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Iafootballfan said:
I highly doubt ISU will use their best defender on CJ; he has been assigned to the best player every game despite height difference.
Young will either bang with Garza or ISU plays Conditt to try to take advantage of Garza in the pick and roll. They will likely need both due to foul trouble.
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Based on the metrics, ISU's best perimeter defender is Haliburton and I think he matches up better with Wieskamp.

With what you are saying, Nixon would guard Garza. He is our best offensive player and Nixon should be on him despite the height difference.
 
Call me rocket said:
Five years in football, last years win and tussle at carver, it could get ugly in lames for sure. You know their admin won’t do anything to prevent it either. Pisses me off to think about having to deal with them
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Yeah, I am expecting an ugly crowd in Hilton tomorrow night.
 
HerkyFan said:
Will Prohm grab Iowa players and Jacobsen take swings like the isu punks they are?

How about clown fans in general they already attacked the Iowa Marching Band what will your classless thugs do to our basketball teams?

Threaten violence on our team busses like you have in the past?

But do tell us how awesome isu is. Or must we ignore all that?

Reality and clown fans’ view of it rarely are one in the same.
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Show me where Jacobson throws anything but a few small shoves. I can pin point the moment when big bad Pemsl pulls a b***h move and goes after someone walking away. Cuz you know he is tough and all.
 
As fans I think we like to look at players vs player matchups, and that works in some matchups, but with Iowa the way we win this game, is to not make it about matchups I think. Man to man, one in one, we don’t fare well with a lot of teAms because we just aren’t as athletic as most teams. So instead of matching up man on man, player vs player, make it about team factors. Shooting, passing, moving the ball, transition, etc. we play Into their hands to make it one on one and player vs player. Wrong analysis for me
 
Call me rocket said:
Five years in football, last years win and tussle at carver, it could get ugly in lames for sure. You know their admin won’t do anything to prevent it either. Pisses me off to think about having to deal with them
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Kind of how like JTS Security tried to have the band go out of the stadium where there was no fans but the band director got into a verbal altercation with Security and went another way through a crowd of around 6k people all trying to leave the stadium.
 
Call me rocket said:
As fans I think we like to look at players vs player matchups, and that works in some matchups, but with Iowa the way we win this game, is to not make it about matchups I think. Man to man, one in one, we don’t fare well with a lot of teAms because we just aren’t as athletic as most teams. So instead of matching up man on man, player vs player, make it about team factors. Shooting, passing, moving the ball, transition, etc. we play Into their hands to make it one on one and player vs player. Wrong analysis for me
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Iowa may not be great athletically but their size and length this season worry me.
 
Connor and Jacobson were close, Jacobson pushed Connor. Pemsl came to rescue. Who knows who was ultimately at fault but I don’t remember Connor pushing Jacobson so initially I’d say doucher Jacobson started it. But regardless of all that, your godd damn lip licking coach should never have put his hands on our players. Say anything you want, that is bull shiiit.
 
Hayes_30 said:
Kind of how like JTS Security tried to have the band go out of the stadium where there was no fans but the band director got into a verbal altercation with Security and went another way through a crowd of around 6k people all trying to leave the stadium.
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oh you mean where your piece of shiit band director was screaming at our band to get the fuk of the field and our band just trying to do what they were being told accidentally went the wrong way and then was converged on by 6,000 cowboy boot, carfart wearing sod heads. ? That you mean? Gtfo of here. Go beat up a band member.
 
Call me rocket said:
And just because the band goes the wrong way doesn’t justify them being assaulted.


“Well, I know she was raped, and that’s not right, but she was wearing a short skirt.”

Good god. clown logic.
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F*** you for even comparing rape to the band drama you dbag. That is a horrible comparison for anyone's logic behind anything Cy-Hawk related.
 
Hayes_30 said:
F*** you for even comparing rape to the band drama you dbag. That is a horrible comparison for anyone's logic behind anything Cy-Hawk related.
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If you cannot stick to talking about the game why even come here?
 
