How will Lia Thomas do at Swimming Nationals?

[biggreydogs]

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

You guys have fun being upset about a women's swimming event. I can see you are just here to express your disgust with Lia Thomas, a person that followed the rules set by the NCAA and won one final. Enjoy patting yourselves on the back for one upping each other insulting a person you never met. Seems to be really satisfying for all of you.

Sorry but I feel way worse for the women who lost more than any grief given on this anonymous message board to a trans swimmer. It is only beginning and the majority of people don’t want to see it enter baasketball or softball etc…

 

[Bro D]

Second place is always disappointing, but Lia or the rest of the field wouldn't have beat Katie Ledecky in 2017. Katie's time was 4:24.06. They also wouldn't have beaten Leah Smith who holds the pool record with 4:30.81. Did you feel bad for the other competitors those years?

Jfc.. lol.

 

[Tfxchawk]

What narrative is that? I am simply observing behavior of republicans. I used to be a republican and am surrounded by them.

That Republicans don't care about women? What a bullshit thing to say

 

[gohawks50]

NCAA Division I Championship Meet
2022 NCAA Division I Women's
Swimming & Diving Championships

Event 10 Women 200 Yard Freestyle
==================================================================
NCAA: N 1:39.10 3/20/2015 Missy Franklin, California
Meet: M 1:39.10 3/20/2015 Missy Franklin, California
American: A 1:39.10 3/20/2015 Missy Franklin, California
US Open: O 1:39.10 3/20/2015 Missy Franklin, California
Pool: P 1:41.35 3/16/2022 Isabel Ivey, California
Name Year School Seed Prelims
==================================================================
=== Preliminaries ===

1 Ruck, Taylor JR Stanford 1:41.89
r:+0.66 23.29 48.86 (25.57)
1:15.01 (26.15) 1:41.89 (26.88)
2 Thomas, Lia 5Y Penn 1:42.09
r:+0.76 24.58 50.87 (26.29)
1:16.53 (25.66) 1:42.09 (25.56)
3 Ivey, Isabel SR California 1:42.24
r:+0.73 23.28 48.54 (25.26)
1:15.04 (26.50) 1:42.24 (27.20)
4 Pash, Kelly JR Texas 1:42.78
r:+0.70 24.07 50.08 (26.01)
1:16.41 (26.33) 1:42.78 (26.37)
5 Transom, Laticia-Leig SR USC 1:42.93
r:+0.71 23.80 49.54 (25.74)
1:16.05 (26.51) 1:42.93 (26.88)
6 Nordmann, Lillie FR Stanford 1:43.02
r:+0.66 24.50 50.58 (26.08)
1:16.46 (25.88) 1:43.02 (26.56)
7 Gaines, Riley SR Kentucky 1:43.05
r:+0.64 24.40 50.41 (26.01)
1:16.48 (26.07) 1:43.05 (26.57)
8 Tankersley, Morgan SR Stanford 1:43.53
r:+0.70 24.71 51.06 (26.35)
1:17.25 (26.19) 1:43.53 (26.28)

 

[Tfxchawk]

NCAA Division I Championship Meet
2022 NCAA Division I Women's
Swimming & Diving Championships

Event 10 Women 200 Yard Freestyle
==================================================================
NCAA: N 1:39.10 3/20/2015 Missy Franklin, California
Meet: M 1:39.10 3/20/2015 Missy Franklin, California
American: A 1:39.10 3/20/2015 Missy Franklin, California
US Open: O 1:39.10 3/20/2015 Missy Franklin, California
Pool: P 1:41.35 3/16/2022 Isabel Ivey, California
Name Year School Seed Prelims
==================================================================
=== Preliminaries ===

