5 rated team in the country on their home floor.
A lot of clone fans commenting that Garza gets away with travels constantly, I don't see it.
Also, they say he chicken wings or hooks often too down low when going to the basket. He does this a bit but gets called for it more than he doesnt, IMO.
It will be interesting to see how they match up with us defensively assuming they play man to man out of the gate. Either Young or Jacobson, whoever isn't on Garza, is going to have to guard one of Bohannon, Connor, Wieskamp or Fredrick.
My guess would be:
Young----Garza
Jacobson---Connor
Haliburton----Wieskamp
Bolton----Bohannon
Nixon----Fredrick
Also, they say he chicken wings or hooks often too down low when going to the basket. He does this a bit but gets called for it more than he doesnt, IMO.
It will be interesting to see how they match up with us defensively assuming they play man to man out of the gate. Either Young or Jacobson, whoever isn't on Garza, is going to have to guard one of Bohannon, Connor, Wieskamp or Fredrick.
My guess would be:
Young----Garza
Jacobson---Connor
Haliburton----Wieskamp
Bolton----Bohannon
Nixon----Fredrick
Pemsl is very invested in this team, and with this always being a very emotional match up, I'm going to predict that we finally get a breakout game from Cordell on Thursday...
Booooooooo Boooooooooo
Just getting my ears ready.
Just getting my ears ready.
So will Jacobsen take swings again and Prohm grab Iowa players like last year?
Or will isu students threaten violence against the Iowa team bus like they do for KU?
This is a new one, Clown fans blaming the refs for games Iowa wins against teams other than isu.
But they don’t obsess over big bro because they say so.
