Just to provide a fact here. Anytime we have expectations we shit the bed too. Iowa States should get to a minimum 7 wins because of the little 12. Hawks will need a couple lucky bounces to go their way to beat them.
Going on a limb here ISU
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After week 2? Top 5. Wins over UNI and Iowa. Top 5 Iowa State heads to Las Vegas to play UNLV in front of tens of thousands of Iowa State fans.
Preseason AP poll doesnt come out until August, broski.
ISU wont be top 5. The top 5 will be some order of Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma and then another SEC team (A&M, Georgia)
Clown fans love imaginary wins. Just like Twins bragging about the initial Vegas spread the summer of the last game only to watch it evaporate before kickoff and Iowa roll to 5 straight.
You better reserve your room. I hear the Official Iowa State hotel for the game is almost full!
Well, the B1G did have the Leaders and Legends thing going on for a small handful of seasons, and the whole point of that was to try to maintain some sort of competitive balance between the two divisions. There's no question that both the Leaders and the Legends were tougher than the B1G West is now, but both were also weaker than the B1G East. The divisions were re-aligned because of geography and rivalries - Iowa did not play Wisconsin every season under the Leaders and Legends format, even though the two schools aren't much more than 150 miles apart. Even Michigan and Ohio State were in separate divisions, but although the rivalry was preserved, it felt almost artificial because there was always the chance that they could meet again two weeks later in the conference championship game (which never actually happened). Despite the dumb division names and the apparent randomness of which teams ended up where, from a competitive standpoint it did make sense.
Coincidentally, Indiana (whom we face opening week) is in basically the same boat as Iowa State - a program whose only real tradition is having pretty much every other team in the conference toss them around like a ragdoll six or seven times a season, but the tables have turned and now both teams have NY6 bowl aspirations. Yes, they are certainly taking advantage of the fact that some regional powers are down (i.e. Michigan and Texas) and that other usually-strong programs (i.e. WVU, Penn State, Michigan State) are nothing special either. And in the age of conference realignment (yeah, I don't think we're done yet) Iowa State is extremely lucky in that they're finally finding success because if the P5 becomes a P4, they would have possibly found themselves without a seat should the music stop. (Indiana benefits because it's still carries some hoops clout, plus the B1G offers stability no other conference can provide - not even the SEC).
It's a huge longshot, but I personally wouldn't be opposed to ISU ultimately joining the B1G. Iowa-ISU during Rivalry Week with the West title on the line? Sign me up! ISU doesn't put many eyeballs on TV, not even from its own state (not only does it have to compete with Iowa, it also has to compete with Nebraska), and therefore doesn't bring much to the table revenue-wise. Academically it's not elite, but it's good enough for the B1G (unlike Nebby it's an AAU school). If the B12 ultimately does collapse, and ISU needs to break away from the Texas yoke, it can only help itself by continuing to win. It's in their best interest to keep Campbell around and to pay him handsomely.
If you know anything about Iowa football we are not fast starters. Period. So the fact that you keep losing to a slow starting team means you are really slow and/or we both play our best ball later in the season but we would still beat you. Then there is that.
Yep, while Wisconsin has had Iowa’s # lately the games are always competitive. Overall, Iowa and Wisconsin are fairly similar programs. ISU fans say that even though the clones lose head to head games to Iowa, isu is still a better program.
Lol - do you really believe Iswho is a top 5 team? We all know last football season is an * due to the pandemic.
Kind of wondering, if Iowa does not make the BIg 10 title game, will Iowa fans be disappointed? Seems to me Iowa fans really should expect more from their coaching staff than what they have produced. So when is KF going to break through and win the BIg 10?
Why not ISU?
Jared's piece on Iowa State athletics was a fun read... I have thought a lot about Matt Campbell and although I hate to admit it, there are some similarities between him and ferentz... (I think Campbell is better in every way, but maybe something to do with my cardinal and gold colored glasses)...
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Looked pretty normal to me, Bama, Clemson, OSU were in the playoff's and Bama wins another title.
HoWhy not ISU?
Jared's piece on Iowa State athletics was a fun read... I have thought a lot about Matt Campbell and although I hate to admit it, there are some similarities between him and ferentz... (I think Campbell is better in every way, but maybe something to do with my cardinal and gold colored glasses)...
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Shit.
That kind of delusion should be studied. Clemson comparisons???
The Big 12 is waaaaaay down(again) and they caught some breaks to go 9-3 during a pandemic. Don’t forget a 17 point home loss to the Sun Belt. Now they think they are Clemson in waiting?
Fun fact from the 2021 NFL draft.
Big Ten West. 7 teams, 18 draft picks.
big 12 - 10 teams, 22 draft picks.
Click the link
Why not ISU?
Jared's piece on Iowa State athletics was a fun read... I have thought a lot about Matt Campbell and although I hate to admit it, there are some similarities between him and ferentz... (I think Campbell is better in every way, but maybe something to do with my cardinal and gold colored glasses)...
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This upcoming season I do have high hopes of Iowa reaching the Big 10 title game. However, there are lots of good coaches/parity in B10 West Division, which always makes that a difficult task.
True...for the top of college football food chain. However, for the rest of the college football world, last season was certainly watered down by effects of the pandemic.
Why??? A former coach from the Hawkeye staff (Barry Alverez) built the Badgers similar to Iowa’s program...strong offensive line play, consistent run game, and stellar defense. Even similarities in the two programs recruiting tactics. I realize you’re not a Big 10 fan, so I can understand your ignorance on this topic.
They do have something in common. They are both a rung or two above ISU
Like 2 of their players running into each other on a punt return?!
Or wait . . . it feels like they’ve done that before already.
Who poops black and gold? Dude, you've got some health issues....
Really? Really? Iowa would of smashed you guys like they have the last 6 years or is that 16 years? No chance! Hawks would of wiped their butts with you clowns 🤡
Can you link for me the last outright football conference championship for isu that is recognized by the conference?
Clown fans can’t because isu has NEVER WON AN OUTRIGHT FOOTBALL CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP.
Yikes
You are beating your chest about the BIG West having 2.57 draft picks per team as opposed to the Big 12 having 2.2 draft picks per team? Alrighty then...
Not really beating my chest, but I’m not the one constantly claiming the B1G West is terrible like delusional ISU fans. It’s better than the big 12, which is nothing to brag about.
.37 more NFL draft picks per team this year makes one college football conference better than the other huh? Interesting thought process.
Oh I was just talking about the B1G West. If you talk the entire conference it’s gets worse for you.
Tell me about the first round draft picks in the big 12 this year.
Here’s another fun fact.
Ferentz, 22 years, 79 draft picks.
ISU, 86 years, 120 draft picks.
You understand he's countering the thought process by ISU fans that the Big 12 West sucks?
You are really into the NFL draft. It seems you follow it very closely. Who has more 2022 NFL draft picks on their roster Iowa or Iowa State?