1 Ruck, Taylor JR Stanford 1:41.89
r:+0.66 23.29 48.86 (25.57)
1:15.01 (26.15) 1:41.89 (26.88)
2 Thomas, Lia 5Y Penn 1:42.09
r:+0.76 24.58 50.87 (26.29)
1:16.53 (25.66) 1:42.09 (25.56)
3 Ivey, Isabel SR California 1:42.24
r:+0.73 23.28 48.54 (25.26)
1:15.04 (26.50) 1:42.24 (27.20)
4 Pash, Kelly JR Texas 1:42.78
r:+0.70 24.07 50.08 (26.01)
1:16.41 (26.33) 1:42.78 (26.37)
5 Transom, Laticia-Leig SR USC 1:42.93
r:+0.71 23.80 49.54 (25.74)
1:16.05 (26.51) 1:42.93 (26.88)
6 Nordmann, Lillie FR Stanford 1:43.02
r:+0.66 24.50 50.58 (26.08)
1:16.46 (25.88) 1:43.02 (26.56)
7 Gaines, Riley SR Kentucky 1:43.05
r:+0.64 24.40 50.41 (26.01)
1:16.48 (26.07) 1:43.05 (26.57)
8 Tankersley, Morgan SR Stanford 1:43.53
r:+0.70 24.71 51.06 (26.35)
1:17.25 (26.19) 1:43.53 (26.28)

What the womans time that missed the cut?

 

[gohawks50]

What the womans time that missed the cut?

Meet Results: 2022 NCAA DI Women's Swimming & Diving

 

[Moral]

Wonder if they are related to Frank or Isaiah Thomas.

 

[Bro D]

Wonder if they are related to Frank or Isaiah Thomas.

He's probably got a deeper voice

 

[biggreydogs]

Sorry but I feel way worse for the women who lost more than any grief given on this anonymous message board to a trans swimmer. It is only beginning and the majority of people don’t want to see it enter baasketball or softball etc…

 

[Chuck C]

Wonder if they are related to Frank or Isaiah Thomas.

Only from the waist down.

I’ll see myself out..

 

[globalhawk]

That narrative liberals tell themselves is a huge reason a guy like trump could win. It isn't true no matter how many time you repeat the propaganda.

Honestly, what percentage of Americans do you think believe it is okay for Lia to swim as a female in competition?

 

[Moral]

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This is why I prefer college volleyball.

 

[NCHawk5]

This is why I prefer college volleyball.

Idk 2 has some nice legs. Better question is who is the woman tweeting. I believe we need pics of her too.

 

[Moral]

Idk 2 has some nice legs. Better question is who is the woman tweeting. I believe we need pics of her too.

 

[NCHawk5]

I am a fan of whatever sport she’s into!

 

[gohawks50]

Maybe cis gender women can win against transgender women.

NCAA Division I Championship Meet
2022 NCAA Division I Women's
Swimming & Diving Championships

Event 10 Women 200 Yard Freestyle
=========================================================================
NCAA: N 1:39.10 3/20/2015 Missy Franklin, California
Meet: M 1:39.10 3/20/2015 Missy Franklin, California
American: A 1:39.10 3/20/2015 Missy Franklin, California
US Open: O 1:39.10 3/20/2015 Missy Franklin, California
Pool: P 1:41.35 3/16/2022 Isabel Ivey, California
Name Year School Prelims Finals Points
=========================================================================
=== Championship Final ===

1 Ruck, Taylor JR Stanford 1:41.89 1:41.12P 20
r:+0.66 23.23 48.83 (25.60)
1:14.69 (25.86) 1:41.12 (26.43)
2 Ivey, Isabel SR California 1:42.24 1:41.59 17
r:+0.70 23.51 49.05 (25.54)
1:15.02 (25.97) 1:41.59 (26.57)
3 Pash, Kelly JR Texas 1:42.78 1:42.38 16
r:+0.68 23.92 49.76 (25.84)
1:15.73 (25.97) 1:42.38 (26.65)
4 Nordmann, Lillie FR Stanford 1:43.02 1:42.63 15
r:+0.64 24.10 50.20 (26.10)
1:16.36 (26.16) 1:42.63 (26.27)
5 Thomas, Lia 5Y Penn 1:42.09 1:43.40 13.5
r:+0.75 24.34 50.34 (26.00)
1:16.76 (26.42) 1:43.40 (26.64)
5 Gaines, Riley SR Kentucky 1:43.05 1:43.40 13.5
r:+0.65 24.04 49.77 (25.73)
1:16.03 (26.26) 1:43.40 (27.37)
7 Transom, Laticia-Leig SR USC 1:42.93 1:43.49 12
r:+0.72 23.84 49.60 (25.76)
1:16.18 (26.58) 1:43.49 (27.31)
8 Tankersley, Morgan SR Stanford 1:43.53 1:43.78 11
r:+0.67 24.61 50.75 (26.14)
1:17.23 (26.48) 1:43.78 (26.55)

 

[Tfxchawk]

Honestly, what percentage of Americans do you think believe it is okay for Lia to swim as a female in competition?

