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Here are three specific things Biden has done that have led to increased gas prices.

1. Canceling drilling leases and limiting domestic production


Since taking office, Biden has taken too many steps to count to limit domestic production. These include halting federal permits for oil and gas drilling and leasing shortly after taking office and blocking drilling in a major oil-rich Alaskan region.

To be clear, these decisions will mostly affect future production. But that does still significantly affect gas prices because companies factor in their expectations about the future into the decisions they make today.

“Some say that new leases … would have taken time and would not yet be online, but even so, there is evidence that expectations of increased future supply has a beneficial impact on current prices and expectations of future supply drying up has a negative impact on current prices,” the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Ben Lieberman said.

“At a day-to-day level, I am hearing from drillers that they are having a very hard time getting all the approvals they need from [the Environmental Protection Agency] and other agencies in order to produce on existing wells, and of course, new federal leasing has come to a halt,” Lieberman added.

It’s just basic economics that when the government throttles future supply in an industry, that will lead to higher prices both now and in the future. Biden was warned by many critics at the time that this would happen, but he proceeded anyway.

2. Choking regulations that impose big costs and lead to higher prices

Speaking of basic economics, it’s well established that when businesses’ costs rise, that puts upward pressure on the prices they charge consumers. The oil and gas industry is no exception.

And unfortunately, the Biden administration has both proposed and implemented a wide array of regulations on the energy sector, inflicting billions in direct financial costs and incalculable indirect compliance costs — plus further harming expectations for the future.

“The regulatory chokehold imposed by the Biden administration on oil production in place of a Green New Deal has drastically raised gasoline prices, thereby hurting lower-income people the most,” said conservative economist Vance Ginn, who served in the Trump administration.

“This is yet another example of the high cost of big-government environmentalism when the better approach is to remove government barriers so that free markets can better let people adapt to changes in the environment at a much lower cost,” Ginn concluded.

3. Anti-energy rhetoric that discourages investment

Rhetoric matters. While words don’t literally do anything to change gas prices, the signals coming from policymakers absolutely do affect the long-term investment decisions businesses make.

And even as a presidential candidate, Biden sent very negative messages about what his leadership would mean for the gas industry.

In just one example, as Americans for Tax Reform pointed out, Biden said during a campaign stop: “We are going to get rid of fossil fuels. … We’re going to phase out fossil fuels.” Then, upon taking office, the president followed these words with actions such as canceling the Keystone XL pipeline, blocking leases, restricting imports, and pursuing regulations.

In general, Biden’s open hostility toward the oil and gas industry has almost certainly curbed investment into production that otherwise would’ve occurred.

“Such extinction rhetoric, coming from the now-president, has an unprecedented chilling effect on investment,” Lieberman said. To put it simply, less investment means less supply — which means higher prices.

It’s absolutely true that our high gas prices aren’t entirely Biden’s fault. But the president is not the helpless bystander his defenders would have you believe.
 
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Them: The President has nothing to do with gas prices

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Also Them: That's a Biden Win
Considering the fact that the gas prices were going to be used to hammer Biden and Democrats at the polls, the prices coming down are a win whether they did it or not. People don't vote based on the facts of how economics work, they just vote based on how they feel at the moment.
 
People don't vote based on the facts of how economics work, they just vote based on how they feel at the moment.
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Hence why social issues are the best tool for steering your base to the voting booth. Politicians aren't dummies.
 
Here are three specific things Biden has done that have led to increased gas prices.

1. Canceling drilling leases and limiting domestic production


Since taking office, Biden has taken too many steps to count to limit domestic production. These include halting federal permits for oil and gas drilling and leasing shortly after taking office and blocking drilling in a major oil-rich Alaskan region.

To be clear, these decisions will mostly affect future production. But that does still significantly affect gas prices because companies factor in their expectations about the future into the decisions they make today.

“Some say that new leases … would have taken time and would not yet be online, but even so, there is evidence that expectations of increased future supply has a beneficial impact on current prices and expectations of future supply drying up has a negative impact on current prices,” the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Ben Lieberman said.

“At a day-to-day level, I am hearing from drillers that they are having a very hard time getting all the approvals they need from [the Environmental Protection Agency] and other agencies in order to produce on existing wells, and of course, new federal leasing has come to a halt,” Lieberman added.

