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How to piss PSU fans off big time!

One of the reasons I rarely visit themat forums..
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Amen to that.

I've all but given up on themat board. Compared to some of the dbags (mostly PSU fans) that post there, MSU158 is a model of civility and generally provides informative posts.

You can have a guy lose in international competition, like when Ramos lost to Cuba's Bonne Rodriguez, and you'll have PSU fan Lemonpie starting a "Ramos" thread just to laugh at and ridicule Ramos.

Or PSU fan cletus making up BS about Metcalf.

Or PSU fan hurricane posting a picture of where Slaton's misdemeanor shoplifting incident occurred, complete with a poem he wrote about it or posting a screen capture of DSJ pushing Watts, to make it look like he's unsportsmanlike, while ignoring the haymaker Watts threw a second before. I could go on, but what's the point.

I always try to separate the PSU wrestlers (some of whom I've admired) from these types of fans and I know most PSU fans are not like that, but any of our more reasonable PSU fans on this board might want to consider what their side puts out. There is generally nothing comparable coming from Iowa fans or MSU158, imho.
 
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I always try to separate the PSU wrestlers (some of whom I've admired) from these types of fans and I know most PSU fans are not like that, but any of our more reasonable PSU fans on this board might want to consider what their side puts out. There is generally nothing comparable coming from Iowa fans or MSU158, imho.
Unfortunately, this is quite true rossel33. Trust me, we've discussed on the PSU boards how bad it makes us look when the Chuckles type posts anywhere really. I see Iowa fans post on several forums, but very, very few troll, even mildly at any time. I'll grant you that 90% of the trolls outside themat are PSU trolls to my eyes. Not even sure some of them know which end of the singlet is up.
 
Bubba Jenkins vilified by Iowa fans? What for, for being a rag doll for Metcalf? LOL!

You obviously weren't following wrestling back then. Bubba had a solid finals match against Brent. Multiple takedowns, winning after the first 4-2. Very close right up to a questionable non slam call at the end the second. Really a great show for the fans, but unfortunately this was sufficient for a bunch of Iowa fans to put him the hate list and over the following year there was a litany of personal insults.
 
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You obviously weren't following wrestling back then. Bubba had a solid finals match against Brent. Multiple takedowns, winning after the first 4-2. Very close right up to a questionable non slam call at the end the second. Really a great show for the fans, but unfortunately this was sufficient for a bunch of Iowa fans to put him the hate list and over the following year there was a litany of personal insults.
:p
 
You obviously weren't following wrestling back then. Bubba had a solid finals match against Brent. Multiple takedowns, winning after the first 4-2. Very close right up to a questionable non slam call at the end the second. Really a great show for the fans, but unfortunately this was sufficient for a bunch of Iowa fans to put him the hate list and over the following year there was a litany of personal insults.

Yes it was a nail-biter right up to the point that it wasn't a nail-biter. You're brilliant - now go away.
 
Multiple takedowns, winning after the first 4-2. wow 2 take downs is called multiple by a penn state fan woo hoo do u recall the final score? I'm to lazy to look it up but Bubba was a rag doll at the end......please stay away ok
 
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You obviously weren't following wrestling back then. Bubba had a solid finals match against Brent. Multiple takedowns, winning after the first 4-2. Very close right up to a questionable non slam call at the end the second. Really a great show for the fans, but unfortunately this was sufficient for a bunch of Iowa fans to put him the hate list and over the following year there was a litany of personal insults.
Guess you don't remember the litany of personal insults your own Lion fan base had against Bubba after he left PSU and stole the Magic from Taylor. You may or may not remember when Bubba cradled up his replacement in the finals? And Metcalf always always took care of business when it came to Jenkins, Molinaro, Burroughs etc. "multiple takedowns, winning the first period"... LMAO
 
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This is probably a regional thing, but "more than one" is the actual definition of "multiple" in the dictionaries we use here in the East.

So if I moved to the out east then I'd say "I have multiple eyes" or "hey, bartender give multiple beers." That cool. We here in Iowa usually say "two" or "couple" - like "get me a couple of beers."
 
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Multiple takedowns, winning after the first 4-2. wow 2 take downs is called multiple by a penn state fan woo hoo do u recall the final score? I'm to lazy to look it up but Bubba was a rag doll at the end......please stay away ok

Ok, I did the work for you. It was a great match to watch (even though my guy lost).
1st - Metcalf gets in deep, Bubba gets a counter TD. Metcalf gets out quick.
Bubba gets a hard fought 2nd TD after taking the initial shot. Metcalf gets out quick again. Great hard fought 1st period for Bubba.