Very very few.

 

[globalhawk]

Very very few.

Exactly. That's (an example of) why cable news fringe politics is killing our country.

 

[Tfxchawk]

Exactly. That's (an example of) why cable news fringe politics is killing our country.

It isn't cable news that let her swim. It was people acting as if they answer to no one. Look at the hysteria against states like Iowa that are stopping it now

 

[globalhawk]

It isn't cable news that let her swim. It was people acting as if they answer to no one. Look at the hysteria against states like Iowa that are stopping it now

What people? I understand and agree with biologicals only. I am saying most people agree but media makes it appear that it a divided issue.

 

[Thunderlips71]

Why is everyone making such a fuss about this ugly chick? She looks like a dude 🤢

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

You guys have fun being upset about a women's swimming event. I can see you are just here to express your disgust with Lia Thomas, a person that followed the rules set by the NCAA and won one final. Enjoy patting yourselves on the back for one upping each other insulting a person you never met. Seems to be really satisfying for all of you.

Another trans comes out against this injustice. Care to criticize Blaire?

 

[stillh8unlv]

Another trans comes out against this injustice. Care to criticize Blaire?

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Chappelle said it best...."the T's are making the trip take longer"

 

[gohawks50]

Another trans comes out against this injustice. Care to criticize Blaire?

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I didn't criticize anyone for thinking it is unfair for transgender females to compete against cis gender females. I objected to posters saying Lia was cheating even though she is competing according to the rules set by the NCAA. I also criticized posters for purposely using the pronouns he or it.

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

I didn't criticize anyone for thinking it is unfair for transgender females to compete against cis gender females. I objected to posters saying Lia was cheating even though she is competing according to the rules set by the NCAA. I also criticized posters for purposely using the pronouns he or it.

The whole point of this thread is that it is unfair and rules should be made to not let it happen. Like the law in Iowa. Swimming this time, basketball or softball is next…

 

[gohawks50]

The whole point of this thread is that it is unfair and rules should be made to not let it happen. Like the law in Iowa. Swimming this time, basketball or softball is next…

How do these posts contribute to that discussion?

She's gonna be balls.

“Him”

He will obviously cheat to win

He is ****ing man only idiots give him women status he has mental issues but the far left makes him a hero

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

I didn't criticize anyone for thinking it is unfair for transgender females to compete against cis gender females. I objected to posters saying Lia was cheating even though she is competing according to the rules set by the NCAA. I also criticized posters for purposely using the pronouns he or it.

That’s fair. I see your point.

Tangent question for you. Do you think it is right to force other humans to use preferred pronouns (by law for example) and why?

 

[gohawks50]

That’s fair. I see your point.

Tangent question for you. Do you think it is right to force other humans to use preferred pronouns (by law for example) and why?

No, I don't think there should be a law to force people to use preferred pronouns. I think it's common curtesy to respect the feelings of others. I often get angry and disagree with posters on this board, but I make it a point to not call anyone names unless it's a joke and I include an emoji. I really believe in trying to live by the "golden rule."

 

[hydro2.0]

How do these posts contribute to that discussion?

m

That’s rich coming from a poster who justifies “Leah’s” actions

 

[FAUlty Gator]

This issue is transformative. For the first time, possibly ever, white republican males are concerned about fairness for women. Voting, health care access, equal pay....F them, they can get back in the kitchen. Competing against transgender athletes...OMG....it's an outrage.

So...Dems are now anti-fairness for women?

I didn't criticize anyone for thinking it is unfair for transgender females to compete against cis gender females. I objected to posters saying Lia was cheating even though she is competing according to the rules set by the NCAA. I also criticized posters for purposely using the pronouns he or it.

And just like the others, you’re dodging the question about whether or not you believe she had an advantage due to her going through puberty as a male.

At least be honest and let us know if you’re reasonable or crazy like the rest who refuse to admit it.