It’s just basic economics that when the government throttles future supply in an industry, that will lead to higher prices both now and in the future. Biden was warned by many critics at the time that this would happen, but he proceeded anyway.

2. Choking regulations that impose big costs and lead to higher prices

Speaking of basic economics, it’s well established that when businesses’ costs rise, that puts upward pressure on the prices they charge consumers. The oil and gas industry is no exception.

And unfortunately, the Biden administration has both proposed and implemented a wide array of regulations on the energy sector, inflicting billions in direct financial costs and incalculable indirect compliance costs — plus further harming expectations for the future.

“The regulatory chokehold imposed by the Biden administration on oil production in place of a Green New Deal has drastically raised gasoline prices, thereby hurting lower-income people the most,” said conservative economist Vance Ginn, who served in the Trump administration.

“This is yet another example of the high cost of big-government environmentalism when the better approach is to remove government barriers so that free markets can better let people adapt to changes in the environment at a much lower cost,” Ginn concluded.

3. Anti-energy rhetoric that discourages investment

Rhetoric matters. While words don’t literally do anything to change gas prices, the signals coming from policymakers absolutely do affect the long-term investment decisions businesses make.

And even as a presidential candidate, Biden sent very negative messages about what his leadership would mean for the gas industry.

In just one example, as Americans for Tax Reform pointed out, Biden said during a campaign stop: “We are going to get rid of fossil fuels. … We’re going to phase out fossil fuels.” Then, upon taking office, the president followed these words with actions such as canceling the Keystone XL pipeline, blocking leases, restricting imports, and pursuing regulations.

In general, Biden’s open hostility toward the oil and gas industry has almost certainly curbed investment into production that otherwise would’ve occurred.

“Such extinction rhetoric, coming from the now-president, has an unprecedented chilling effect on investment,” Lieberman said. To put it simply, less investment means less supply — which means higher prices.

It’s absolutely true that our high gas prices aren’t entirely Biden’s fault. But the president is not the helpless bystander his defenders would have you believe.


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Them: Gas prices are high because of Biden. Told ya so! Get used to the new norm! Thanks Brandon!!

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Also Them: Hmmm... but Inflation! Hunter's laptop! Groomers!
 
Also, what the hell is a "normal" gas price. If there's anything less stable than the price of gas I'd like to know what it is. I have no idea how to identify a "normal" price for gas.
This. 100% this.

It amazes me how many people expect gas to be a certain price. Here is an article from June 2008 when gas prices first hit $4 in the US. Keep in mind this was during the midst of the largest recession in our lifetimes when the unemployment rate was MUCH higher than today. Oh, and there's this. The median income in 2022 is nearly double that of 2008.

I said this before but it bears repeating. If you were to go back in time 14 years and tell those folks in June 2008 that gas prices 14 years later would be the same, I bet everyone of them would have taken it.
 
OMG. They are MOCKING Republicans you dipshit.

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Rs: Biden is increasing gas prices!!!

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Rs: The President has nothing to do with gas prices
OMG. You don't think that torch will be carried you dipshit?

The primaries are coming and gas prices need to come down at all costs because people are stupid and as @kc78 said people vote based on emotion. The average American has zero clue as to why gas prices go up or down. Politicians will cherry pick the positives, push the narrative to drive people to the voting booths. Twitter and Social Media snippets are just making it more prolific than ever to control people via emotional puppet strings. Hell, Trump tried to steer his masses from 2am toilet tweets to great effectiveness.
 
OMG. You don't think that torch will be carried you dipshit?

The primaries are coming and gas prices need to come down at all costs because people are stupid and as @kc78 said people vote based on emotion. The average American has zero clue as to why gas prices go up or down. Politicians will cherry pick the positives, push the narrative to drive people to the voting booths. Twitter and Social Media snippets are just making it more prolific than ever to control people via emotional puppet strings. Hell, Trump tried to steer his masses from 2am toilet tweets to great effectiveness.
Well, no shit. That wasn't my point.
 
Here are three specific things Biden has done that have led to increased gas prices.

