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Going to be pretty dicey tomorrow night...

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Word is both C.J and Connor may not be available to play tomorrow night...ugh.
C.J. with a still unknown foot injury and Connor battling flu symptoms. Garza, Wieskamp, Toussaint, Evelyn, Kriener, Pemsl, and Till....the only scholarship players available.
Might even see Nicolas Hobbs and Aidan Vanderloo before the end of the game. Fun Times!!!
 
Jack Nunge, out for the season torn ACL, Patrick McCaffery, out for the season, stamina issues, Jordan Bohannan, out for the season, surgery on right hip, Austin Ash, out indefinitely mono, C.J. Fredrick, out indefinitely foot issues, Connor McCaffery, out indefinitely virus, flu? What else can go wrong with such a promising beginning to the season:(
 
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Jack Nunge, out for the season torn ACL, Patrick McCaffery, out for the season, stamina issues, Jordan Bohannan, out for the season, surgery on right hip, Austin Ash, out indefinitely mono, C.J. Fredrick, out indefinitely foot issues, Connor McCaffery, out indefinitely virus, flu? What else can go wrong with such a promising beginning to the season:(
You forgot Cordell Pemsl bad back and Ryan Kriener sore knee.
 
Jack Nunge, out for the season torn ACL, Patrick McCaffery, out for the season, stamina issues, Jordan Bohannan, out for the season, surgery on right hip, Austin Ash, out indefinitely mono, C.J. Fredrick, out indefinitely foot issues, Connor McCaffery, out indefinitely virus, flu? What else can go wrong with such a promising beginning to the season:(
The positive is that they r playing Nebraska.
 
Why?,.. Fran can't control injuries and illness...

He has 11 guys scholly and you get to recruit 13, so if you run out of healthy scholarship players because you couldn't keep a full roster, isn't that partly on Fran? Three upperclassmen chose to leave Fran and transfer elsewhere, isn't player retention on him too? Fran has set the plate up for a monster year next year...IF Garza stays. You gotta grade Fran on W/L.. if he ends up not making NCAA tourney this year, then he's not on hot seat, but injuries to me is just another excuse. Coach Davis and Coach Alford got run out of town for pretty similar performance in W/L.
 
All they are really out “indefinitely”....seems like a not all injuries/illnesses on the team are on the same level to call them that.
 
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He has 11 guys scholly and you get to recruit 13, so if you run out of healthy scholarship players because you couldn't keep a full roster, isn't that partly on Fran? Three upperclassmen chose to leave Fran and transfer elsewhere, isn't player retention on him too? Fran has set the plate up for a monster year next year...IF Garza stays. You gotta grade Fran on W/L.. if he ends up not making NCAA tourney this year, then he's not on hot seat, but injuries to me is just another excuse. Coach Davis and Coach Alford got run out of town for pretty similar performance in W/L.
So your seriously blaming Cook leaving on Fran? :confused: As far as the others, Davis should not have been run, and Alford didn't want to be at Iowa anyway, so no loss there....
 
Where is the word coming from that both Conner and CJ are out? Not doubting you, but inquiring minds want to know.
 
There are tweets from beat reporters that their statuses are "uncertain". Connor was throwing up Sunday, and there hasn't been a lot released about CJF's foot/ankle; just that Fran doesn't know if he'll be available for tomorrow.

Kriener's knee seems ok, so that is at least some good news.
 
No problem, Wiesy moves to point guard and Pemsl can play the swing man. Kriener and Garza will rain the threes all night long. JT can post up their tiny guards down low. Cripes, I hope it doesn't come to this.
 
He has 11 guys scholly and you get to recruit 13, so if you run out of healthy scholarship players because you couldn't keep a full roster, isn't that partly on Fran? Three upperclassmen chose to leave Fran and transfer elsewhere, isn't player retention on him too? Fran has set the plate up for a monster year next year...IF Garza stays. You gotta grade Fran on W/L.. if he ends up not making NCAA tourney this year, then he's not on hot seat, but injuries to me is just another excuse. Coach Davis and Coach Alford got run out of town for pretty similar performance in W/L.
Don’t think he was planning on losing PMac, JBo and Nunge for the year on top of 3 others leaving. You can’t blame Fran for players transferring out unless he was mismanaging them (don’t think he was) and definitely can’t blame him for Cook.
 
He has 11 guys scholly and you get to recruit 13, so if you run out of healthy scholarship players because you couldn't keep a full roster, isn't that partly on Fran? Three upperclassmen chose to leave Fran and transfer elsewhere, isn't player retention on him too? Fran has set the plate up for a monster year next year...IF Garza stays. You gotta grade Fran on W/L.. if he ends up not making NCAA tourney this year, then he's not on hot seat, but injuries to me is just another excuse. Coach Davis and Coach Alford got run out of town for pretty similar performance in W/L.

jfc
 
He has 11 guys scholly and you get to recruit 13, so if you run out of healthy scholarship players because you couldn't keep a full roster, isn't that partly on Fran?