 

[gohawks50]

m

That’s rich coming from a poster who justifies “Leah’s” actions

What actions has Lia taken that need to be justified? She identified as a woman and did began hormone treatment in 2019. Because of Covid this is the first year she has competed as a woman. That's 3 years of treatment compared to the 1 required by the NCAA. She is following all the NCAA rules. Her actions don't need justification. Your beef should be with the NCAA if you have a problem with Lia swimming, she is following the rules.

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

How do these posts contribute to that discussion?

They don’t. You have a point there.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

What actions has Lia taken that need to be justified? She identified as a woman and did began hormone treatment in 2019. Because of Covid this is the first year she has competed as a woman. That's 3 years of treatment compared to the 1 required by the NCAA. She is following all the NCAA rules. Her actions don't need justification. Your beef should be with the NCAA if you have a problem with Lia swimming, she is following the rules.

And she has a huge advantage due to recently being a male, correct?

 

[gohawks50]

And she has a huge advantage due to recently being a male, correct?

Lia has the advantage of having broader shoulders, larger lungs, and being taller from going through male puberty. There are definitely differences between transgender and cis gender females that could provide an advantage in athletics. The questions we need to answer are: how often do transgender females compete in athletics, is their inclusion a significant threat to cis gender females being able to compete now and in the future, and if transgender females are not allowed to compete with cis gender females how and where do we give them the opportunity to compete. The Olympics have rules allowing transgender athletes to compete so athletes like swimmers will have to compete with them at the highest level of their sport.

 

[hydro2.0]

What actions has Lia taken that need to be justified? She identified as a woman and did began hormone treatment in 2019. Because of Covid this is the first year she has competed as a woman. That's 3 years of treatment compared to the 1 required by the NCAA. She is following all the NCAA rules. Her actions don't need justification. Your beef should be with the NCAA if you have a problem with Lia swimming, she is following the rules.

Lia is a man. You’d think she would respect women but instead tramples over them with this “swimming stunt”

 

[QChawks]

I’m going to call myself a woman and absolutely own the WNBA

 

[HawkMachine]

 

[Tfxchawk]

What actions has Lia taken that need to be justified? She identified as a woman and did began hormone treatment in 2019. Because of Covid this is the first year she has competed as a woman. That's 3 years of treatment compared to the 1 required by the NCAA. She is following all the NCAA rules. Her actions don't need justification. Your beef should be with the NCAA if you have a problem with Lia swimming, she is following the rules.

Having the power to do something doesn't give you the right. Men are taught this throughout their life for very serious reasons

Lia is cheating and knows it. Lia just feels entitled and has been encouraged to feel entitled.

As for your earlier question on which people? You are being dishonest. You know which people are pushing this and are lying.

 

[gohawks50]

NCAA Division I Championship Meet
2022 NCAA Division I Women's
Swimming & Diving Championships

Event 17 Women 100 Yard Freestyle
==================================================================
NCAA: N 45.56 3/18/2017 Simone Manuel, Stanford
Meet: M 45.56 3/17/2017 Simone Manuel, Stanford
American: A 45.56 3/18/2017 Simone Manuel, Stanford
US Open: O 45.56 3/18/2017 Simone Manuel, Stanford
Pool: P 46.70 3/19/2016 Olivia Smoliga, Georgia
Name Year School Seed Prelims
==================================================================
=== Preliminaries ===

1 Walsh, Gretchen FR Virginia 46.78
r:+0.74 22.23 46.78 (24.55)
2 Berkoff, Katharine JR NCSU 46.89
r:+0.68 22.82 46.89 (24.07)
3 Scott, Morgan SR Alabama 47.27
r:+0.65 22.70 47.27 (24.57)
4 Thomas, Lia 5Y Penn 47.37
r:+0.74 23.11 47.37 (24.26)
5 Albiero, Gabi SO Louisville 47.45
r:+0.60 22.77 47.45 (24.68)
6 Countie, Grace SR UNC 47.50
r:+0.71 22.68 47.50 (24.82)
7 Dupre, Cora JR Alabama 47.51
r:+0.59 22.72 47.51 (24.79)
8 Henig, Iszac JR Yale 47.55
r:+0.64 22.88 47.55 (24.67)
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9 Ivey, Isabel SR California 47.61
r:+0.69 22.71 47.61 (24.90)
10 MacNeil, Maggie SR Michigan 47.77
r:+0.63 22.99 47.77 (24.78)