1. Canceling drilling leases and limiting domestic production


Since taking office, Biden has taken too many steps to count to limit domestic production. These include halting federal permits for oil and gas drilling and leasing shortly after taking office and blocking drilling in a major oil-rich Alaskan region.

To be clear, these decisions will mostly affect future production. But that does still significantly affect gas prices because companies factor in their expectations about the future into the decisions they make today.

“Some say that new leases … would have taken time and would not yet be online, but even so, there is evidence that expectations of increased future supply has a beneficial impact on current prices and expectations of future supply drying up has a negative impact on current prices,” the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Ben Lieberman said.

“At a day-to-day level, I am hearing from drillers that they are having a very hard time getting all the approvals they need from [the Environmental Protection Agency] and other agencies in order to produce on existing wells, and of course, new federal leasing has come to a halt,” Lieberman added.

It’s just basic economics that when the government throttles future supply in an industry, that will lead to higher prices both now and in the future. Biden was warned by many critics at the time that this would happen, but he proceeded anyway.

2. Choking regulations that impose big costs and lead to higher prices

Speaking of basic economics, it’s well established that when businesses’ costs rise, that puts upward pressure on the prices they charge consumers. The oil and gas industry is no exception.

And unfortunately, the Biden administration has both proposed and implemented a wide array of regulations on the energy sector, inflicting billions in direct financial costs and incalculable indirect compliance costs — plus further harming expectations for the future.

“The regulatory chokehold imposed by the Biden administration on oil production in place of a Green New Deal has drastically raised gasoline prices, thereby hurting lower-income people the most,” said conservative economist Vance Ginn, who served in the Trump administration.

“This is yet another example of the high cost of big-government environmentalism when the better approach is to remove government barriers so that free markets can better let people adapt to changes in the environment at a much lower cost,” Ginn concluded.

3. Anti-energy rhetoric that discourages investment

Rhetoric matters. While words don’t literally do anything to change gas prices, the signals coming from policymakers absolutely do affect the long-term investment decisions businesses make.

And even as a presidential candidate, Biden sent very negative messages about what his leadership would mean for the gas industry.

In just one example, as Americans for Tax Reform pointed out, Biden said during a campaign stop: “We are going to get rid of fossil fuels. … We’re going to phase out fossil fuels.” Then, upon taking office, the president followed these words with actions such as canceling the Keystone XL pipeline, blocking leases, restricting imports, and pursuing regulations.

In general, Biden’s open hostility toward the oil and gas industry has almost certainly curbed investment into production that otherwise would’ve occurred.

“Such extinction rhetoric, coming from the now-president, has an unprecedented chilling effect on investment,” Lieberman said. To put it simply, less investment means less supply — which means higher prices.

It’s absolutely true that our high gas prices aren’t entirely Biden’s fault. But the president is not the helpless bystander his defenders would have you believe.
Yeah - This post is full of shit. I'm not going back through why all of this isn't what's driving oil and gas prices right now, but it's out there if you want to find the truth.
 
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Here are three specific things Biden has done that have led to increased gas prices.

1. Canceling drilling leases and limiting domestic production


Since taking office, Biden has taken too many steps to count to limit domestic production. These include halting federal permits for oil and gas drilling and leasing shortly after taking office and blocking drilling in a major oil-rich Alaskan region.

To be clear, these decisions will mostly affect future production. But that does still significantly affect gas prices because companies factor in their expectations about the future into the decisions they make today.

“Some say that new leases … would have taken time and would not yet be online, but even so, there is evidence that expectations of increased future supply has a beneficial impact on current prices and expectations of future supply drying up has a negative impact on current prices,” the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Ben Lieberman said.

“At a day-to-day level, I am hearing from drillers that they are having a very hard time getting all the approvals they need from [the Environmental Protection Agency] and other agencies in order to produce on existing wells, and of course, new federal leasing has come to a halt,” Lieberman added.

It’s just basic economics that when the government throttles future supply in an industry, that will lead to higher prices both now and in the future. Biden was warned by many critics at the time that this would happen, but he proceeded anyway.

2. Choking regulations that impose big costs and lead to higher prices

Speaking of basic economics, it’s well established that when businesses’ costs rise, that puts upward pressure on the prices they charge consumers. The oil and gas industry is no exception.