Metcalf throws Bubba around all 2nd and 3rd. 14-8 final. Metcalf clearly the better wrestler. Metcalf is fun to watch. Always agressive.
 
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Leave it to FT....

Metcalf beating Jenkins 14-8 is "a solid match" and "a great match" for Jenkins.

But when Metcalf lost to Caldwell by 11-6, with Caldwell taking an extended time out penalized for stalling, crawling off the mat, and running away at the end of the match, it was routinely described on themat forum by the usual clowns as Metcalf "nearly got majored."

LOL!!! Too much!
 
I don't know why you guys are getting so annoyed with me? It was your fan base that got all indignant over a "couple" takedowns and first period lead. Hawk fan's that posted back then know what I'm talking about whether you want to admit it or not; heck you can see just by the reaction I got here now how easy you guys get so bent out of shape by anyone claiming that match was close. Never-mind Jenkins was up by 1 with less then 30 seconds to go in the second as a huge underdog, it has to be considered the greatest rag doll decision of all time, lol. Thanks for proving my point; if anything you guys are consistent.

As far as Bubba's pin of Taylor, there was a lot of disappointment but not much by way of personal insults. Wildturk is simply fabricating stuff in an attempt to deflect from the point that Jenkins was vilified by the Iowa fan base up to when he left PSU, then all of a sudden they where rallying behind poor Bubba, the victim of that evil Sanderson fella.
 
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So lets see...score was 4-2 in favor of Bubba at end of first period.
Final score was 14-8 hmm looks to me like Metcalf got 6 takedowns
and bubba got four escapes (given to him for release) in the last
2 periods..Yes very close match, well for first period.

but of course Cael invented that style of wrestling
 
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So if I moved to the out east then I'd say "I have multiple eyes" or "hey, bartender give multiple beers." That cool. We here in Iowa usually say "two" or "couple" - like "get me a couple of beers."

So let me get this correct, Spencer Lee has won multiple states titles?
 
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Unfortunately, this is quite true rossel33. Trust me, we've discussed on the PSU boards how bad it makes us look when the Chuckles type posts anywhere really. I see Iowa fans post on several forums, but very, very few troll, even mildly at any time. I'll grant you that 90% of the trolls outside themat are PSU trolls to my eyes. Not even sure some of them know which end of the singlet is up.

I'm not on this board much, and I posted something on another thread today before seeing this. I agree with PS85. It pains me to see how badly some PSU fans behave on another team's board. People are free, I guess to post what they want, but whatever pleasure they get out of baiting other fans doesn't negate the very bad impression they give of PSU. I can only say that they do not reflect the PSU fans I know. Again, my apologies!
 
Most people realize that there are good and bad fans. The good fans get shit from HR posters because with so many PSU trolls or fans dropping in to talk smack, why take the time to be discerning? And boy, you all have a lot of trolls across the message boards.
 
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Most people realize that there are good and bad fans. The good fans get shit from HR posters because with so many PSU trolls or fans dropping in to talk smack, why take the time to be discerning? And boy, you all have a lot of trolls across the message boards.
My guess is that most of them are relatively new fans, that are trying to somehow bask in others' glory. I think that most of us that have followed the Lions for 30-40 or more years have a great appreciation for the sport and for good wrestlers no matter what school they wrestle for.

I don't read any other neutral boards, so haven't seen what some other PSU fans are evidently doing there. I used to be on TWT until it fell apart. I really enjoyed the interaction of fans from different teams on that board. It degenerated a bit at times, but mostly was quite informative and enjoyable.
 
I'm not on this board much, and I posted something on another thread today before seeing this. I agree with PS85. It pains me to see how badly some PSU fans behave on another team's board. People are free, I guess to post what they want, but whatever pleasure they get out of baiting other fans doesn't negate the very bad impression they give of PSU. I can only say that they do not reflect the PSU fans I know. Again, my apologies!
1973??
 
Guess you don't remember the litany of personal insults your own Lion fan base had against Bubba after he left PSU and stole the Magic from Taylor. You may or may not remember when Bubba cradled up his replacement in the finals? And Metcalf always always took care of business when it came to Jenkins, Molinaro, Burroughs etc. "multiple takedowns, winning the first period"... LMAO

LMAO, still hating, are we?