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Call me rocket said:
Connor and Jacobson were close, Jacobson pushed Connor. Pemsl came to rescue. Who knows who was ultimately at fault but I don’t remember Connor pushing Jacobson so initially I’d say doucher Jacobson started it. But regardless of all that, your godd damn lip licking coach should never have put his hands on our players. Say anything you want, that is bull shiiit.
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Yeah it was all Jacobson. I remeber it a little different. I mean watch the video and see if you remember it the same.
 
Your fans literally sexually assaulted our band per the charges. Yeah, it was probably some d bag sod head that grabbed one of their butts or something, but it was a sexual assault charge/allegation. Whatever the case, your argument is that our band went the wrong way and that simple mistake justifies whatever your boorish fans decided to do to them, assault, sexual assault whatever. Same logic for blaming a victim of any other assault against them.
 
Hayes_30 said:
Yeah it was all Jacobson. I remeber it a little different. I mean watch the video and see if you remember it the same.
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I said it could have been both. I said The first push came from a doucher clown and your coach should have never put his hands on our players. Don’t put words in my mouth or I’ll put my cack in yours.
 
Hayes_30 said:
Yeah it was all Jacobson. I remeber it a little different. I mean watch the video and see if you remember it the same.
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3:55 of the video.

McCaffery and Jacobson are both equal to blame on that tussle starting. No reason for Pemsl to get involved at the end.

Very end of the video.

Shayok and Jacobson are to blame for the scuffle at the end. Conditt also feels the need to run out there like he is going to do something. You are down 14, take the loss and go home. Then Prohm loses his mind and starts grabbing only Iowa players for some reason.
 
Call me rocket said:
I said it could have been both. I said The first push came from a doucher clown and your coach should have never put his hands on our players. Don’t put words in my mouth or I’ll put my cack in yours.
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The 1st small pushed were between C-Mac and Jacobson with some small arm slapping. All I know is it got escalated into something bigger when both C-Mac and Jacobson were walking away from one another when Pemsl shoved Jacobson from behind. You guys got the win in basketball and I'm tired of talking about the band stuff from September. I'm sorry I went off the rails a bit and apologize. I do think the game tomorrow is going to be a good one, I do also think Iowa has the slightly better team from what I have seen this season. Garza is playing like a potential B1G Player of the Year. Obviously I would love to see ISU beat the Hawks by double digits but I'm not sure that happens this year even if ISU does win. Both teams will bring it.
 
TCOOL said:
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3:55 of the video.

McCaffery and Jacobson are both equal to blame on that tussle starting. No reason for Pemsl to get involved at the end.

Very end of the video.

Shayok and Jacobson are to blame for the scuffle at the end. Conditt also feels the need to run out there like he is going to do something. You are down 14, take the loss and go home. Then Prohm loses his mind and starts grabbing only Iowa players for some reason.
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The stuff at the end was bs on Jacobson and Shayok I agree 100%. They got punked and didn't like it. It actually pissed me off because they were showing more fight in the last 15 seconds than they did all game.
 
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Hayes_30 said:
Show me where Jacobson throws anything but a few small shoves. I can pin point the moment when big bad Pemsl pulls a b***h move and goes after someone walking away. Cuz you know he is tough and all.
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Clown fans are so tough they assault the Iowa Marching band and threaten the KU team bus. Best for clown fans to avoid anything that shows the world what isu “class” is all about.

Raise your hand if you saw this coming, I say clown fans will ignore and clown fan does just that .

So what will your douchy university, fans, coaches, players and ad do tonight and tomorrow night? We know you just can’t help it .
 
HerkyFan said:
Clown fans are so tough they assault the Iowa Marching band and threaten the KU team bus. Best for clown fans to avoid anything that shows the world what isu “class” is all about.

Raise your hand if you saw this coming, I say clown fans will ignore and clown fan does just that .

So what will your douchy university, fans, coaches, players and ad do tonight and tomorrow night? We know you just can’t help it .
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I'm not gonna argue about the band stuff anymore, also FKU. Others on here agree that Pemsl escalated the 1st scuffle last season and didn't need to, I put all the blame on Shayok, and Jacobson for the 2nd scuffle. The game tomorrow will be a good game and the teams will go at it no question about that. If you want to talk about how the teams compare, how Haliburton, and Garza are both studs be my guest. But I'm done arguing about the band stuff.
 