And unfortunately, the Biden administration has both proposed and implemented a wide array of regulations on the energy sector, inflicting billions in direct financial costs and incalculable indirect compliance costs — plus further harming expectations for the future.

“The regulatory chokehold imposed by the Biden administration on oil production in place of a Green New Deal has drastically raised gasoline prices, thereby hurting lower-income people the most,” said conservative economist Vance Ginn, who served in the Trump administration.

“This is yet another example of the high cost of big-government environmentalism when the better approach is to remove government barriers so that free markets can better let people adapt to changes in the environment at a much lower cost,” Ginn concluded.

3. Anti-energy rhetoric that discourages investment

Rhetoric matters. While words don’t literally do anything to change gas prices, the signals coming from policymakers absolutely do affect the long-term investment decisions businesses make.

And even as a presidential candidate, Biden sent very negative messages about what his leadership would mean for the gas industry.

In just one example, as Americans for Tax Reform pointed out, Biden said during a campaign stop: “We are going to get rid of fossil fuels. … We’re going to phase out fossil fuels.” Then, upon taking office, the president followed these words with actions such as canceling the Keystone XL pipeline, blocking leases, restricting imports, and pursuing regulations.

In general, Biden’s open hostility toward the oil and gas industry has almost certainly curbed investment into production that otherwise would’ve occurred.

“Such extinction rhetoric, coming from the now-president, has an unprecedented chilling effect on investment,” Lieberman said. To put it simply, less investment means less supply — which means higher prices.

It’s absolutely true that our high gas prices aren’t entirely Biden’s fault. But the president is not the helpless bystander his defenders would have you believe.
This reads like the work of a high school sophmore's term paper.
 
Typical you can't argue the facts so you try and make fun of them as if they don't matter.:cool:

LOL

Opinions are not facts. There were some facts in what you posted and then the data was interpreted. That's the part I am making fun of. Funny that you think that was all factual.

Why are prices coming down now?
 
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Well, no shit. That wasn't my point.
Also, if I'm being sincere, I don't think you're a "dipshit". I don't know you and I wouldn't begin to claim that I do based on a few anonymous posts. I was immaturely throwing back your own comments.

I've spoken to this in other threads that I wish we (as a societal whole) could engage in discourse more cordially rather than with such vitriol (myself included). Despite all the BS that occurs on this forum, my time here has allowed me to see a varying array of viewpoints and belief systems; some of which have led to me to change my stance on certain issues while solidifying others.

Additionally, it's an interesting conundrum of circumstances, this place--does the crap going on in our society fuel people to be harsh here or does the constant feed of doom and gloom on HROT fuel people to be more harsh out there. I wonder.
 
This is one case theyre not wrong. Again, still $0.75-$1.00 higher per gallon than a year ago. The narrative that "prices are low" needs squashed.
And gas prices a year ago were artificially low due to the crash of demand worldwide after Covid and the resultant lockdowns. Those prices were insanely low and it had nothing to do with Republican policies and everything to do with nobody going anywhere. As soon as the world opened up again things took off again and got a bit out of control thanks to a sudden spike in demand, lowered outputs, etc... Then you had the war and there was no chance to really settle down.

Of course Republicans know this. If a Republican President was in charge they'd be making the same case, and the Democrats would likely be taking the other side. It's silly and I really wish people would rise above it.
 
And gas prices a year ago were artificially low due to the crash of demand worldwide after Covid and the resultant lockdowns. Those prices were insanely low and it had nothing to do with Republican policies and everything to do with nobody going anywhere. As soon as the world opened up again things took off again and got a bit out of control thanks to a sudden spike in demand, lowered outputs, etc... Then you had the war and there was no chance to really settle down.

Of course Republicans know this. If a Republican President was in charge they'd be making the same case, and the Democrats would likely be taking the other side. It's silly and I really wish people would rise above it.
No, last year was a pretty typical travel year - actually fairly elevated and nearly the same level as this year.

(and i havent mentioned or blamed either party, so save the partisan shtick)
 
4.79 for 10% regular blend and $5.79 for ethonal free. Diesel is 5.49.

Lake Ontario Region NY State. Down .30 over the last 4 weeks but up 1.50 over last year. Interesting to see New Yorks price not dropping, like in Iowa. Charter fleet is hurting this year with the increased costs.
 