Bubba wrestles DT 100 times, and 99 of them would not have ended that way.

He got caught. It happens. Happened to Kyle Snyder last year too.
 
So lets see...score was 4-2 in favor of Bubba at end of first period.
Final score was 14-8 hmm looks to me like Metcalf got 6 takedowns
and bubba got four escapes (given to him for release) in the last
2 periods..Yes very close match, well for first period.

but of course Cael invented that style of wrestling

I was there and let me tell you that Metcalf brought the action and WRESTLED like a mad man.
Great wrestler and a great match.

I love Metcalf and am pulling for him to bring home a medal this summer.
 
I was there and let me tell you that Metcalf brought the action and WRESTLED like a mad man.
Great wrestler and a great match.

I love Metcalf and am pulling for him to bring home a medal this summer.
OK, now roll over and wag your tail at the same time.
 
LMAO, still hating, are we?

Bubba wrestles DT 100 times, and 99 of them would not have ended that way.

He got caught. It happens. Happened to Kyle Snyder last year too.
If "caught" is the same thing as getting body locked and violently whipped-over while simultaneously being outside tripped, right to your back from your feet, then yeah, Snyder "got caught" all right........

I would say he got overpowered and ragdolled, but maybe its just semantics............
 
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If "caught" is the same thing as getting body locked and violently whipped-over while simultaneously being outside tripped, right to your back from your feet, then yeah, Snyder "got caught" all right........

I would say he got overpowered and ragdolled, but maybe its just semantics............

Yup...Snyder didn't get "caught." Kyven's move the whole way. Getting caught is executing a high risk move, failing and ending up in a World of Shit. Kind of like had Myles Martin ended up flat on his back and got stuck in the finals against Nickal when executing his throw.
 
I don't know why you guys are getting so annoyed with me? .

Can I answer this for you? Please. You are a total Jacka...s Your logic is that of a sloth. Your posts are out of context and you cry like a baby when these truths are brought to your attention. This should effectively end your contributions to the HR. Your views are neither humorous or informative, and every time I happen upon one of your posts I feel dumberer. I'd suspect, being the decent guy/gal you are, you will be kind to us HR folk and end your posting. Effective immediately. Right.

Hope your question was answered.

I will again begin my self imposed banishment.
 
But before I go, another thought on what this thread is all about--yet again.

Because of you pen state trolls, both within this thread and your ever-present, always unwanted brethren in nearly every thread, I will once again remind the HR faithful of what we are witnessing with the pen stater trolls--who are apparently now comprising about 40% of all HR posts.

The last I spoke on the matter, I was no longer allowed to bring up the comparison between the constant pen stater trolls on HR and the same folks back in Happy Valley who used the same tactics when the whole Sandusky crimes/denials/cover-ups were so abundant. Yes, the pen staters who post here are the same trolls who used the same logic and tactics we saw and still see regarding the Sandusky pedophile cover-ups/denials.

They want to pretend all is well and want to validated by fans within a clean program, with a legitimate history. Why else would they inundate this site?

This thread, to this point anyway, is classic pen state fiction and trolling 101. It is filled with many of the same sort of Sandusky like denials, half-truths and outright lies. Look at pen states recent history and closely review the Sandusky debacle. It mirrors many of the posts in this thread by the good pen state folk. We know the drill and it played out here as always: deny the facts, deny events ever even happened, twist the truth, and then accuse the victim until the truth is actually revealed--which in this thread is ISU if you hadn't figured it out, as just one example--and then claim, after the fact, KNOWING ABOUT the CRIME and NOT ADDRESSING it is in no way CONNECTED to the CRIME itself. Of course not. Not in their polluted, trolling minds.

I took a self imposed break from the HR, but this thread was worth the comment. I know many HR regulars view the pen state trolls as necessary. I know many liberally use the ignore button. I know there are 2 or 3 decent pen state posters--not involved in this thread, by the way. I've heard from many HR regulars that the pen state crowd of posting trolls add so much perspective to the sport and our site. But come on. 40-50% of this thread is composed of pen state trolls and troll apologists. Enough is enough. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Stand up to these trolls in every thread.

Or leave it all to the trolls, like I did. Come back in a month or so and see it for what it is.

(At least MSU158 and the other HR regulars in this particular thread have the balls to take on these Sandusky like trolls. Keep up the good fight; it doesn't go unnoticed.)
 