Call me rocket said:
And just because the band goes the wrong way doesn’t justify them being assaulted.


“Well, I know she was raped, and that’s not right, but she was wearing a short skirt.”

Good god. clown logic.
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Yep the Iowa marching band should have known better than to have gone to Ames to begin with. They should have known isu fans can’t help but assaulting them. I mean it wouldn’t have happened if they weren’t there in the cesspool known as isu.

Hayes will tell you so. Just ask.
 
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Hayes_30 said:
I'm not gonna argue about the band stuff anymore, also FKU. Others on here agree that Pemsl escalated the 1st scuffle last season and didn't need to, I put all the blame on Shayok, and Jacobson for the 2nd scuffle. The game tomorrow will be a good game and the teams will go at it no question about that. If you want to talk about how the teams compare, how Haliburton, and Garza are both studs be my guest. But I'm done arguing about the band stuff.
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Clown fan does as all clown fans have before them. Refuse to acknowledge all the d-bag incidents that show what isu is all about.

Why do clown fans do this? It is the same tribalism and groupthink that allows the isu culture to be what it is.
 
HerkyFan said:
Yep the Iowa marching band should have known etter than to have gone to Ames to begin with. They should have known isu fans can’t help but assaulting them. I mean it wouldn’t have happened if they weren’t there in the cesspool known as isu.

Hayes will tell you so. Just ask.
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Bro what part of I'm done talking about it didn't you get. It's basketball now not football.
 
Hayes_30 said:
Bro what part of I'm done talking about it didn't you get. It's basketball now not football.
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To be fair, nobody was even talking about the band today until you brought this up:


Hayes_30 said:
Kind of how like JTS Security tried to have the band go out of the stadium where there was no fans but the band director got into a verbal altercation with Security and went another way through a crowd of around 6k people all trying to leave the stadium.
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Bro what part of I'm done talking about it didn't you get. It's basketball now not football.
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Clown fans never want to talk about how classless their university, fans, coaches, players or AD is. Just how you all roll.
 
TCOOL said:
To be fair, nobody was even talking about the band today until you brought this up:
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Yes I did and I realized it wasn't going to go anywhere. I apologized for going off the rails and tried to squash that conversation. I would like to discuss the basketball game tomorrow. Not the fans, the KU bus, the band, or any of that stuff. Is everyone cool with that?
 
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TCOOL said:
Whats your prediction?

Also, hard to take you for not being a troll with the crap you spew on CF.

https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/the-best-of-mad-fran.253445/
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I like making fun of Fran no harm in that. I don't want to predict a score because even tho Iowa has won 2 of the last 3 this is the 1st time in 10 years I think Iowa has the better team. I'm not sure if it was Garza's 40 point outburst against Michigan but sometime in the last week Iowa started to really worry me. They are a damn good team
 
yeah i understand the rivalry and all and its fun to some point, but hopefully it is just a hard fought game, without fights, some mutual respect.. I know people get energized and emotional but no need for the physical confrontation crap.. Although I love Haliburtons play, i do hate the 'long-distance call' thing he does after a 3 but those sort of things are minor and if people like them what the heck, but no need for physical stuff, just can get really out of hand in such a charged environment. Now back to the game, no doubt Garza has a superior offensive game compared to any of our bigs, but all 3 or ours have some quality aspects to their game. But dang the Hawks have a serious drop off when Garza has to come out and Kriener or particularly Pemsl come in. I was really surprised by how bad Pemsl has looked, I mean I get the injuries and all but still he just looks bad. Of course last year at Carver he overcame his injuries just to play ISU, looked so good agains ISU then took the medical red-shirt didn't he? I really expected him to look good this year, but so far not so much. Of course he will probably drop into a phone booth and change into his superman cape for the ISU game again.
 
TCOOL said:
Based on the metrics, ISU's best perimeter defender is Haliburton and I think he matches up better with Wieskamp.

With what you are saying, Nixon would guard Garza. He is our best offensive player and Nixon should be on him despite the height difference.
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I think Nixon is far and away ISU's best perimeter defender.
 