Here are three specific things Biden has done that have led to increased gas prices.

1. Canceling drilling leases and limiting domestic production


Since taking office, Biden has taken too many steps to count to limit domestic production. These include halting federal permits for oil and gas drilling and leasing shortly after taking office and blocking drilling in a major oil-rich Alaskan region.

To be clear, these decisions will mostly affect future production. But that does still significantly affect gas prices because companies factor in their expectations about the future into the decisions they make today.

“Some say that new leases … would have taken time and would not yet be online, but even so, there is evidence that expectations of increased future supply has a beneficial impact on current prices and expectations of future supply drying up has a negative impact on current prices,” the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Ben Lieberman said.

“At a day-to-day level, I am hearing from drillers that they are having a very hard time getting all the approvals they need from [the Environmental Protection Agency] and other agencies in order to produce on existing wells, and of course, new federal leasing has come to a halt,” Lieberman added.

It’s just basic economics that when the government throttles future supply in an industry, that will lead to higher prices both now and in the future. Biden was warned by many critics at the time that this would happen, but he proceeded anyway.

2. Choking regulations that impose big costs and lead to higher prices

Speaking of basic economics, it’s well established that when businesses’ costs rise, that puts upward pressure on the prices they charge consumers. The oil and gas industry is no exception.

And unfortunately, the Biden administration has both proposed and implemented a wide array of regulations on the energy sector, inflicting billions in direct financial costs and incalculable indirect compliance costs — plus further harming expectations for the future.

“The regulatory chokehold imposed by the Biden administration on oil production in place of a Green New Deal has drastically raised gasoline prices, thereby hurting lower-income people the most,” said conservative economist Vance Ginn, who served in the Trump administration.

“This is yet another example of the high cost of big-government environmentalism when the better approach is to remove government barriers so that free markets can better let people adapt to changes in the environment at a much lower cost,” Ginn concluded.

3. Anti-energy rhetoric that discourages investment

Rhetoric matters. While words don’t literally do anything to change gas prices, the signals coming from policymakers absolutely do affect the long-term investment decisions businesses make.

And even as a presidential candidate, Biden sent very negative messages about what his leadership would mean for the gas industry.

In just one example, as Americans for Tax Reform pointed out, Biden said during a campaign stop: “We are going to get rid of fossil fuels. … We’re going to phase out fossil fuels.” Then, upon taking office, the president followed these words with actions such as canceling the Keystone XL pipeline, blocking leases, restricting imports, and pursuing regulations.

In general, Biden’s open hostility toward the oil and gas industry has almost certainly curbed investment into production that otherwise wose uld’ve occurred.

“Such extinction rhetoric, coming from the now-president, has an unprecedented chilling effect on investment,” Lieberman said. To put it simply, less investment means less supply — which means higher prices.

It’s absolutely true that our high gas prices aren’t entirely Biden’s fault. But the president is not the helpless bystander his defenders would have you believe.
While I disagree, if these things actually did make the price of gas go up, why is it now going down?
 
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Also, if I'm being sincere, I don't think you're a "dipshit". I don't know you and I wouldn't begin to claim that I do based on a few anonymous posts. I was immaturely throwing back your own comments.

I've spoken to this in other threads that I wish we (as a societal whole) could engage in discourse more cordially rather than with such vitriol (myself included). Despite all the BS that occurs on this forum, my time here has allowed me to see a varying array of viewpoints and belief systems; some of which have led to me to change my stance on certain issues while solidifying others.

Additionally, it's an interesting conundrum of circumstances, this place--does the crap going on in our society fuel people to be harsh here or does the constant feed of doom and gloom on HROT fuel people to be more harsh out there. I wonder.

I do find you to be a dipshit. Mostly on my interactions with you here.
 
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I saw $3.63 yesterday in Marion. I swear it's gone down every day for the past 2-3 weeks.

Unlike most people here on HROT, I don't understand gas prices. It hard to believe that the price on such a huge commodity as gasoline can drop so fast unless it was artificially high to begin with.
 
Hey hey, we're only 20% higher than we were 1 year ago. Time to celebrate??

Based on oil prices, we're going to stagnant around the $3.50-$3.60 mark, but guess we'll see.
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