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But come on. 40-50% of this thread is composed of pen state trolls and troll apologists. Enough is enough. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Stand up to these trolls in every thread.
PSU posters commenting in a thread titled, "How to piss PSU fans off big time". That's shocking.
 
But before I go, another thought on what this thread is all about--yet again.

Because of you pen state trolls, both within this thread and your ever-present, always unwanted brethren in nearly every thread, I will once again remind the HR faithful of what we are witnessing with the pen stater trolls--who are apparently now comprising about 40% of all HR posts.

The last I spoke on the matter, I was no longer allowed to bring up the comparison between the constant pen stater trolls on HR and the same folks back in Happy Valley who used the same tactics when the whole Sandusky crimes/denials/cover-ups were so abundant. Yes, the pen staters who post here are the same trolls who used the same logic and tactics we saw and still see regarding the Sandusky pedophile cover-ups/denials.

They want to pretend all is well and want to validated by fans within a clean program, with a legitimate history. Why else would they inundate this site?

This thread, to this point anyway, is classic pen state fiction and trolling 101. It is filled with many of the same sort of Sandusky like denials, half-truths and outright lies. Look at pen states recent history and closely review the Sandusky debacle. It mirrors many of the posts in this thread by the good pen state folk. We know the drill and it played out here as always: deny the facts, deny events ever even happened, twist the truth, and then accuse the victim until the truth is actually revealed--which in this thread is ISU if you hadn't figured it out, as just one example--and then claim, after the fact, KNOWING ABOUT the CRIME and NOT ADDRESSING it is in no way CONNECTED to the CRIME itself. Of course not. Not in their polluted, trolling minds.

I took a self imposed break from the HR, but this thread was worth the comment. I know many HR regulars view the pen state trolls as necessary. I know many liberally use the ignore button. I know there are 2 or 3 decent pen state posters--not involved in this thread, by the way. I've heard from many HR regulars that the pen state crowd of posting trolls add so much perspective to the sport and our site. But come on. 40-50% of this thread is composed of pen state trolls and troll apologists. Enough is enough. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Stand up to these trolls in every thread.

Or leave it all to the trolls, like I did. Come back in a month or so and see it for what it is.

(At least MSU158 and the other HR regulars in this particular thread have the balls to take on these Sandusky like trolls. Keep up the good fight; it doesn't go unnoticed.)

Man that is some deep thought and sounds like a lot of pent-up anger. Did you go to a Penn State football camp in your youth?
 
Yeah, you'll get people to take you seriously by using the Sandusky card. It's two entirely different situations but the red herring is difficult to pass up for some people. And I like how you can make broad generalizations while bringing up the red herring. Kudos.

Seriously, given KJ's statement quoted above, why would anyone think there were no conversations between KJ and Cael about Long and that there wasn't a support system in place for Long when he got to Penn State? Unless you are just insistent on seeing the worst of the situation, which is a pretty telling thing.
Long needed to complete an intervention before he began wrestling again. That did not happen because Cael decided that having Long wrestle for PSU was more important than Long's future well being. That is a fact! Had Cael cared about Long, he would have made sure that Long was in good shape mentally before wrestling. Reports were out there that Long was still drinking during the season, just not caught in any incidents.
As far as Cael leaving, most Iowans were upset with Cael because of how he handled getting Bobby Douglas "retired". I know Bobby and he was not ready to retire. Bobby was very unhappy with Cael because he felt betrayed by Cael. Bobby believed that Cael caused his being relieved of his duties. Is that a fact? Good question. Bobby certainly believed it to be a fact. He knows better than anyone. After getting Bobby gone, he then shortly later leaves for PSU. That is fact.
 
Yeah, It's so hard to believe that someone would pick a guy(BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED)to take 4th, that took 5th as a freshman, didn't wrestle a folkstyle match during his redshirt season, bumped up a weight class that returned a national champ in Tsirtsis, the 4th and 5th place finishers in Sorenson and Clagon and Henderson(placed 4th over Retherford in 2014) bumping up.

It's not like I picked Retherford to finish there after he had wrestled for half the season. I obviously picked him to win it all. But, of course, you cherry pick just like the others.

Finally, I was a very neutral poster for some time. I have picked PSU, Iowa, tOSU, Minnesota and OkState to win. Posters like you, made me grow a genuine dislike for many of you and tainted my PSU outlook on message boards. I have been around themat since the Iowa run BEFORE PSU. I didn't start out saying ANYTHING negative about PSU. I just got sick of the likes of tbar and flyingtiger and voiced that opinion.