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bozotheclown said:
yeah i understand the rivalry and all and its fun to some point, but hopefully it is just a hard fought game, without fights, some mutual respect.. I know people get energized and emotional but no need for the physical confrontation crap.. Although I love Haliburtons play, i do hate the 'long-distance call' thing he does after a 3 but those sort of things are minor and if people like them what the heck, but no need for physical stuff, just can get really out of hand in such a charged environment. Now back to the game, no doubt Garza has a superior offensive game compared to any of our bigs, but all 3 or ours have some quality aspects to their game. But dang the Hawks have a serious drop off when Garza has to come out and Kriener or particularly Pemsl come in. I was really surprised by how bad Pemsl has looked, I mean I get the injuries and all but still he just looks bad. Of course last year at Carver he overcame his injuries just to play ISU, looked so good agains ISU then took the medical red-shirt didn't he? I really expected him to look good this year, but so far not so much. Of course he will probably drop into a phone booth and change into his superman cape for the ISU game again.
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The drop off between Garza and Kriener isn’t as bad as if Fran does the line change and also puts in Pemsl, Evelyn and Tousant to go with Connor. That line up has no one who can score.
 
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Hayes_30 said:
I like making fun of Fran no harm in that. I don't want to predict a score because even tho Iowa has won 2 of the last 3 this is the 1st time in 10 years I think Iowa has the better team. I'm not sure if it was Garza's 40 point outburst against Michigan but sometime in the last week Iowa started to really worry me. They are a damn good team
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Let me know when Fran ever grabs a player from the opposing team.

All you ever hear from former Iowa players is how much they enjoyed playing for him. You're even over there repeating the rumor that Margaret doused someone with a cup of water in press row earlier this year. That rumor started on CF, not here.

https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/tough-day-for-eiu-hoops-hopes.247955/page-223#post-6896223
 
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Only watched their 2nd Seton Hall game.

Problem with Iowa St is they’re easier to guard than they should be. Complete opposite of Michigan where they had Iowa in a bind the entire game and could’ve scored 150 if they needed to with any player they put out there.

It’s particularly noticeable with their starters. Either their spacing or personnel was hampering the shots they could get which is why they did nothing for a dozen minutes. It’s a major problem vs Iowa. Every team that has beat Iowa has gotten points early against our starters.

If ISU wins, it’ll come down to their players simply being better. With guys like Halliburton, that is certainly not out of the question. I’m not sure how talented the rest of their roster is so I don’t really know what to expect.
 
Hayes_30 said:
Show me where Jacobson throws anything but a few small shoves. I can pin point the moment when big bad Pemsl pulls a b***h move and goes after someone walking away. Cuz you know he is tough and all.
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Bitch moves, coming from you means a lot.
 
TCOOL said:
Based on what?
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He is. They always put him on the best guard from the other team. Watching the Seton Hall game he did a great job on Powell. Strong and great feet on defense and gets himself in great position. You can't just look at metrics in determining who is a good defender because a ton is based on stats like blocks, steals, and defensive rebounds but that doesn't tell the whole story.
 
TCOOL said:
Let me know when Fran ever grabs a player from the opposing team.

All you ever hear from former Iowa players is how much they enjoyed playing for him. You're even over there repeating the rumor that Margaret doused someone with a cup of water in press row earlier this year. That rumor started on CF, not here.

https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/tough-day-for-eiu-hoops-hopes.247955/page-223#post-6896223
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I think Fran's problem is that he doesn't do enough talking to the officials all game long. He sits and stirs, then explodes when things pile up. I don't like it. However, if you watch other coaches (Izzo, Turgeon, Painter, Self, etc) they are constantly in the officials ear. Just talking, trying to win them over. Fran doesn't seem to do that.
 
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I think Fran's problem is that he doesn't do enough talking to the officials all game long. He sits and stirs, then explodes when things pile up. I don't like it. However, if you watch other coaches (Izzo, Turgeon, Painter, Self, etc) they are constantly in the officials ear. Just talking, trying to win them over. Fran doesn't seem to do that.
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Agree.
 
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