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How will Lia Thomas do at Swimming Nationals?

Why would we need new pronouns for someone who identifies as a woman? I will agree that new pronouns might make it easier for non binary people, but that's not the case for Lia.
I don’t think either pronoun describes Lia in a flattering way.
 
I feel bad for the first place non-transitioned female who came in “Second place.” I guess that’s just the feminist in me.

I believe women should have the right to pursue athletic feats without competing against former men.

Second place is always disappointing, but Lia or the rest of the field wouldn't have beat Katie Ledecky in 2017. Katie's time was 4:24.06. They also wouldn't have beaten Leah Smith who holds the pool record with 4:30.81. Did you feel bad for the other competitors those years?
 
Second place is always disappointing, but Lia or the rest of the field wouldn't have beat Katie Ledecky in 2017. Katie's time was 4:24.06. They also wouldn't have beaten Leah Smith who holds the pool record with 4:30.81. Did you feel bad for the other competitors those years?
You accusing Ledecky of using PEDs?
 
Second place is always disappointing, but Lia or the rest of the field wouldn't have beat Katie Ledecky in 2017. Katie's time was 4:24.06. They also wouldn't have beaten Leah Smith who holds the pool record with 4:30.81. Did you feel bad for the other competitors those years?

Did those swimmers lose to former men?

Apples and oranges.
 
Once in a generation talent in Ledecky. Not an average ****ing dude with his junk cut off
Well in 2016 Leah Smith set the pool record with a time of 4:30.81 3/17/2016. Lia's time was 4:33.24 she would have been beaten in 2016 and 2017 so I guess there might be more than one "once in a generation cis gender woman" that could beat her.
 
Well in 2016 Leah Smith set the pool record with a time of 4:30.81 3/17/2016. Lia's time was 4:33.24 she would have been beaten in 2016 and 2017 so I guess there might be more than one "once in a generation cis gender woman" that could beat her.
The point is, the chick with a dick(I’m assuming it’s been removed) has no business competing against women, then to beat the real women, should make this obvious
 
Second place is always disappointing, but Lia or the rest of the field wouldn't have beat Katie Ledecky in 2017. Katie's time was 4:24.06. They also wouldn't have beaten Leah Smith who holds the pool record with 4:30.81. Did you feel bad for the other competitors those years?
Weird take, and you keep doubling and tripling down on it.
 
You guys have fun being upset about a women's swimming event. I can see you are just here to express your disgust with Lia Thomas, a person that followed the rules set by the NCAA and won one final. Enjoy patting yourselves on the back for one upping each other insulting a person you never met. Seems to be really satisfying for all of you.
 
Second place is always disappointing, but Lia or the rest of the field wouldn't have beat Katie Ledecky in 2017. Katie's time was 4:24.06. They also wouldn't have beaten Leah Smith who holds the pool record with 4:30.81. Did you feel bad for the other competitors those years?
The mental gymnastics going on here is almost impressive.

Almost.

JFC
 
That's exactly what I believe. Lia Thomas is competing according to NCAA rules most of which have been in place since 2011. She is not cheating. She didn't change her sex so she could dominate Women's Swimming. If people are angry with the rules then take it up with the NCAA, but calling Lia he or it is just being vindictive.
None of that matters to me. Good for her. Win em all. I only post these or comment on them to rebut the insane notion a few posters have here that Lia Thomas had no advantage today because of her former gender. It’s ludicrous.
 
The idea that we should make trans leagues is just ridiculous. How many trans swimmers do you think there are in American Collegiate Athletics? In all of national sports, there are (That we know of) 50 trans women across all sports in US Collegiate Athletics. A "trans" league simply doesn't work as the numbers just don't make sense. So every now and then a trans woman will rise to the top and people will get outraged. But all in all, it's an extremely low number.
 
The idea that we should make trans leagues is just ridiculous. How many trans swimmers do you think there are in American Collegiate Athletics? In all of national sports, there are (That we know of) 50 trans women across all sports in US Collegiate Athletics. A "trans" league simply doesn't work as the numbers just don't make sense. So every now and then a trans woman will rise to the top and people will get outraged. But all in all, it's an extremely low number.
I think the easiest solution is have EVERONE compete against each other and then recognize the best biological male biological female and f-m and m-f athletes. It's all based off time anyway.






*I dont actually give a shit as long as they are not boxing or doing MMA.
 
Also, I don’t believe Lia should be competing against women.
As time goes we are likely going to need to address the situation as to make it fair for biological females to compete against biological females. At the current time my stance is that I don't really care as long as it isn't MMA or Boxing.
 
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That's exactly what I believe. Lia Thomas is competing according to NCAA rules most of which have been in place since 2011. She is not cheating. She didn't change her sex so she could dominate Women's Swimming. If people are angry with the rules then take it up with the NCAA, but calling Lia he or it is just being vindictive.
If she wanted to be a she to fit in better then why should she care if she wins a swimming competition in a males body? She should realize she still has an unfair advantage and be willing to swim against her similar competition.
in my mind it isn’t much different then a women taking some sort of steroid or other cheating advantage. Those women would know they are cheating, shouldn’t lia know she’s cheating?
 
Eff it, let's stop splitting sports based on gender. Let's split it into different ranges that include a combination of weight, testosterone levels, muscle mass and any other factors that go into competing for a sport and exclude gender all together.
 
Top seed in the 200 and 500 and 10th seed in the 100. Amazing story. She went from 554th ranked swimmer last year to Number one in the nation this year. All of that hard work has paid off! Good luck, Lia!

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She will be the "Cock of the Walk"!!
 
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This issue is transformative. For the first time, possibly ever, white republican males are concerned about fairness for women. Voting, health care access, equal pay....F them, they can get back in the kitchen. Competing against transgender athletes...OMG....it's an outrage.
That narrative liberals tell themselves is a huge reason a guy like trump could win. It isn't true no matter how many time you repeat the propaganda.
 
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