I don't mind you guys disliking me. I find it quite amusing. However, many of the things you are on me for have never, nor will ever, exist......

Agree with most of it, however the tbar stuff could be singled out as somewhat over the top -
Yeah, It's so hard to believe that someone would pick a guy(BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED)to take 4th, that took 5th as a freshman, didn't wrestle a folkstyle match during his redshirt season, bumped up a weight class that returned a national champ in Tsirtsis, the 4th and 5th place finishers in Sorenson and Clagon and Henderson(placed 4th over Retherford in 2014) bumping up.

It's not like I picked Retherford to finish there after he had wrestled for half the season. I obviously picked him to win it all. But, of course, you cherry pick just like the others.

Finally, I was a very neutral poster for some time. I have picked PSU, Iowa, tOSU, Minnesota and OkState to win. Posters like you, made me grow a genuine dislike for many of you and tainted my PSU outlook on message boards. I have been around themat since the Iowa run BEFORE PSU. I didn't start out saying ANYTHING negative about PSU. I just got sick of the likes of tbar and flyingtiger and voiced that opinion.

I don't mind you guys disliking me. I find it quite amusing. However, many of the things you are on me for have never, nor will ever, exist......
 
This stupid thread needs to end nothing learned and just all mud slinging so please lets just end this.
And this thread is different than every other thread around here nowadays how exactly?

I'd rather this thread last until these clowns are all gone.
 
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And this thread is different than every other thread around here nowadays how exactly?

I'd rather this thread last until these clowns are all gone.
Some of us are on your side in the battle to eliminate PSU trolls from HR, but Minnhawkeye is correct. This thread only attracts that element like a moth to a flame.
 
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But before I go, another thought on what this thread is all about--yet again.

Because of you pen state trolls, both within this thread and your ever-present, always unwanted brethren in nearly every thread, I will once again remind the HR faithful of what we are witnessing with the pen stater trolls--who are apparently now comprising about 40% of all HR posts.

The last I spoke on the matter, I was no longer allowed to bring up the comparison between the constant pen stater trolls on HR and the same folks back in Happy Valley who used the same tactics when the whole Sandusky crimes/denials/cover-ups were so abundant. Yes, the pen staters who post here are the same trolls who used the same logic and tactics we saw and still see regarding the Sandusky pedophile cover-ups/denials.

They want to pretend all is well and want to validated by fans within a clean program, with a legitimate history. Why else would they inundate this site?

This thread, to this point anyway, is classic pen state fiction and trolling 101. It is filled with many of the same sort of Sandusky like denials, half-truths and outright lies. Look at pen states recent history and closely review the Sandusky debacle. It mirrors many of the posts in this thread by the good pen state folk. We know the drill and it played out here as always: deny the facts, deny events ever even happened, twist the truth, and then accuse the victim until the truth is actually revealed--which in this thread is ISU if you hadn't figured it out, as just one example--and then claim, after the fact, KNOWING ABOUT the CRIME and NOT ADDRESSING it is in no way CONNECTED to the CRIME itself. Of course not. Not in their polluted, trolling minds.

I took a self imposed break from the HR, but this thread was worth the comment. I know many HR regulars view the pen state trolls as necessary. I know many liberally use the ignore button. I know there are 2 or 3 decent pen state posters--not involved in this thread, by the way. I've heard from many HR regulars that the pen state crowd of posting trolls add so much perspective to the sport and our site. But come on. 40-50% of this thread is composed of pen state trolls and troll apologists. Enough is enough. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Stand up to these trolls in every thread.

Or leave it all to the trolls, like I did. Come back in a month or so and see it for what it is.

(At least MSU158 and the other HR regulars in this particular thread have the balls to take on these Sandusky like trolls. Keep up the good fight; it doesn't go unnoticed.)
I wouldn't include MSU158. You must not comprehend alot of his posts or your a friend of his. Controversy seems to follow him around. Just my opinion though.
 
I was asked to let this die. I have done my best to do so. You personally pointed out your dislike for me and wanted this post to die. Then, let it die.
 
I was asked to let this die. I have done my best to do so. You personally pointed out your dislike for me and wanted this post to die. Then, let it die.
you tried your best... but you had to just post 1 more time right.? Defensiveness and sensitivity go hand in hand quite often..
 
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