Fran can't change decisions made by Cook, Moss and Daily,.. and frantically recruiting bodies simply to fill a roster is a recipe for long term disaster,... You recruit the pieces that fit, you coach them up to play as a team, and when they choose to move on you wish them well...
 
We’ve got 2 starters so it should be a pretty level playing field. I haven’t checked to see if Vegas has it off the board or not, but I doubt if they have Nebby as double digit favorites.

The remaining Hawks will give us an all out effort of that I’m sure. This has the potential to be a very satisfying win, but expect to hear that Nebraska will be a national champion soon if they pull this one out.
 
So your seriously blaming Cook leaving on Fran? :confused: As far as the others, Davis should not have been run, and Alford didn't want to be at Iowa anyway, so no loss there....

No, I am blaming Fran for having 11 guys on Scholly and saying he bears partial responsibility for not having enough scholarship players because he does a poor job tapping grad transfers, spring junior college/late qualifiers in spring to top off his roster to address immediate needs.

Fran has had a steady stream of guys transferring out on him over past few years.... Hutton, CW, Flemming, Ellngson, Dailey, Moss, Dickerson, Wagner. so it is not like he hasn't had opportunities to sign guys to shore up needs. He signed is first grad transfer 9 years into his career...this guy is slow learner.

Fran is not a great coach. He's not a Bo Ryan, Izzo, Keady, Lute Olson.
He's an Alford level coach in W/L at Iowa.. If Fran doesn't make the NCAA's this year then they excuse is injuries. Maybe Fran is on cusp of Breakout year next year...or maybe Garza leaves and it is back to middle of the pack.
 
No, I am blaming Fran for having 11 guys on Scholly and saying he bears partial responsibility for not having enough scholarship players because he does a poor job tapping grad transfers, spring junior college/late qualifiers in spring to top off his roster to address immediate needs.

Fran has had a steady stream of guys transferring out on him over past few years.... Hutton, CW, Flemming, Ellngson, Dailey, Moss, Dickerson, Wagner. so it is not like he hasn't had opportunities to sign guys to shore up needs. He signed is first grad transfer 9 years into his career...this guy is slow learner.

Fran is not a great coach. He's not a Bo Ryan, Izzo, Keady, Lute Olson.
He's an Alford level coach in W/L at Iowa.. If Fran doesn't make the NCAA's this year then they excuse is injuries. Maybe Fran is on cusp of Breakout year next year...or maybe Garza leaves and it is back to middle of the pack.
regardless of Frans coaching ability, i personally think he is good not great, next year will be interesting, I think Iowa has a chance to be really really good next year if Garza comes back, I would guess he will but you never know, even given his limitations athletically his ability to score inside and out and his tremendous effort some NBA team might take a chance. And not to be captain obvious but without him I think Iowa is not very good next year and would be fortunate to finish middle of the pack, even with all you have coming back. Weiskamp is very good and maybe Jbo returns, Joe T and CJ look good too, but really the threat Garza is makes all those other guys so much better. Without him and no real replacement that looks even close it will be tough, but that said he will likely be back and they will be very good.
 
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He has 11 guys scholly and you get to recruit 13, so if you run out of healthy scholarship players because you couldn't keep a full roster, isn't that partly on Fran? Three upperclassmen chose to leave Fran and transfer elsewhere, isn't player retention on him too? Fran has set the plate up for a monster year next year...IF Garza stays. You gotta grade Fran on W/L.. if he ends up not making NCAA tourney this year, then he's not on hot seat, but injuries to me is just another excuse. Coach Davis and Coach Alford got run out of town for pretty similar performance in W/L.

Agree. Clearly Fran can't control the injuries but he knew he was losing Moss, Cook, Baer and that Jbo would be 50-50 at best and his solution was Evelyn? Lose 3-4 legit scorers and replace them with someone who has less offense than Connor? Not exactly what I was expecting at this point in Fran's tenure given all the grad transfer talent that is available every year.

Credit the team and staff for getting to this point, but it's hard to envision them sustaining it given the injuries that have piled up. Hopefully CJ and Connor bounce back quickly.
 
So, Nunge and Patrick don't factor in to filling Cook and Baer's minutes? Toussaint wasn't in the plans for the possibility of not having Bohannon?

First of all, let's see what the team can do short handed. They've lost a close game away from home with 2 in game injuries and an illness and now the fan base is ready to bash Fran's planning?
 
Iowa will blow Nebraska out tonight. Book it. These kids are mentally tough and will circle the wagons as the basketball gods continue to test them. Nebraska has no one on its roster who can handle Garza [who does?] or Kreiner. Both guys will have huge nights both in scoring and rebounding. Joe T will outshine any of Nebbie's guards, Weiskamp will shoot the lights out, and Iowa will destroy the Huskers.
 
Iowa will blow Nebraska out tonight. Book it. These kids are mentally tough and will circle the wagons as the basketball gods continue to test them. Nebraska has no one on its roster who can handle Garza [who does?] or Kreiner. Both guys will have huge nights both in scoring and rebounding. Joe T will outshine any of Nebbie's guards, Weiskamp will shoot the lights out, and Iowa will destroy the Huskers.
LOL - I just posted something with similar sentiment in the game about the spread.
 
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Iowa will blow Nebraska out tonight. Book it. These kids are mentally tough and will circle the wagons as the basketball gods continue to test them. Nebraska has no one on its roster who can handle Garza [who does?] or Kreiner. Both guys will have huge nights both in scoring and rebounding. Joe T will outshine any of Nebbie's guards, Weiskamp will shoot the lights out, and Iowa will destroy the Huskers.
Great to see the confidence.
IMO college MBB is crazy unpredictable this year but Debby just really isn't a very good team this year so maybe the outcome is that obvious.
Its clear that the BB gods are testing Iowas guys and so far Im pretty darn impressed.
 
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He has 11 guys scholly and you get to recruit 13, so if you run out of healthy scholarship players because you couldn't keep a full roster, isn't that partly on Fran? Three upperclassmen chose to leave Fran and transfer elsewhere, isn't player retention on him too? Fran has set the plate up for a monster year next year...IF Garza stays. You gotta grade Fran on W/L.. if he ends up not making NCAA tourney this year, then he's not on hot seat, but injuries to me is just another excuse. Coach Davis and Coach Alford got run out of town for pretty similar performance in W/L.
In all seriousness, you are a moron. We lost two STARTERS because of injuries, they weren't just scholarship players, yet he sits 10-4 and still locked in the tourney at this point. Maishe was bad (excellent for Iowa), Moss saw CJF(clearly better), and Tyler left to take his chance at $ and the NBA. Good god, we have some idiotic fans. Alford got run out of town, because he lost the fanbase supporting a rapist.
 
Agree. Clearly Fran can't control the injuries but he knew he was losing Moss, Cook, Baer and that Jbo would be 50-50 at best and his solution was Evelyn? Lose 3-4 legit scorers and replace them with someone who has less offense than Connor? Not exactly what I was expecting at this point in Fran's tenure given all the grad transfer talent that is available every year.

Credit the team and staff for getting to this point, but it's hard to envision them sustaining it given the injuries that have piled up. Hopefully CJ and Connor bounce back quickly.

my god you guys are idiots when it comes to basic knowledge about college hoops.

do you think a lot of quality grad transfers are lining up to play BACKUP minutes???
 
my god you guys are idiots when it comes to basic knowledge about college hoops.

do you think a lot of quality grad transfers are lining up to play BACKUP minutes???
These guys can't even remember Fran going after Hauser. Honestly, I think Ihawk and Hawklogic are the same person liking and replying to their own posts. They both only bash Fran after losses, with the same repeated phrases, and never come around when we are winning. It's so moronic, it's hard to believe the two people exist this equal.
 
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You can argue that he should have kept a full roster and complain about turnover, but the flip side of that is you don't want to add just anyone to your roster. 13 guys is a lot to keep happy in this day and age. You add a couple of malcontents and where does that get you? More turnover. Most people on here were glad that Daily left. The fact we've had so many injuries this year just reiterates to me the value of keeping your upperclassman, even if they aren't big contributors. We could use Daily right now.
 
I don't recall a situation where lack of timeouts has cost the hawks a game in the last ten years. I hope fran starts to use TOs to get the players some rest throughout the ball game
 
You can argue that he should have kept a full roster and complain about turnover, but the flip side of that is you don't want to add just anyone to your roster. 13 guys is a lot to keep happy in this day and age. You add a couple of malcontents and where does that get you? More turnover. Most people on here were glad that Daily left. The fact we've had so many injuries this year just reiterates to me the value of keeping your upperclassman, even if they aren't big contributors. We could use Daily right now.

Did you forget that our radio announcer forced him to leave:D. If Dailey had indeed stayed he would be a welcome addition, but he wasn't going to get the minutes he craved as a senior, with C.J. becoming eligible to play. Maishe decided to bail...
You can't blame Fran for that....
 
No, I am blaming Fran for having 11 guys on Scholly and saying he bears partial responsibility for not having enough scholarship players because he does a poor job tapping grad transfers, spring junior college/late qualifiers in spring to top off his roster to address immediate needs.

Fran has had a steady stream of guys transferring out on him over past few years.... Hutton, CW, Flemming, Ellngson, Dailey, Moss, Dickerson, Wagner. so it is not like he hasn't had opportunities to sign guys to shore up needs. He signed is first grad transfer 9 years into his career...this guy is slow learner.

Fran is not a great coach. He's not a Bo Ryan, Izzo, Keady, Lute Olson.
He's an Alford level coach in W/L at Iowa.. If Fran doesn't make the NCAA's this year then they excuse is injuries. Maybe Fran is on cusp of Breakout year next year...or maybe Garza leaves and it is back to middle of the pack.
This is horseshite. Not worth more than a two-sentence response.
 
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